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General Category => New Model Army => Topic started by: Space on February 26, 2015, 09:35:49 PM
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I've had "Wine And Blood" since Christmas. Have not listened to the studio CD at all. I've played the live CD, and like it a lot, but never once put on the new studio songs yet.
I've done this before with other artists I like. I have a Pearl Jam album from 1998 that I still have not listened to. I have all Clint Eastwood, Akira Kurosawa, and Steven Spielberg films on DVD, yet I have saved one film from each that I will not watch.
The idea is to save something. Kurosawa has died and no longer will be making any films...but I have a Kurosawa film that will be brand new to me. Clint is an old geezer right now, but I have a Clint film from when Clint was tough that I have not seen and can look forward to watching. The idea of saving something for later from a favorite artist is pretty cool. Wouldn't it be great to have bought all The Beatle albums in the '60s, but never played, say, "Rubber Soul"? Imagine how cool that feeling would be to have a completely unheard, complete Beatle album!
Well, I'm doing that right now with New Model Army. You people have heard and digested the songs on "Wine And Blood." I read a lot about how great the tune "Angry Planet" is. Well, I haven't heard it yet but have the cool feeling of anticipation. There is a six song set of New Model Army tunes on "Wine and Blood" that I have never listened to. Cool feeling to have.
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Sir, I think that NMA are far from finished... dig into those lovely BWAB tunes and wallow in their goodness!
Plenty more to come, I suspect... ;)
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You are in for a treat Space. From what you have said in the past, I would imagine you will like the first three the best, especially "Angry Planet". I do not think you will like "Sunrise", that one is more in line with their hippy side.
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Also, Space, while we're on the subject of Mr Eastwood... you seen 'American Sniper' yet? Excellent movie...
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I am very impressed by this Space. I do not know how you have the will power I can't see myself EVER being able to do this!
I make a point of not looking at motorway crashes as I slowly crawl past, not because I'm not a sick, nosy bastard, just because it's hard to do. But music by bands I love - I just gotta.
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I am very impressed by this Space. I do not know how you have the will power I can't see myself EVER being able to do this!
The will power comes from the feeling that it is good to know that I have something more to look forward to. I only wish I had an entire Beatle album I have not heard yet. 12 songs recorded during the peak of their powers...completely unheard. That would be something.
while we're on the subject of Mr Eastwood... you seen 'American Sniper' yet? Excellent movie...
No. Won't see it.
A) Clint is not in it.
B) I don't like bio-pics. I'd rather see a top documentary on the guy Chris Kyle than a fictionalized account of his life. Would you want to see a movie about NMA in which the band is played by actors, or would you rather see a well made documentary about the band?
C) Over here this "American Sniper" film is getting waaaaaay too much praise from our conservative FOX News channel. To me, that is not a good sign. It would be like if Hitler praised a movie, would you really want to see it?
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My fave track is actually Happy to be here. I don't think it will be your's. It sounds as if it belongs on a JS solo album.
Guessing is also a great track. Angry planet is growing on me but it's a hard-rock track not so much a powerful slow track.
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My fave track is actually Happy to be here. I don't think it will be your's. It sounds as if it belongs on a JS solo album.
Is "Happy" a non-rocker? Hey, I like the slow, moody stuff, too. My favorite track, the best track on "Dog and Wolf" is "Summer Moors." I could place that song in a top five of New Model Army songs. And it don't exactly ROCK.
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I am very impressed by this Space. I do not know how you have the will power I can't see myself EVER being able to do this!
The will power comes from the feeling that it is good to know that I have something more to look forward to. I only wish I had an entire Beatle album I have not heard yet. 12 songs recorded during the peak of their powers...completely unheard. That would be something.
I totally get that, I really do. It's the sort of crazy thing I would think about doing. I just live with the hope some amazing unreleased tracks are unearthed.
One thing I do do is I don't over listen to new stuff so it remains new to me, I have a great fear of boredom.
As a matter of interest when do you plan to listen to Wine and Blood?
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This is an interesting topic. There's definatley something to be said for savoring things. I think Justin has talked in the past of not listening to his favorite songs very often at all, but they're there when he needs them. We're surrounded by music these days - it's in shops, films, TV documentaries, and we can take it all with us wherever we go, so sometimes it's nice to use it a bit more sparingly for some reason. For example I love Ballad Of Bodmin Pill, but probably only listen to it a couple of times a year.
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I`m too old to spare some music or books to listen or to read it later....
I wan`t to listen to an new NMA as soon as possible, want to read a book or music next weekend!
How can I be sure I`m alive next year or next month or tomorrow? And perhaps I`m still alive and I`m a wrack, in a hospital, and none is interesting in things I want, they tell me what I have to do and if not, none is there to help me?
That´s my nightmare - and perhaps not so far away from reality :(
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As a matter of interest when do you plan to listen to Wine and Blood?
I won't let this delay last ten years like that Pearl Jam album I have not yet listened to. (I listen to and love just about every song Pearl Jam has ever released - albums, singles, B-sides, lost tracks, live versions... and I am so glad that I have an entire Pearl Jam album I have yet to hear. Like an ancient artifact I can discover.)
