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General Category => New Model Army => Topic started by: grahamRVA on August 10, 2012, 01:21:46 AM

Title: "...& Nobody Else" Question
Post by: grahamRVA on August 10, 2012, 01:21:46 AM

So in his introduction to "Vengeance" on the "...& Nobody Else" album, Justin dedicates the song to the crowd "especially after what happened last week in Leipzig".  I was always kinda curious what that referred to.  Anybody know?

Title: Re: "...& Nobody Else" Question
Post by: lupus225 on August 10, 2012, 06:43:10 AM

Maybe to this:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todesopfer_rechtsextremer_Gewalt_in_Deutschland#Ab_1998

1998 - Der portugiesische Zimmermann Nuno Lourenco, dessen Alter nicht bekannt ist, wurde im Juli von acht Neonaziskinheads zwischen 18 und 20 Jahren in Leipzig zusammengeschlagen. Er starb am 29. Dezember in seiner Heimat Portugal an seinen Verletzungen.

Title: Re: "...& Nobody Else" Question
Post by: ChristianS on August 10, 2012, 11:31:18 AM

Not sure what Lupus posted, as I don't speak a word of German! - But found this?

http://articles.latimes.com/1998/may/03/news/mn-45811

Title: Re: "...& Nobody Else" Question
Post by: sarah on August 10, 2012, 01:10:44 PM

I always wondered that! Considered trying to do the computer translation thingy but that's an awful lot to translate so gave up. The LA times link looks likely. Cheers x

Title: Re: "...& Nobody Else" Question
Post by: lotus on August 10, 2012, 03:54:31 PM

1998 - The carpenter Nuno Zimmermann (from portugal), age unknown, was beaten hard in july by 8 neonazyskinheads (aged 18 -20) in Leipzig. He died 29.12.1998 in his homeland because of this hurts

(not a perfect translation)

Title: Re: "...& Nobody Else" Question
Post by: grahamRVA on August 12, 2012, 02:36:32 AM

Goddamn that's horrible.  But certainly a good reminder (or possibly the shooting at the Sikh temple here last week) of why songs like "Vengeance" are as relevant now as when they were written.