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General Category => Everything Else => Topic started by: Guillaume on July 12, 2014, 10:57:15 AM
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Are there fans (Master Ray? :D) of this director on this board?
Michael Mann is one of my very favourite directors, and probably my favourite american director...what i like in his films are his eye for incredible visuals, the sense of melancholy in his films, his well written and well acted characters, and the sensual moods he gives to his works, through the use of beautiful cinematography to the electronic soundtracks...
1981 Thief
1983 The Keep
1986 Manhunter
1992 The Last of the Mohicans
1995 Heat
1999 The Insider
2001 Ali
2004 Collateral
2006 Miami Vice
2009 Public Enemies
2014 Cyber
Here's Wiki summary about Mann's films:
Mann's films often contain one to four deadpan male protagonists who are expert in some occupation: undercover policework, high-level crime-work, warfare in colonial America, and the like. Importantly, his films often involve a tragic rather than happy ending, or they involve a combination of tragedy and happy ending, such as in Miami Vice, when of the two undercover police officers, one has his girlfriend (also an undercover officer) come out of a coma and the other tearfully separates from his romantic interest. Mann's films contain fast-paced, artful, ingenious scenes that strongly depend on powerful music, where often two opposing sides intermix, such as undercover policework and undercover drug trafficking, so that it is hard to distinguish between the two. For example, in Heat, the criminal and the police detective meet for coffee, as if old business partners. Often it is hard to distinguish between opposing sides (police vs. criminals, etc.), where the actions, dress, and mannerisms of the characters are extremely similar. Also, Mann's work often involves landscapes and modes where the heroic protagonists occupy a somewhat secret world, away from ordinary concerns (law, life and death, money, daily-life survival duties, family duties, and so on), where the secret world may or may not coincide with ordinary reality. Protagonists often find impassioned romantic interests which are severed under tragic situations near the end of the film (Last of the Mohicans, Heat, Miami Vice, Public Enemies). Overall, Mann's films mix artistry (via music, stylishness and emotional intensity) with sexuality, strong violence, humorless noir-like stoicism, and complex plot twists.
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G... Love some of mr Manns films, didn't like others, but an interesting filmmaker nonetheless...
THE KEEP is one of my fave horror movies ever... great cast and a brilliant Tangerine Dream soundtrack...
LAST OF THE MOHICANS... probably one of my top five films ever. Just perfect on every level.
MANHUNTER... far better than the remake, RED DRAGON, and personally I think that Brian Cox (no, not the scientist fella!) is way better than Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lector... BTW, you seen that HANNIBAL TV show? Worth a look...
.. and HEAT is just terrific. Possibly the best shoot-out scene ever.
After that, it gets a bit dodgy, IMO. THE INSIDER was rather dull and over-long, ALI... well, how the hell do you make a boring film about Muhammed ALi?
Worst of all is MIAMI VICE... utterly shit-awful. I remember enjoying that show in the 80's, good fun and all that... this movie had a Crockett and Tubbs who didn't seem to like each other very much and trudged their way through a dull storyline... it's like a version of The A-Team that had the five of them as dreary alcoholics who stared daggers at each other for two hours... :(
COLLATERAL and PUBLIC ENEMIES were OK, but I feel no need to watch either of those films again...
I'd love to see another good MM movie again, but I'm not holding up much hope...
:(
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I am not that interested in film-makers but "The Insider" was a damn good film.
Miami Vice was horrible though.
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Have you seen THIEF Master Ray?
If you love HEAT i guess you will love THIEF...it's a kind of same story and characters, and it offers a great James Caan performance and a brillant Tangerine Dream soundtrack...an excellent, masterful first theatrical movie for Michael Mann.
THE KEEP is one of my fave horror movies ever... great cast and a brilliant Tangerine Dream soundtrack...
It's a fascinating unique film, even if it a bit rushed in places (the studio producing it butchered it, and Mann didn't have the "final cut")...i was lucky to catch a theatrical screening of "The Keep" in Paris a few years ago during Mann's tribute at la Cinémathèque...it was great! (i also saw on the big screen there "The Jericho Mile", "Thief", "Manhunter" and "The last of the mohicans")
Here's an haunting scene of "The Keep":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3F9cpL-a6A
And here's the great and very rare soundtrack!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VPKs1Io7A0
LAST OF THE MOHICANS... probably one of my top five films ever. Just perfect on every level.
It's a beautifull made film but maybe not among my fav from Mann.