I am still listening to and sinking myself into the live CD from "Wine and Blood." That live CD I am enjoying immensely. No need really to try the studio CD at this point. I imagine in a few months I'll finally give the new stuff on "Wine And Blood" a listen. Not going to wait years on this one.
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That's kind of like when wine connoisseurs save that bottle for some time special; me, I need instant gratification, now!
Cheers
jc
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I tried holding off paying a tax bill once,,,,,,with bad results. pop that disc in the player now and start your weekend off in the best possible way.
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I've had "Wine And Blood" since Christmas. Have not listened to the studio CD at all. I've played the live CD, and like it a lot, but never once put on the new studio songs yet.
I've done this before with other artists I like. I have a Pearl Jam album from 1998 that I still have not listened to.
There's something I can recognize. Know the feeling. Oddly I have had the same situation sometimes. I've spared some records with some friends long time ago, giving away couple of ep's and some cd's, and got in a spare some albums and compilations from bands I've never heard. Then later on after many years when you're in a mood you would like to listen to something but don't know what exactly, there's some of these albums in your hand and you think "why not?"... They are very interesting moments.
Nowadays the most of the albums I have in a shelf have stayed untouched for many years - because I feel I know and remember most of them very well. I used to listen to them millions of times. And I don't have always enough time to sit down and relax. Not in the mood you know... But recently I've had also a feeling I like to re-explore some bands once again specially, and more deeper than I earlier used to. I play their stuff around and around, but also look for some information, history, interviews, vids, rare material and live shows from the net as well. Even some comments about them from other fans and people. You'll get some more "depth" to them for couple of weeks and get to know them better who they actually are/were. Then you're done with them...at least for some time again.
About the Wine & Blood, I felt it lasted for quite short moment, but all of the songs were very powerfully loaded. It sounded like very "bright" stuff you know. Expert mixing, powerful sounds... At first before buying the album I had heard Guessing first, and then the Angry Planet. Then I somehow got a totally new feeling about Guessing when I heard it for second time, live, and bought the album. I think it's one of their best songs... And what comes to Sunrise it's backing vocals on chorus are amazing! It's like having a shower and clearing your mind of shit from past weeks things.
But you should not listen to our views for too long time. ;)
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I can remember when tigd came out I took my discman with me to hmv in Glasgow on the first day of release, got outside sat on the bench opened it up and put it straight in the player and hit play
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I can remember when tigd came out I took my discman with me to hmv in Glasgow on the first day of release, got outside sat on the bench opened it up and put it straight in the player and hit play
But then you had to wait five years for new material!
You should have listened to just half the album that day and saved the other songs for a few years later.
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I am very impressed by this Space. I do not know how you have the will power I can't see myself EVER being able to do this!
The will power comes from the feeling that it is good to know that I have something more to look forward to. I only wish I had an entire Beatle album I have not heard yet. 12 songs recorded during the peak of their powers...completely unheard. That would be something.
while we're on the subject of Mr Eastwood... you seen 'American Sniper' yet? Excellent movie...
No. Won't see it.
A) Clint is not in it.
B) I don't like bio-pics. I'd rather see a top documentary on the guy Chris Kyle than a fictionalized account of his life. Would you want to see a movie about NMA in which the band is played by actors, or would you rather see a well made documentary about the band?
C) Over here this "American Sniper" film is getting waaaaaay too much praise from our conservative FOX News channel. To me, that is not a good sign. It would be like if Hitler praised a movie, would you really want to see it?
Hi, Space!
Respect your opinion on this one... for my part, I do think that the film touches on what it costs a man to kill others in their name of the government that they work for. Not SO much, but it really isn't a jingoistic kill-fest like a Rambo movie or anything... I thought it was well made and well acted. IMO, anyway...
Bio-pics? Can they ever be like something close to the reality of it all? Real life condensed into two hours ain't never gonna work. I thought AS did a good job... especially in view of the fact that Mr Kyle was murdered, which I didn't know when I watched the film...
Whatever, thought the film was decent enough. respect to yourself if you don't wanna watch it. As far as Clint performances go, I thought he was terrific in Gran Torino and Million Dollar Baby. A man in his 70's putting in two of his best performances... :o
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As far as Clint performances go, I thought he was terrific in Gran Torino and Million Dollar Baby. A man in his 70's putting in two of his best performances... :o
You nailed it. Those two (along with his Man With No Name films) are his best work as an actor. I also liked his comedy work in the two oragutan movies, but definitely GRAN TORINO and MILLION DOLLAR BABY are the high points of Clint's acting career.
Bio-pics? Can they ever be like something close to the reality of it all? Real life condensed into two hours ain't never gonna work.
Hell, yeah, bio-pics, real life condensed in to two hours, can work. Two of the greatest films ever made - RAGING BULL and PATTON - show that a bio-pic can be a work of art.
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Wait five years I live for the day, you never know what is going happen
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I quite like the idea of savouring a new release but I'm far too impatient to do that and as Pol points out, what if you got run over by a bus and went off to that great gig in the sky without ever hearing Angry Planet? That would be a real pisser. ;D
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I mean its not like fine food or a expensive alcoholic drink your probably only going to get to try once. Once you have played the record it has still there to be savoured and enjoyed to even greater highs next time
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Sounds a good idea as long as you know when you're going to die. Imagine never getting the chance to listen to or watch something. ???