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General Category => New Model Army => Topic started by: lfran on February 24, 2014, 09:25:55 AM
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Just wondering if there are any details of when this is coming out? I'm assuming that it will be released on cd, and hoping for vinyl as well :)
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Don't know if it's mentioned at the main site news but what would be the amount of songs in it? Curious if the single contains songs which didn't end up on BDAW... Just thinking.
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I thought it was just an e-single. Like March in September. I'm not expecting an actual cd or any extra tracks except for some of those remixes maybe.
Would be happy to be wrong about this, though.
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I would love to see a vinyl release with a b-side unreleased track(s) - maybe a limited edition for Record Store Day 2014. Would be great to see the band support this :D
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Beautiful idea Blink - but I can't play vinyl anymore! Think I've still got my Pioneer turntable gathering dust somewhere minus a needle. Can you still get needles?? Shit I've got old ;D
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You can buy a new turntable for less than 80 € (that`s perhaps the price of a new needle), coverting lp to mp3 ;)
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Although I haven't bought one yet, there are plenty of not-terribly-expensive turntables with an MP3 conversion facility out there...
Personally, I'm still hoping for a physical release of 7T... hopefully with a couple of great new tracks, lets face it, some of NMA's best ever stuff has been b-sides... wow, that expression must mean nothing to the downloading kiddies nowadays...
;)
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Although I haven't bought one yet, there are plenty of not-terribly-expensive turntables with an MP3 conversion facility out there...
And I think that turntables have got more quality in their designing these days. You could even conceal or cover them inside your racks if you want to.
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with an MP3 conversion facility out there...
I'm such a luddite.... that makes me go what??? I need to get up to speed don't I? ;D
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I still have a perfectly good turn table on a Kenwood tower.
I never use it. I don't like vinyl. I thought it was greeeat when CDs came in. I remember some of the crap music centres I had in the 1980s, crackling and jumping when the needle started to blunt. Remember those players where you could stack several singles, then pull over a retaining arm, and they would drop down and play one after the other ?, but it seemed to take ages, and often dropped two at a time.
I have stacks of LPs and 7 inches of stuff that I don't have on other formats, I just don't bother with them.
Long live CD !!, although I am sure that will become obsolete soon, and all music down loaded.
I remember being excited by this -- enjoy, -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiDbkaaF_k4
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Bloomin' crikey, Shush, that's a blast from the past, I remember that ad!
I also have a mountain of vinyl... its stashed away at my mums house in a cupboard, no room for it in my tiny flat!
So many rare tracks there that I can't find on CD... but lets face it, you can find anything on the internet nowadays! Was looking at rare old Rollins Band tracks the other day and found everything I was looking for...
Still would like a CD release for 7X, though...
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Me to M/Ray, I would buy it.
Just wanted to throw a counter view into the hat. I accept some of us old farts are sentimental for vinyl, but I likes me CDs, an always have.
Remember when I started my first job, something I soon did was take out a lone to get a tower with a CD player. Then I lost mi job, but that's different story.
No one seems to miss tapes. I used them a lot in the 80s
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Regarding b sides, seems that's mostly a lost art, all around the music world. I would have liked to have asked something about this in the Q&A. I wonder if the number of songs on BDAW means that there are simply no songs left to be used as b sides. There weren't any for TIAGD or High, either. Last I can recall is the BD3 EP, also the last physical single release, wasn't it? Seems like this might be a good way to release some of the lost treasures, a la One Bullet on the BD3 EP.
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There's just something about the warmth of vinyl that I love. But yeah, I'm not a complete Luddite. I would usually buy a new album on cd and vinyl, if available. The in car turntable never really caught on, after all :)
I can even see the advantages of having your entire music collection stored on a device that can fit in your back pocket. Never did like cassettes though. I think the only pre recorded tape I ever bought was Impurity, because Marrakesh wasn't on the lp version.
Anna, if your old turntable is still in working order, there are websites that will surely have a replacement stylus for it. You just need either the stylus number, or the model number of your record player. They're usually about 15 quid though.
And I defy anyone to listen to Living In The Rose on cd, then the 12" single version, and not hear the difference in warmth and depth of sound. Pay particular attention to that wonderful guitar solo.
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Anna, this is the website I get my needles from:
http://www.stylusplus.co.uk/
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Regarding b sides, seems that's mostly a lost art, all around the music world. I would have liked to have asked something about this in the Q&A. I wonder if the number of songs on BDAW means that there are simply no songs left to be used as b sides. [...]
There was a question regarding the issue actually, but I can't remember what was the number.
They dared to answer that there`s no "lost songs" right now and another unreleased tracks -album is not in the horizont... To me it`s kinda hard to believe there wouldn`t be left-overs, because there has ALWAYS been them :). Their touring dates seem to be quite tight all the time and I wonder how they had time enough to concentrate in making of BDAW. But yeah, some interesting change is with the albums and studio working. They could not release all the material they have, or could they? It sounds a bit like "dangerous" having not any buffer songs in a storage. Just thinking...
