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Title: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: lotus on May 12, 2021, 03:14:06 PM
It`s ready and can be ordered in the shop :D :D :D
And thanks for the nice price  and all the work to make this happen ;)
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: Ghosttrain on May 12, 2021, 04:20:00 PM
Cheers lotus i have just ordered my copy.. 8)..
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: Bever on May 13, 2021, 10:52:57 AM
Would be nice if it were available at gigs to prevent silly customs charges. It will cost 2-3 time the price of the DVD to get it shipped to Belgium...
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: Tarsier on May 13, 2021, 12:33:29 PM
Ordered mine yesterday... 8) Threw into the shopping basket few other items also, the postage doesn't feel so bad then...friend's birthday coming, valid reason :)
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: Willard on May 13, 2021, 02:27:21 PM
I took the hit on postage, but hardly prohibitive given the relatively low cost of the dvd set itself (well done and much appreciated, team NMA). Total cost ~$30 to the USA.

Looking forward to this as always with NMA related releases!
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: Guillaume on May 14, 2021, 10:14:48 AM
The nice people of the great Steve Hoffman forum want to know if this new dvd has PCM Stereo sound or a 5.1 mix and i don't know what to answer to them!:

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/new-model-army-my-new-favorite-band-literally-based-on-the-first-29-min-of-them-ive-ever-heard.869830/page-14
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: Viv Savage on May 14, 2021, 12:04:47 PM
Due to the size of video files due to the length of the sets the sound is AC3.
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: cthulhu on May 14, 2021, 03:27:39 PM
Just ordered a copy. When you regard the good price of the dvd itself, then the postage with almost half the price extra seems and is big, but i'm totally fine with paying 15 pounds for this whole thing.

@Bever
2-3 times the whole price for shipping it to belgium would be really too much. If Willard is paying 30$ for shipping it to USA. Are you sure?
But anyway.. it would be great to have the option to buy it at gigs..!!!
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: lotus on May 14, 2021, 07:00:27 PM
Just ordered a copy. When you regard the good price of the dvd itself, then the postage with almost half the price extra seems and is big, but i'm totally fine with paying 15 pounds for this whole thing.

5 pounds for shipping - are you shure? I`ve ordered the dvds and a sticker - 10.30 pounds for shipping - so 5.30 more for a simple sticker?

But the shop status says it is shipped and perhaps it is here next week  :)
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: cthulhu on May 14, 2021, 07:31:05 PM
I'm pretty sure... 8) I think you missed the option to choose which package&postage you want. There are 3 types and i chose one without tracking for 4.80pounds. The other options are with tracking and also tracking+insurance, when i remember correctly.
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: lotus on May 14, 2021, 08:32:01 PM
Thanks, that might be my fault :(
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: flodhaest on May 14, 2021, 09:53:50 PM
First time ordering after Brexit - am I right in assuming that there is no customs on the DVD due to the price (incl. shipping) being under 22€?
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: Bever on May 15, 2021, 09:02:38 AM
Just ordered a copy. When you regard the good price of the dvd itself, then the postage with almost half the price extra seems and is big, but i'm totally fine with paying 15 pounds for this whole thing.

@Bever
2-3 times the whole price for shipping it to belgium would be really too much. If Willard is paying 30$ for shipping it to USA. Are you sure?
But anyway.. it would be great to have the option to buy it at gigs..!!!

It depends, and is not very clear. I think as long as the parcel is less than €22, there will be no customs formalities, which would be the case here. As soon as Belgian Post needs to handle customs, there is a forfait of €24 just for custom formalities, and then added VAT. (https://www.bpost.be/en/receive-parcel/customs)

So say I'd want to buy this (which is the case):
https://shop.newmodelarmy.org/music/physical/vinyl/product/254-vengeance-%E2%80%93-the-whole-story-vinyl-limited-edition

Shipping included:
ubtotal   £ 21.00
Shipping   £ 11.75
VAT   £ 3.50
Total   £ 32.75

Equals €38, which means €24 handling and 21% VAT. So the mail woman will ring my doorbell requesting €24+€7,98, or €31,98 before I receive my parcel.

So going from a €25 record, I end up with a total bill of €69,98. Now I'd really like to order that record, but ouch.

So looking into it, this DVD is probably different, as it's cheaper than €22.

But I read things are changing again on July 1st as well. It will then depend on whether New Model Army store is a Registered Webshop: https://www.bpost.be/en/shopping-outside-eu

If it's not, this DVD can cost up to €27, which again is 2-3 the price.

In summary: it's such a cluster**** now after Brexit, and very unclear. And while I have the deepest respect for my mail woman, having to shed out €30+ in customs never is a nice surprise.
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: cthulhu on May 15, 2021, 11:38:16 AM
Oh dear! And i really don't get this and understand it.

So, if i order something like the heavy Vinyl you want, i go to the shop and have to have that p&p for 11.75.
With the record that would be 32.75.
And that includes the VAT of the price for the shop, which is 3.50.

So it all makes the package you receive worth more than the 22€
Now i do get and understand that because of that you have to add those 24€ customs fees. But what i don't get is that there is also another VAT added to this.

But anyway, if the fees are even higher than the original price of the good it really is just "ouch" like you said.
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: Bever on May 15, 2021, 03:38:55 PM
But what i don't get is that there is also another VAT added to this.

