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General Category => Everything Else => Topic started by: Master Ray on July 18, 2014, 08:06:17 PM
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So, my SMITHS thread went down pretty well, where do you lot stand on my joint-second fave band ever..?
The Manics... an excellent, diversive, exciting, no-two-albums-the-same, occasionally ridiculous, often funny but ALWAYS interesting band... :o
Saw them live for the first time during the early days and I've got so much rare vinyl... rough as **** during their first gig but so enjoyable...
GENERATION TERRORISTS was the first album, kind of a low-budget mix of Guns And Roses and The Clash, an 18-track album that was a bit short of being a classic but so many great songs on it... You Love Us, Motorcycle Emptiness, Little Baby Nothing, Repeat (Both versions), Condemned To Rock And Roll, Crucifix Kiss...
GOLD AGAINST THE SOUL... not a fan fave but much better than much of the stuff around nowadays... love Life Becoming A Landslide, From Despair To Where, Roses In The Hospital...
THE HOLY BIBLE... ******* classic. An album that takes the sheer disturbing nature of Joy Divisions lowest moments and puts loud guitars on top. Yes, Revol, Of Walking Abortion, PCP and the bloody brilliant Faster... utterly great stuff.
How do you follow that? With EVERYTHING MUST GO, an album that's half arena-filling Phil Spector sounding stuff with Ritchie-lyrics songs that sound like something Nirvana would turn down as being 'a bit low...' This albums a blast for much of it, but when was the last time you heard a multi-million selling album that dripped into the public ears that had lyrics like 'Here, chewing your tail is joy' and 'Killer God Blood Soiled Unclean Again'? Not gonna get that on the next Coldplay album, are you? ;D
THIS IS MY TRUTH, TELL ME YOURS... hmm, some great tracks but also some awful ones. The singles are great, the rest of it, not so much. Sounds like a band who came into a shitload of money and lost their fire. That said, If You Tolerate This, The Everlasting, I'm Not working and You're Tender And Your Tired are nice tunes.
KNOW YOUR ENEMY... The Manics version of Sandinista, by The Clash! 16 tracks of wildly diverse sounds and quality. At least the guitars are turned up loud again, Intravenous Agnostic, Dead Martyrs and Freedom Of Speech Won't Feed My Children are fantastic! Ocean Spray and Let Robeson Sing are also nice chilled out tracks. Shame about the rest of it, some pretty forgettable tracks there...
LIFEBLOOD - generally regarded as the lowest Manics point, but I like it... Love Of Richard Nixon, Empty Souls, 1985 and To Repel Ghosts are great tracks...
SEND AWAY THE TIGERS... just to show I'm a contrary sod, this was the Manics big comeback album, very successful commercially, but it's my least favourite, I liked LIFEBLOOD far better. YOUR LOVE ALONE and AUTUMNSONG are awesome, the rest of it leaves me cold...
No matter, because JOURNAL FOR PLAGUE LOVERS was the next in line... superb, a stripped down, mostly performed live album made out of old Ritchie lyrics... not a bad song on this album. King of like THE HOLY BIBLE but a lot more optimistic in places...
POSTCARDS FROM A YOUNG MAN... a lovely album, the Manics 'last shot as mass communication', as they put it back then... not true as it happens, the next couple of albums got far more attention, but anyway... not a bad track on this album, big chorus's, hugely enjoyable... Some Kind Of Nothingness, the title track and Don't Be Evil are fantastic...
Which brings us to the two albums they've put out in the space of a year... REWIND THE FILM is almost entirely acoustic and just lovely and sometimes heartbreaking... and FUTUROLOGY, which came out last week... one of their best things they ever did, kind of 80's non-metal rock and well worth checking out...
Bloody hell, I meant that to be quite a short post but I seem to have gone on and on! That's what you get for drinking on a Friday night! Sorry! So, your opinions of THE MANICS!!! ???
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brilliant brillian brilliant band
first four albums were stunning, like one song off the 4th and that was it
probably me because i didn't listen to to whole lot of later stuff
saw them at the 10th anniversary of rictchie in Dublin's Olympia and it was the first three albums mostly
but one of my favourite ever bands. up thee with nma and dead kennedys for me
have the dvd of their videos from the early days. jdb just changed his look so well
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Glad you like them mate!
If you are inclined to get into later stuff, I implore you to listen to JOURNAL and FUTUROLOGY. If you like them, get back to me and I'll direct you where to go to next... ;)
As you said, great band.
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sure thing ray. i'll hook them up and listen to them.