But this ending scene on the cliff...WOW!!!! :P 8)
The wordless showdown between the beautiful Alice/Jodhi May and Magua/Wes Studi, before Alice falls to her death, is just UNFORGETTABLE!
MANHUNTER... far better than the remake, RED DRAGON, and personally I think that Brian Cox (no, not the scientist fella!) is way better than Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lector... BTW, you seen that HANNIBAL TV show? Worth a look...
I haven't seen the HANNIBAL tv show Master Ray but MANHUNTER is probably my favourite Mann film...it's a tense, disturbing haunting movie, and brillantly acted especially by William Petersen and Tom Noonan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djAhwNzf8Qs
The scenes between the killer and his blind girlfriend are among my favourites of Mann's career...the 80's soundtrack is very good too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnunwrqPw_o
and HEAT is just terrific. Possibly the best shoot-out scene ever.
Brillant film indeed, and what a casting!! (De Niro, Pacino, Val Kilmer, Jon Voight, Tom Sizemore, Diane Venora, Amy Brenneman, Ashley Judd..)
ALI... well, how the hell do you make a boring film about Muhammed ALi?
I think it is a very good film, a bit underrated...many thrilling moments in this film, among others the fight scenes and the awesome opening montage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STDo6Z5YJa4
COLLATERAL and PUBLIC ENEMIES were OK, but I feel no need to watch either of those films again...
COLLATERAL is great, maybe Tom Cruise's best performance and Mann's direction and the cinematography are as usual wonderful!
Gorgeous looking film on the big screen, the way Mann shows us L.A. at night is stunning...
PUBLIC ENEMIES...i have to rewatch it soon...The film's screenplay and storytelling are a bit uneven but i overall liked it, especially the last half hour (Dillinger's demise)
Worst of all is MIAMI VICE... utterly shit-awful. I remember enjoying that show in the 80's, good fun and all that... this movie had a Crockett and Tubbs who didn't seem to like each other very much and trudged their way through a dull storyline... it's like a version of The A-Team that had the five of them as dreary alcoholics who stared daggers at each other for two hours... :(
It's a flawed film for sure but overall i thought it was more than decent...i like the dry tone, the almost documentary storytelling and Gong Li's character.
That ending scene was beautifully done, i liked the use of the Mogwai's song...moving:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtfkymtavUE
I am not that interested in film-makers but "The Insider" was a damn good film.
I think THE INSIDER is probably Mann's most accomplished direction, the way the film creates tension and paranoid mood is brillant.
And it is Russell Crowe's finest hour, probably his best performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLXmT6WrORY
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Mann's new thriller seems promising...:
http://collider.com/blackhat-comic-con-panel-recap/
http://www.deadline.com/2014/07/michael-mann-movie-titled-blackhat-chris-hemsworth-2014-oscar-release-date/
Michael Mann and Chris Hemsworth unveiled the first footage of Mann’s latest movie just now and revealed it is called Blackhat. The global cyberthriller will be released early next year, but it may qualify for the Oscars this year in what would be a strategy much like Lone Survivor this past awards season.
The trailer looks big scale and sensational — Mann at his best. Hemsworth plays computer hacker sprung from prison to take on a blackhat hacker.
This is Mann’s first Comic-Con.
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The trailer of BLACK HAT, Michael Mann's new (cyber) thriller is now on line and it looks good!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q66-Mh7_t0
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BLACKHAT second trailer, the film will be released in the States next Friday, and in the UK next month:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VGIHBgj45g
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Looks OK, but it doesn't look like it's gonna be like one of his masterpieces (Mohicans, Heat, etc...)
Whatever, it might surprise me...
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i thought collateral was a good film
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Looks OK, but it doesn't look like it's gonna be like one of his masterpieces (Mohicans, Heat, etc...)
Whatever, it might surprise me...
The trailer in its visuals look like "Miami Vice" and "Collateral"...and when i think i have to wait two months to catch a screening of this last Mann film (french release: mid March ::))
Here's the full press conference, starring Mann, his actors and actresses, and the journalists!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7ERHldMarY
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If there are some British and Irish Michael Mann fans on this board, his new thriller BLACKHAT will be released in the UK and Ireland theaters next Friday...highly recommended! ;)
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THE KEEP is one of my fave horror movies ever... great cast and a brilliant Tangerine Dream soundtrack...
I'm sorry to learn the death of THE KEEP's stunning actress this week...RIP Alberta Watson :'( :'(
(http://www.kitrae.net/music/Images_Secret_Music_Page/The%20Keep/Keep%20set%202hsm.jpg)
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Michael Mann is a hack. All flash and no substance. Wow, isn't this a beautiful shot? So what. The movies you make are meaningless, simplistic crap.
