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Title: NMA drummers
Post by: Shush on May 31, 2013, 09:07:26 AM
......  Dog and Wolf” the album is filled with multi-layered drums and atmospheric musical textures while  ......

As a kid in the 198s, I liked Adam and the Ants, and loved the sound given by using two drum kits.

Much is said of the amazing base lines in NMA"S early days , and rightly so. It gave a very distinct sound to Vengeance. But also on the Vengeance LP, some amazing drum work by Robert Heaton, god bless him. The drum work sounds very raw and aggressive, particularly on Sex, the dark angel, and the haunting end of Spirit of the Falklands with the machine gun sounding fade out. Inheritance stands out also as a drumming classic, and later the fast drum beat in Gigabyte Wars.So, a great legacy of NMA drum sound also.

I like Michael Dean"s drumming, and I am really looking forward to see what he has come up with for the new album with "multi-layered" drums. Heard it live twice now, and already love March in September with its varied drum beat. More like that will be most welcome.  :)
Title: Re: NMA drummers
Post by: Toronto Popular Front on May 31, 2013, 12:25:39 PM
that's one thing that has always got me about about robert heatons drumming, it was always more than just someone banging out a rhythm for the rest of the band to play along to, they seemed to be as much apart of the song as the guitars etc m dean doesnt do too bad either ;)
Title: Re: NMA drummers
Post by: Fatalist on June 01, 2013, 01:54:28 PM
too right, it set the tone for the years to follow and no wonder Justin always writes with drummers and starts with the beat.

have just heard a recording of the recent Roadmenders gig, and the new songs sound sensational live through a decent sound system, can't wait for the new album to be released
Title: Re: NMA drummers
Post by: Wessexy Witch on June 01, 2013, 06:19:59 PM


As a kid in the 198s, I liked Adam and the Ants, and loved the sound given by using two drum kits.




I still do !

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Title: Re: NMA drummers
Post by: Barty on June 02, 2013, 01:01:12 PM
Me too an' all  ;) As much as I loved the Terry Lee / Merrick double drums, there's nothing like Dave Barbarossa's stixwork on Dirk Wears White Sox....

As for NMA's percussion, Rob's and Michael's work has always been outstanding - with Stuart's/Moose's/Nelson's/Ceri's basswork complimenting it perfectly. Pure drum and bass at its finest.

I love Ceri's additional percussion live on Red Earth and Flying Through the Smoke, not to mention his amazing talent with the bodhran on Seven Times. Michaels' drum line on March in September is also infectious - I really can't wait for Between Dog and Wolf.....and the tour!

Title: Re: NMA drummers
Post by: Stoney on June 02, 2013, 02:40:56 PM
Rob's drumming was always highlighted. He is one a an all too rare breed of drummers who plsay THE SONG not the back beat. Most of my favourite bands have drummers in that vein. Chris Kontos played out of his skin on Machine Head's Burn My Eyes album, Danny Schuler has been doin the same thing with Biohazard for years. Igor Cavalera aswell, him and Rob had a mutual appreciation society goin' pretty much. Brann Dailor in Mastodon is doin' some unbelievable stuff aswell, snare rolls that are jaw dropping in technicality and speed!
I know Rob was a huge fan of Frank Beard in ZZ Top. A totally over looked, but great understated player.
Title: Re: NMA drummers
Post by: Willard on June 04, 2013, 03:14:20 PM
I think the best thing to come out of the EMI remasters is Rob's drumming on Ghost of Cain.  Fantastic stuff!  I'm also a huge fan of the drumming on White Coats.  I think Michael does that part justice and more on the 30th Anniversary concert recordings.
Title: Re: NMA drummers
Post by: Shush on September 26, 2014, 09:33:51 PM
On the new album, absolutely love Michael Dean's drum work at the beginning of "Devils bargain" leading into the song, the beat admirably picked up by Dean White's key board.  Then onto the live album, that brilliant drum entrance to "March in September", again DWs keyboard moving in making a great start into the song. "appy dayz  :)
Title: Re: NMA drummers
Post by: Guillaume on September 26, 2014, 09:40:32 PM
On the new album, absolutely love Michael Dean's drum work at the beginning of "Devils bargain" leading into the song, the beat admirably picked up by Dean White's key board.  Then onto the live album, that brilliant drum entrance to "March in September", again DWs keyboard moving in making a great start into the song. "appy dayz  :)