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Personally, I think like NMA are a bit like a certain Mr Springsteen... they have so many ideas and are so proficient that not all of them fit the general concept of whatever they're working on at the time... and so they go onto the backburner, only to re-emerge in the years to come...
Springsteen released a fantastic 4CD box-set some years back called TRACKS that had about 60 tracks ranging, in time, from the early 70's to the late 90's, many of which were better than the stuff that were on the 'official' albums...
I tell this to myself in the hope of getting a follow-up to LOST SONGS or BSAAT...
???
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I'm sure they have bits and pieces started, but as was mentioned, I think Dean said there just wasn't that many songs lying around to do another Lost Songs album. I'm a fan of Joseph Arthur and he's called prolific (meaning he puts out way too much material and has a tendency to release anything, and I mean ANYTHING). I appreciate a decent editor who knows when something should remain n a box at the bottom of the pile. Having said that, the band has put out consistent releases with pretty short time frames between albums, and I'm more than happy with that.
I also think age has a way of getting in the way of writing. I'm glad Justin is at that the top of his game, but at some point, I think his lyrics might seem to pale in comparison to his earlier or current stuff, for that matter. I also think he may call it quits before that time comes. Who knows.
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Regarding b sides, seems that's mostly a lost art, all around the music world. I would have liked to have asked something about this in the Q&A. I wonder if the number of songs on BDAW means that there are simply no songs left to be used as b sides. There weren't any for TIAGD or High, either. Last I can recall is the BD3 EP, also the last physical single release, wasn't it? Seems like this might be a good way to release some of the lost treasures, a la One Bullet on the BD3 EP.
I think that in addition to b-sides where bands could be even a little more experimental with tracks that might not fit an album, I also miss the EP where you get a number of new tracks to listen too. I love CDs but miss the larger artwork of the 7" and 12". I do hope we get some new Joolz artwork for the single release.
I would have loved to have had new artwork for the March in September and Beautiful game releases ;)
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I still have a perfectly good turn table on a Kenwood tower.
I never use it. I don't like vinyl. I thought it was greeeat when CDs came in. I remember some of the crap music centres I had in the 1980s, crackling and jumping when the needle started to blunt. Remember those players where you could stack several singles, then pull over a retaining arm, and they would drop down and play one after the other ?, but it seemed to take ages, and often dropped two at a time.
I have stacks of LPs and 7 inches of stuff that I don't have on other formats, I just don't bother with them.
Long live CD !!, although I am sure that will become obsolete soon, and all music down loaded.
I remember being excited by this -- enjoy, -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiDbkaaF_k4
I actually went to Richer Sounds 2 years ago and bought another stereo system with an Ipod docking station and a turntable with a USB facility with the intention of putting all my vinyl into a digital format for my Ipod.
Never got round to it and still play vinyl from time to time, I bought both formats of BDAW but have only played the vinyl one a couple of times.
Personally I prefer vinyl and but wonder why some albums seem shorter when I listen then realise I have to get up to turn 'em over.
CD's and even more so Ipods have made us lazier :) :)
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I have an old turntable and a new one with mp3,
I use both - the old one to listen to my old vinyl - and the new one to convert old vinyl to mp3, if I can`t find that release on cd
And the artwork and booklet of a vinyl is sometimes worth buying both (cd and lp)
And I`m waiting for an brand new live gig 2014 on vinyl/cd/download of RSC some weeks later!!!!
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I have an old turntable and a new one with mp3,
I use both - the old one to listen to my old vinyl - and the new one to convert old vinyl to mp3, if I can`t find that release on cd
And the artwork and booklet of a vinyl is sometimes worth buying both (cd and lp)
And I`m waiting for an brand new live gig 2014 on vinyl/cd/download of RSC some weeks later!!!!
The Royal Shakespeare Company are putting out a live album?
;D
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Everything should be released on vinyl as well as other formats. Vinyl, played on an high quality turntable and system will out perform CD every time.
For me, in the main, CD has distracted from the listening pleasure in many ways, because of the sheer convenience of everything being on 'one side', and the thing automatically stopping if forgotten about.....We hear the music more than listen to it, as we can do many other things at the same time.....
With vinyl, we have to engage with the music, cant get distracted by other things, wander off....we have to turn it over, take it off at the end, take care of the physical item to keep it pristeen.... We have wonderful sleeves, lyric sheets, posters, photos and all manner of other things packaged with an LP, to enjoy along with the music......
Yep, ipods/phones/mp3 players alond with CD's are brilliant bits of tec, but for me, vinyl will always be king....and it does disappoint me when wonderful music is denied a vinyl release....
Just my thoughts.... :) :) :)
Brucie.