But, yes, THE INSIDER is an incredibly fantastic film. Astonishing film. And the most astonishing thing about the film is that Michael Mann directed it!
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Michael Mann is a hack. All flash and no substance. Wow, isn't this a beautiful shot? So what. The movies you make are meaningless, simplistic crap.
But, yes, THE INSIDER is an incredibly fantastic film. Astonishing film. And the most astonishing thing about the film is that Michael Mann directed it!
Dude, I think you're confusing Michael Mann with Michael Bay... ;)
I give you HEAT and THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS as evidence...
Nice to see you venturing out into other threads, though.
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Dude, I think you're confusing Michael Mann with Michael Bay... ;)[/quote]
ha ha i guess too! ;)
Master Ray, have you seen THIEF?
I've seen it last night on Blu Ray, it's a very good film i think, it's more "low key" than Mann's later films but a compelling thriller with great performances from everyone...like a forerunner of HEAT.
...and finally i've seen BLACKHAT in theaters and even twice!...pretty good, stunning set-pieces and visuals...but if you didn't like MIAMI VICE the movie i'm not sure you will like this one, it's pretty close in tone and thematics.
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Theif is one of those films on the eternal 'must watch on day' list... especially now it's on a lovely Blu disc from Arrow Films, a company that really know what to do with a cult movie... deffo like them on the dreaded FB if you haven't already...
Mr Mann directing a film with a Tangerine Dream soundtrack...? Yes please, just as soon as I get the cash together!
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Mr Mann directing a film with a Tangerine Dream soundtrack...? Yes please, just as soon as I get the cash together!
Yes i'm curious to read your review about it, i'm pretty sure that you will like it! ;)
Here's a nice audiovisual tribute made about our Mann by a french journalist/director for the german/french tv Arte...8 minutes of cool visuals and music, from Tangerine Dream to Moby...enjoy!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsGrLxnDU3o
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Enjoy two great tracks of the excellent BLACKHAT soundtrack...very moody, haunting, ambient, very Mann...:
Final showdown/End credits:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhlxrfO1i8g
"Movements":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnsAbz9Tg6I
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BLACKHAT's Blu Rays and Dvds are now available!
Enjoy one of the moodiest scenes of the year! 8):
https://vimeo.com/132331048
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Michael Mann's new interview about one of his masterpieces HEAT and his new movie (shooting next summer in Italy)...FERRARI :) 8):
http://deadline.com/2015/09/michael-mann-heat-al-pacino-robert-de-niro-ferrari-christian-bale-toronto-film-festival-1201529118/
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Heat is one of my favourite films. It was a more substantial remake of a Mann tv film called LA Takedown. Both De Niro and Pacino are close to the top of their respective games and the supporting cast, Kilmer especially is excellent. Up there with Carlito's Way, the first two Godfathers and Once Upon A Time In America.
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Heat is one of my favourite films. It was a more substantial remake of a Mann tv film called LA Takedown. Both De Niro and Pacino are close to the top of their respective games and the supporting cast, Kilmer especially is excellent. Up there with Carlito's Way, the first two Godfathers and Once Upon A Time In America.
"Heat" is a great film, much more than a thriller, it's about relationships, the sometimes dramatic choices we take in our lives, love, death ...and yes the casting is wonderful, maybe De Niro's last great performance and i also like Kilmer, Voight, Sizemore...the ladies are great too, Brennemann, Venora and Judd.
"L.A. Takedown" is not bad for a tv movie...and it has Jane's Addiction in it!! 8)
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Here are some interesting Michael Mann interviews for "Ali"'s new cut released on US Blu Ray this week...enjoy!!:
http://www.villagevoice.com/film/free-is-real-and-real-is-a-motherfucker-michael-mann-on-ali-15-years-later-9576611
http://deadline.com/2017/01/ali-movie-directors-cut-michael-mann-will-smith-muhammad-ali-1201887992/
And here's Michael Mann Master Class, talking about his whole career from the tv movie "The Jericho Mile" to his last movie "Blackhat" released two years ago...:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QtAbxh7shw
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THE KEEP is one of my fave horror movies ever... great cast and a brilliant Tangerine Dream soundtrack...