Michael and Dean make a good duo, aren't they?
Dean's keyboard is often low key but effective...i love "devil's bargain"...the bridge near the end of the song is great (i like when Justin sings "There's a dusty photograph i always recall"...after the bit)
Title: Re: NMA drummers
Post by: Master Ray on September 26, 2014, 10:49:56 PM
Sorry, couldn't resist...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO-fYwEYOXY

 ;D
Title: Re: NMA drummers
Post by: Shush on September 26, 2014, 10:55:39 PM
Didn't they support , Spinal Tap ?
Title: Re: NMA drummers
Post by: Master Ray on September 26, 2014, 11:04:29 PM
'I've never had to move my arm up and down so much in my life!'

'Now, is that true, Colin..?'

 ;D

I don't think BN supported ST, but they deffo opened up at Donington in the mid-80's....
Title: Re: NMA drummers
Post by: Shush on September 26, 2014, 11:11:31 PM
D you remember who was the manager of Spinal Tap ??
Title: Re: NMA drummers
Post by: Master Ray on September 26, 2014, 11:32:57 PM
D you remember who was the manager of Spinal Tap ??

Ian Faith...

Title: Re: NMA drummers
Post by: Shush on September 26, 2014, 11:36:48 PM
No, it was

Viv Savage
Title: Re: NMA drummers
Post by: Shush on September 27, 2014, 12:54:34 AM
D you remember who was the manager of Spinal Tap ??

Ian Faith...

Actually, thinking about it, I think you are right. Viv Savage was the keyboard player  ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQrLkoedX-0
Title: Re: NMA drummers
Post by: Master Ray on September 27, 2014, 06:17:22 PM
D you remember who was the manager of Spinal Tap ??

Ian Faith...

Actually, thinking about it, I think you are right. Viv Savage was the keyboard player  ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQrLkoedX-0

 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Don't **** with me when it comes to movie references, boy.  Don't even try.  Ask Dan when you see him next.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoEz16sxaGQ

 ;)
Title: Re: NMA drummers
Post by: Guillaume on March 12, 2019, 08:36:36 PM
Many positive threads about NMA on this forum and among others some enthusiastic lines about Rob Heaton:

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/who-are-your-favorite-drummers-and-why.731934/page-5

My top five (drummers) in order:

Alex Van Halen (Van Halen) - terribly underrated due to being overshadowed by this brother. Alex is a tremendous musician with his own signature sound. I'm always impressed with what I hear him lay down.
Robert Heaton (New Model Army) - One of the most overlooked drummers in rock. Could play like Bonham or anyone else. An absolute workhorse who could pound out a beat with tremendous force and vary it up to keep things interesting.
Sean Kinney (Alice In Chains) - A drummer with a bit of 'swing' to his playing. He's always tasteful and adds interesting emphasis with his snare in just the right places.
Brian Downey (Thin Lizzy) - Rock solid and such an important part of the band's sound. He's forgotten about because he's so solid, but he can play a variety of styles and play them well.
John Stanier (Helmet) - Math-y type of player who with his snare has his own sound as well. He pulls off difficult rhythms with ease and always adds to the right elements to every song.


My aunt turned me onto this band a couple years ago, and they've turned out to be one of those rare ones that grows on you steadily over time. I was ambivalent about them at first, but with each album I gain more respect for them as musicians and composers. There's a tremendous depth to their lyrics and playing, and they've created some amazingly consistent albums through the years. Not to mention they put on a damn good live show!

A cool thread about the band here:

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/new-model-army-fans.172012/