Yeah. it's the import VAT: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/individuals/buying-goods-services-online-personal-use/buying-goods/buying-goods-online-coming-from-a-noneu-union-country_en#vat

Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: cthulhu on May 17, 2021, 09:53:56 AM
As i understand it in germany, if you order something about 22€ worth, you will have to add only a VAT of 19%.
If its higher than 150€ there will be also an added customs duty. And then you would have to get it from the customs directly, it won't be delivered to your home.
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: lotus on May 18, 2021, 01:22:58 PM
I hope, I`m not wrong:
If the VAT (19%) is < 5 €, you don`t have to pay it
So: if  1 pound is 1,16 €, the bill is < = 22,63 pound = 26,65 € and 19% VAT is 4,99 € - fine
but if 1 pound is 1,18 € -not so fine (if the bill is more than 22,24 pound)

Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: cthulhu on May 18, 2021, 04:39:50 PM
Well, i still think that for the customs it's only about the price of the item being shipped. Without package and postage. So in this case, the 40th anniversary DVD, it would only be 11,89€ or 10 pounds.
But i could be wrong..

Let's see what happens. Looking forward to see this again and being able to put this physically in my collection. I had a blast watching it and also some not so good memorys attached to the moment then...so it will be a very good item for my archive.

Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: Willard on May 25, 2021, 03:32:35 PM
I hope you all figure out the finances and shipping and whatnot.  Mine arrived to the USA on Saturday last. 

Great work and thanks to the Shop and the Band!
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: joerginger on May 29, 2021, 08:30:30 AM
Will there be a BluRay version in the future? Or a download version? I'm currently replacing all my DVDs with BR versions wherever possible, so I'd prefer not to buy a DVD.
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: Guillaume on May 29, 2021, 09:06:01 AM
Will there be a BluRay version in the future? Or a download version? I'm currently replacing all my DVDs with BR versions wherever possible, so I'd prefer not to buy a DVD.

Blu Ray is King!  8)

There is a blu ray for the "Between dog and wolf" documentary, so maybe, who knows...
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: cthulhu on May 29, 2021, 02:05:20 PM
Yep, Blu Ray rulez!! 8) But i don't think this will be updated to Blu. It seems to be a very limited production, more for the collectors and i think when this sells out, that'll be it.

Mine arrived today and i just threw it in and it looks very good, sounds really great and image and sound are better fitting together than the stream was for me. Especially the moments with visuals and layers of images mixed together. That always was out of sync for me when the  live stream was running. So it is great to have, totally looking forward to watch this later...

It was held and processed by the customs, i could see that by the sticker on the package, but i didn't have to pay an extra fee.
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: Viv Savage on May 30, 2021, 10:21:22 AM
Part of the reason it was delayed was the issued with the syncing, which is why it had to be re-edited 8)
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: lotus on May 30, 2021, 04:48:04 PM
Mine arrived today ....
It was held and processed by the customs, i could see that by the sticker on the package, but i didn't have to pay an extra fee.

Still waiting for my copy - perhaps someone working for the customs wants a nice weekend by watching and it`s here next week ?
Title: NMA's 40th anniversary DVD needs an accompanying CD...
Post by: 8 on May 30, 2021, 07:56:13 PM
Mine arrived this past Friday (the 28th) and, it's still available to view up at  themill.tv (https://live.themill.tv/selectTickets.php?id=NMA40TH), which is terrific!  I really, really hope you (=NMA) decide to release a CD version of the 40th live-streamed gig.  I can't be the only one who wants to blare it on the stereo, in the car, outdoors (and elsewhere), too.  The DVDs are selling extremely well and, CDs are (I'm assuming) less expensive to produce, no?  So, what or where's the obstacle, hurdle?  ???

The 40th anniversary DVD warrants, deserves and needs an accompanying CD.  Not sure why you good folks are surprised the DVDs are selling so well.  The 40th anniversary live-stream show was that great!!  I'm certainly in for a few CD copies if you guys decide to go ahead and make 'em.  You won't even have to get fancy with 'em.  Just give us somethin' physical, quick 'n legit... y'know?  Though, please... no 'download-only' option.  'C'mon.  C'mon'.  8)
Title: Re: 40th anniversaryDVD
Post by: Tarsier on June 08, 2021, 08:11:32 PM
I mean… Holy crap… Seriously, I cannot remember it sounding this good and so damn tight…

But… Ever since Ceri joined the band, I’ve been thinking that during gigs it’d be beneficial to conceal him, like, behind a wall or a curtain or whatever… then I’d be able to concentrate more on music instead of… well, he’s extremely pleasing to look at… So not exactly a complaint, rather a compliment to Mr. Monger  ;D

I’m so happy I ordered this DVD (which also did not get caught in customs post by the way so that’s a bonus)… There’s no stress and no problems with the wifi signal, no beer-blurry brain, no angry neighbours banging the wall… 10/10 would recommend ;D
Title: Re: NMA's 40th anniversary DVD needs an accompanying CD...
Post by: Guillaume on June 09, 2021, 06:46:24 AM
The 40th anniversary DVD warrants, deserves and needs an accompanying CD.  Not sure why you good folks are surprised the DVDs are selling so well.  The 40th anniversary live-stream show was that great!!  I'm certainly in for a few CD copies if you guys decide to go ahead and make 'em.  You won't even have to get fancy with 'em.  Just give us somethin' physical, quick 'n legit... y'know?  Though, please... no 'download-only' option.  'C'mon.  C'mon'.  8)

A CD release...great idea!  8)