I've managed to get to a stage where I am putting on albums while working. must mean i am getting fluent at this shit. and i will listen to them and get back to you. i have heard a lot of the music but not to the level where i know most melodies, riffs and next song
but the best start of all is sleepflower on gold against the soul. i could start that album any time and rock
so much excellent stuff. listen to it spots. time to do a from the start session
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I only have the "Everything must go" album, but I like it a lot. Reminds me of a good year in my life. I probably should get more stuff by them, but to be honest, there are only a handful of bands I have the back catalogue of. Have to admit, I am a buyer of compilations
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Shush, you can get hold of NATIONAL TREASURES (a comp of every Manics single, all thirty something of them) on Amazon for under a fiver... so much great stuff there, get back to me if you want more info... such a great band. And you're right, EMG is a terrific album... and I also had a good year in 1996... :D
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Ah, my good year was 1997, What Can I say, I am usually behind the times ::)
The comp sounds OK. Mention it to my missus when you see her again, Xmas usually shows me a CD or two in the morning. :)
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hey ray, what about the remixes on the single particularly off everything must go ones
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hey ray, what about the remixes on the single particularly off everything must go ones
Gotta say, mate, not a fan of remixes, but The Manics did some amazing b-sides... you ever heard LIPSTICK TRACES... a double CD of b-sides and cover versions, not a bad track there... check out Sepia, Comfort Comes, Judge Yrself, Close My Eyes, 4ever Delayed, Prologue To History, Donkeys, Sorrow 16, We Her Majesty's Prisoners... fantastic tracks that really belonged on a MSP album.
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OK, as I did on my SMITHS thread here's a MANICS top 5...
1 - Motorcycle Emptiness
2 - Yes
3 - Faster
4 - Little Baby Nothing
5 - No Surface, All Feeling.
Yours..?
:D
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One of the best bands ever besides NMA of course. The first I head of the Manics was Holy Bible and was so ******* blown away. The first song made no sense. The lyrics did not match the music but it was brillaint.
The very first song I heard contained the line
" He's a boy, you want a girl so tear off his ****. Tie his hair in bunches, **** him, call him rita if you want"
That really caught my attention, Then you had "Revol, Faster, PCP, Of Walking Abortion. Etc.
It is one of the best albums in the history of music. Sadly they are also virtually unknown in my country.
I also thought it was very heartbreaking to read about Richey Edwards. He was such a genius yet so self-destructive and his disappearance.
I like Lifeblood a lot by the way. I really don't give a shit if critics consider it their low point. Critics are pointless considering the musical taste is subjective anyway. I love it. Glasnost, 1985, Solitude Sometimes is, It's a solid album.
You forgot to mention Lipstick traces which technically is not considered and album but compilation. Either way it's fantastic.
Sorry for the long raving post but before I discovered NMA this was my music obsession and favorite band. They are half as passionate as NMA which is not an easy task.
Top 5 (very hard)
1. Faster
2. Spectators of Suicide
3. From Despair to Where
4. Revol
5. Loves's sweet Exile.
So **** and shit are okay on this forum software but **** is not. I guess it has something against male chickens. :)
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first song i remember was motorcycle emptiness
and i have to admit it was a mate of mine, Deck, who got me into them. nearly dragged me kicking ans screaming into it. probably 93/94. then it was full tilt. then ritchie doing the 4real thing in the interview and then it just went from there to everything must go so fast.
ray, i heard most of them. have a bunch of the cd singles from all along
some great rec's in this thread
thanks gang
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One of the best bands ever besides NMA of course. The first I head of the Manics was Holy Bible and was so ******* blown away. The first song made no sense. The lyrics did not match the music but it was brillaint.
The very first song I heard contained the line
" He's a boy, you want a girl so tear off his ****. Tie his hair in bunches, **** him, call him rita if you want"
That really caught my attention, Then you had "Revol, Faster, PCP, Of Walking Abortion. Etc.
It is one of the best albums in the history of music. Sadly they are also virtually unknown in my country.
I also thought it was very heartbreaking to read about Richey Edwards. He was such a genius yet so self-destructive and his disappearance.
I like Lifeblood a lot by the way. I really don't give a shit if critics consider it their low point. Critics are pointless considering the musical taste is subjective anyway. I love it. Glasnost, 1985, Solitude Sometimes is, It's a solid album.
You forgot to mention Lipstick traces which technically is not considered and album but compilation. Either way it's fantastic.
Sorry for the long raving post but before I discovered NMA this was my music obsession and favorite band. They are half as passionate as NMA which is not an easy task.