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/the-keep/261255/the-disappearance-of-michael-manns-the-keep
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Just watched Heat on Blu again, for the second time. The first must have been round the german dvd releas, 1996? and i couldn't remember much, just that it was a very good movie. This version on Blu was a director's cut, running 170min and it was again a very thrilling watch. I cannot say what the difference to the old version is, it must be more character szenes and though it was a very long movie it never felt boring. My son wasn't so much into it expecting more of an action movie, big heists but this film is about, as said before, relationships, choices we make, and the hard thing to judge what is good and what is evil.
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though it was a very long movie it never felt boring. My son wasn't so much into it expecting more of an action movie, big heists but this film is about, as said before, relationships, choices we make, and the hard thing to judge what is good and what is evil.
It's a compelling and at times poignant characters's study, as much as a thriller...Mann himselfs says that "Heat" is a "drama", not a thriller/cop movie...because the characters are driving the story, the action. The whole casting is very good, the camerawork is superb, as the use of music/sound and L.A. real locations.
Some of my favourite moments:
-the opening scene with the haunting, ethereal music slowly coming with the opening frame.
-first face to face between De Niro and Pacino, when De Niro's character is hiding in the shadows (a forerunner of the film's ending?) and Pacino sees him on his small monitor...very intense.
-De Niro's character going in his empty home, looking at the sea, the emptiness, loneliness of his own life...
-De Niro toying with the cops, with Pacino's team, taking photographs of them.
-Most of the scenes between De Niro and the lovely, shy character played by Amy Brenneman.
-the famous, terrifying shootout after the bank heist
-the last scene between Val Kilmer and Ashley Judd...a moving scene, all the feelings conveyed by the direction, use of close up on the actor/actress's faces.
-De Niro "driving to paradise", in the white tunnel, making a tragic choice after Jon Voigh's call.
-the whole ending: hotel/airport scene.
Brillant movie in every ways!
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I noticed some very wide air shots with a slightly blurred edge, creating a big distance to the world down, making it feel like a miniature. This effect is now very common, but in those days should be an well executed experiment. I don't know if that could have been cgi, i guess it was done mechanically with the lense. Sadly, though promised on the back cover of my blu ray which i bought yesterday: "with hours of extras", there was none! Just an audio commentary.
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I noticed some very wide air shots with a slightly blurred edge, creating a big distance to the world down, making it feel like a miniature. This effect is now very common, but in those days should be an well executed experiment. I don't know if that could have been cgi, i guess it was done mechanically with the lense.
The long lenses, the "telephoto lens"?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=40&v=VMLej6hFN30
If i remember well Mann didn't use CGI in the movie, only real locations of L.A., there were like 80 or 85 places from the city used in the film! He used "green screen" special effects only for the romantic scene between De Niro and Amy Brenneman, when they are talking of their lonely lives in front of the beautiful city at night, "Fidji scene"...Mann wanted the city lights behind their faces or something like that, in 1995 the lenses/depth of field were too "narrow" so he had to use "green screen" and it shows a bit, creating a surreal, dreamlike tone in the scene.
What is interesting is that the L.A shown in "Heat" is quite different from the L.A. Mann shown ten years later in "Collateral"...in "Heat" the city looks cold, empty often, almost abstract...in "Collateral" it's more vivid, also probably because of the pioneer use Mann made of the digital cinematography...one of the first movies shot in HD cinematography, in 2003, making the background, distant neon lights, very vivid...something difficult and even impossible to achieve in 35mm, in 1995..
Sadly, though promised on the back cover of my blu ray which i bought yesterday: "with hours of extras", there was none! Just an audio commentary.
wow! weird! i own the french blu ray released last year, with new copy, audio commentary and lots of interviews from the whole team...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pva7cEdC4l0
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Michael Mann is a hack. All flash and no substance. Wow, isn't this a beautiful shot? So what. The movies you make are meaningless, simplistic crap.
But, yes, THE INSIDER is an incredibly fantastic film. Astonishing film. And the most astonishing thing about the film is that Michael Mann directed it!
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I'd say this guy named Space said it best.
Whirlwind would like to add: why the hell would someone start an entire thread dedicated to Michael Mann? Are we going to start a thread dedicated to McDonald's hamburgers?
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You know whirlwind, if you don't like subjects discussed here, just post in the ones you like. it so easy. you're acting like a spoiled child who thinks it's the center of the universe and we have to explain to you the most simple things like: "there's a thread dedicated to michael mann, because people like his work".
so don't ask anymore stupid questions, you already know the answers to. and remember, there comes a time in your life you've got to grow up fast, and i think...no. your time has passed you. and yes i again fell for your scheme, but i don't care.
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You know whirlwind, if you don't like subjects discussed here, just post in the ones you like.
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So we all most post love for Michael Mann films. We all must post only in threads about subjects we love. No different opinions allowed in your world. Is it a crime to believe in something different?
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you can post your opinion about michael mann movies, but not question that some others like what you don't like. you're so arrogant that you don't see that you question the belives of others in a very selfish fashion and the quote you postet applies more to you, cause you start these things. we're here talking about a filmmaker and you insult that by that stupid comparison of opening a thread about mcdonalds. and you know that and i know that. so go on, the next thing will be you just being ignored by me. at this point i'm really friendly going on with your teasing.
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Here's a very nice, interesting book for those who are interested by this director...it was released in 2006 (the year where the movie "Miami Vice" was released) so maybe it's now difficult to find in a cheap price but it's really worth the price, lots of beautiful pictures, some never seen before, and also an interesting in depth career study by writer F.X Feeney...very recommended ;):
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/515kbuf-FQL._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
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THE KEEP is one of my fave horror movies ever... great cast and a brilliant Tangerine Dream soundtrack...
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GREAT news!
Michael Mann is going to direct his new film next year...an old time project...:
https://deadline.com/2020/06/hugh-jackman-ferrari-michael-mann-movie-stx-amazon-cannes-1202962040/
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Looks interesting, thanks for that! Did you see 'Ford Vs Ferrari' (I think it was called 'Le Mans 66' in some countries...), quite a decent flick. worth a watch.
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Did you see 'Ford Vs Ferrari' (I think it was called 'Le Mans 66' in some countries...), quite a decent flick. worth a watch.
I've seen only the first half...but it looked ok, indeed!
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MANHUNTER... far better than the remake, RED DRAGON, and personally I think that Brian Cox (no, not the scientist fella!) is way better than Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lector... BTW, you seen that HANNIBAL TV show? Worth a look...
If you are in France next month, Splendor Films is re-releasing MANHUNTER on the big screen on the 21st of October, many cities in France will screen it...:
(https://www.lafilmotheque.fr/site/wp-content/uploads/affiche-manhunter-269x380.jpg)
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Ha, haven't been in France since the mid 80's! But I'll agree, I'd love to see Manhunter on a big screen...
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Director Denis Villeneuve is talking with Michael Mann after the screening of Mann's new film, FERRARI, this month in theaters!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8wPlnq2Ck0&ab_channel=TheMovieReport.com
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Michael Mann is talking about his career and 25 of his favourite films:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqvkwNqucTM
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I am not that interested in film-makers but "The Insider" was a damn good film.
Michael Mann is talking about THE INSIDER and THE KEEP here:
https://collider.com/michael-mann-the-insider-explained/
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THE KEEP is one of my fave horror movies ever... great cast and a brilliant Tangerine Dream soundtrack...
THE KEEP was re-released restored in around thirty cinemas in France, on May 14.
I saw it twice in the large room (a 14 meter screen, 355 seats) of the Pathé Convention, this morning and last week! I rushed to see it in Paris before it disappeared from the big screens or was only shown in small theaters. The opening with the arrival of the soldiers in the village or the scene where the two soldiers find Molasar's lair by removing the silver cross are incredible on the big screen!!! The big screen pays tribute to the beauty of Mann's wide shots, the incredible cinematography and sets! On the other hand, in terms of sound, the film's mix is always a little strange, with the volume being more or less loud during certain dialogue scenes.
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Sounds great, jealous as heck! ;D
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Sounds great, jealous as heck! ;D
I hope you get a chance to see THE KEEP in a movie theater sooner or later, Master Ray! ;) Especially since the restored version is beautiful.
Nothing beats the experience of watching this film in a big theater, but at least you now have a great looking region A Blu Ray!:
https://vinegarsyndrome.com/products/the-keep
Carlotta, who released the film in french theaters, should announce the release of their Blu-ray in the coming weeks, I think. 8) 8)
LAST OF THE MOHICANS... probably one of my top five films ever. Just perfect on every level.
I was also lucky enough to see it on the big screen a few months ago, it was shown in a movie theater of my town so this time I didn't have to travel all the way to Paris! Like THE KEEP it's another film to see first in theaters if you want to better enjoy the beauty of the cinematography and the sets, and the wide shots! I would love to see MANHUNTER again on the big screen (it was re-released in french theaters a few years ago but I couldn't go) and also FERRARI which I still haven't seen, because unfortunately it wasn't released in french theaters, but only online, on Amazon...I hope one day to see it on the big screen, like all the others Mann films I've had the chance to see in theaters.