Top 5 (very hard)
1. Faster
2. Spectators of Suicide
3. From Despair to Where
4. Revol
5. Loves's sweet Exile.
So **** and shit are okay on this forum software but **** is not. I guess it has something against male chickens. :)
Great post, A... glad a US citizen loves the Manics! Nicky made a joke about them being the least-selling band ever in the US! If you ever get a chance to see them live, do so, they're fantastic, seen 'em about 15 times or something like that. You might have to come over to these rainy shores for that one!
BTW, me and Shush figured out that you can't say **** but you can say cocks, in the plural... the swearbot can't figure that one out... likewise for the other c-word... ;D
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Great thread in The Guardian today, thought I'd reactivate this one...
http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/dec/10/manic-street-preachers-10-of-the-best
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Allways like Kevin Carter,great feel about it.
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Love that song, and the album it is off takes we right back to the later 90's :)
But, am I sentimental for the time, or for being in my 20's :-\
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BUMP!
Thought I'd resurrect this one seeing as I'm really liking the new Manics tune, the official Wales Euro 2016 anthem... 'Together Stronger'... best tune they've done in ages, IMO...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmHnnkzgjCI
What do you lot reckon? ;)
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Lets hope it inspires our Celtic cousins on to victory
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Following your recommendation MR, I've gone and bought National Treasures. It's great. I kinda lost track of the Manics after 'This is my truth...'.
So which of their later albums would be a good one to get?
Not so sure about the football song btw. But then again, I can't think of a football song that I actually like. Come to think of it I can't even be bothered with football anymore. All the corruption, violence and absence of any ethics has really put me off.
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Following your recommendation MR, I've gone and bought National Treasures. It's great. I kinda lost track of the Manics after 'This is my truth...'.
So which of their later albums would be a good one to get?
Not so sure about the football song btw. But then again, I can't think of a football song that I actually like. Come to think of it I can't even be bothered with football anymore. All the corruption, violence and absence of any ethics has really put me off.
Glad you liked NT! I think what I can recommend to you is whatever singles you liked from the NT album and go on from those indications...
But if you're after three albums that hark back to the varying styles of the 'classic era', I'd go with 'Postcards From A Young Man', 'Futurology' and 'Rewind The Film'. All so different but great. Here's 'Walk Me To The Bridge'....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nusymqINrSc
Get back to me if you want to know anything more.
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Thanks MR!
I like 'Walk me to the Bridge'
From NT, I really like 'Postcards from a Young Man', 'Your Love Alone id mot Enough' 'Empty Souls' and 'Indian Summer'.
I also like the track 'Futurology' which someone (probably you!) posted a link to a little while ago.
So which of those three that you recommended would be the one to go for?
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Thanks MR!
I like 'Walk me to the Bridge'
From NT, I really like 'Postcards from a Young Man', 'Your Love Alone id mot Enough' 'Empty Souls' and 'Indian Summer'.
I also like the track 'Futurology' which someone (probably you!) posted a link to a little while ago.
So which of those three that you recommended would be the one to go for?
Well... if you only have the inclination to go for one of them... Futurology. Very acclaimed, by critics and Manics fans alike. To me, it sounds like a natural follow on from TIMT,TMY but with better tunes. PFAYM might be a bit more commercial and RTF is a great chill-out album, but if I had to go one of the three I mentioned, that'd be my choice. You can get it pretty cheap online.
New album next year, so check the lads out live if you get chance!
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Thanks MR!
I'll go for Futurology for now. Would love to see them live but the chances of them coming to New Zealand are probably quite slim.
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Thanks MR!
I'll go for Futurology for now. Would love to see them live but the chances of them coming to New Zealand are probably quite slim.
Ah, didn't realise you were in NZ. Probably not gonna happen. :'(
I think you'll love Futurology. Did I ever post the video for 'Show Me The Wonder', from Rewind The Film? I really like this tune... Very different to the tunes you mentioned...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9L-jyFEsK4
Anyone out there got anything else to say about The Manics?
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I'll go for Futurology for now. Would love to see them live but the chances of them coming to New Zealand are probably quite slim.
I'll quess the nearest chances to see bands would be even in Wollongong or Canberra if bands do not go to New Zealand?
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BUMP!
Seeing as the new Manic Street Preachers album popped through my letterbox, a day ahead of schedule, and I'm listening it to it right now, what's your opinion of this great band, if you haven't posted already (seeing as some of us have been posting about their opinions about The Levellers, Placebo, etc...)
The new albums a cracking good listen, BTW!