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General Category => New Model Army => Topic started by: Shush on August 24, 2016, 03:39:48 PM
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After three listens, "Beginning"
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How have you got it so quickly? I ordered the single and album at the same time. Haven't even got the single yet!
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How have you got it so quickly? I ordered the single and album at the same time. Haven't even got the single yet!
Because NMA obviously like Shush better than the rest of us... bloody favouritism... (wanders off, muttering and grumbling in an indistinct kind of way...)
To be fair, a friend of mine posted me something from 20 miles away and it took nearly a week to reach me... yay, privitisation of the postal service! That's working just fine!
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You're just showing off Shush :P :) Tell ya after Friday when maybe get to hear some tracks live ;)
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Sorry guys, not my fault. Don't worry, its worth the wait.
I think it maybe because of the order I placed. Did my pre-order several weeks ago and ordered a Tee shirt at the same time with the comment - happy to wait for the Tee shirt to go out with the CD and single when ready. Maybe when the shop got stocks of the new album, they sent out my awkward order to get it out of the way before the big send out of standard packages
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Viv Savage loves me so much for my stimulating posts on this forum, he put in a good word for me with the shop to get me on the V.I.P. list to get the album early
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Deffo the latter, sir... ;)
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz oh err? sorry? err... was away with the pixies again! It's all so stimulazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
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Viv, you're hanging out with Pixies?
Tell Frank Black I loved his solo stuff!
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Ha!
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Tell Frank Black I loved his solo stuff!
And tell him I hated it. Stick with the band and quit changing your damn name.
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Got it on itunes this morning 8)....maybe the CD will be here on Monday, so I had one weekend without the new album. I do need the CD at last for the artwork. Anyway, even if I pay double for it, I know that the money is going to one of the best bands on the world.
Winter is a great album, love it from the first listening!
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Beginning :-\
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On first listen:
"beginning"
"burn the castle",
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On first listen:
"beginning"
"burn the castle",
So, folks abroad get the album before I did?
That's it, bloody Brexit etc, I'll bet the immigrants all got the album before I did, *steam shoots out of Master Rays ears like a whistling kettle and he has to go for a lie down...*
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I STILL (years after the last time I talked about this) don't understand the need here to talk about what you all DON'T like about New Model Army's new albums (or the old ones for that matter) - this being THEIR OWN internally run noticeboard.
Any thought to the band members feelings, since this is THEIR site? You know, those passionate guys who are very likely excited about the new release getting into the hands of the fans and then immediately seeing everyone go on about their LEAST FAVORITE TRACK on their board of the supposed "biggest fans"?
Ahhh the internet - making everyone feel their EVERY opinion is important and valid enough to shout to the world.
So this is mine. ;)
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Its the most natural thing to talk about favorites and least favorites. Thats what passionate music lovers do. And if you cant stand negativity just stick to the OTHER thread about the favorites tracks.
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I'm hard pressed to find 1 that I don't like :-\
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I STILL (years after the last time I talked about this) don't understand the need here to talk about what you all DON'T like about New Model Army's new albums (or the old ones for that matter) - this being THEIR OWN internally run noticeboard.
Any thought to the band members feelings, since this is THEIR site? You know, those passionate guys who are very likely excited about the new release getting into the hands of the fans and then immediately seeing everyone go on about their LEAST FAVORITE TRACK on their board of the supposed "biggest fans"?
Ahhh the internet - making everyone feel their EVERY opinion is important and valid enough to shout to the world.
So this is mine. ;)
And where exactly has anyone stated what they do not like ?
Read the title of the thread -- Least FAVOURITE track on Winter - SO FAR
I like all the songs on the album, it is superb. My least favourite at this stage is "beginning". Fail to see why that is a problem, I was just trying to generate discussion on how people first react to the album. In a week or three, "Beginning" may well be my most favourite. I also started a thread called -- Most favourite track on Winter - so far,, if you care to look
http://board.newmodelarmy.org/index.php?topic=9186.0
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Tell Frank Black I loved his solo stuff!
And tell him I hated it. Stick with the band and quit changing your damn name.
Oy! 'Teenager Of The Year' was a great album!
I mean, who could resist a song called 'Whatever Happened To Pong'?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeP2YkEpGOQ
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Its the most natural thing to talk about favorites and least favorites. Thats what passionate music lovers do. And if you cant stand negativity just stick to the OTHER thread about the favorites tracks.
its not about me.
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On first listen:
"beginning"
"burn the castle",
So, folks abroad get the album before I did?
I tried to order the album on the Shop but it didn't work!! :'(
So i bought the cd yesterday at my local shop. ;)
After 3 listens i now dig "Burn the castle" so my least favourite tracks are:
"Beginning"
"Part the waters"
"Eyes get used to the darkness"
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I STILL (years after the last time I talked about this) don't understand the need here to talk about what you all DON'T like about New Model Army's new albums (or the old ones for that matter) - this being THEIR OWN internally run noticeboard.
Any thought to the band members feelings, since this is THEIR site? You know, those passionate guys who are very likely excited about the new release getting into the hands of the fans and then immediately seeing everyone go on about their LEAST FAVORITE TRACK on their board of the supposed "biggest fans"?
Ahhh the internet - making everyone feel their EVERY opinion is important and valid enough to shout to the world.
So this is mine. ;)
So, Sequonia... do you actually think that NMA are so arrogant that they believe that everything they do is beyond criticism and, if it doesn't find favour in the ears of the fans, should be regarded as a personal insult?
This is a band that has constantly played with their 'sound' and flits between genres so that they can keep it all exciting and different after 30+ years. It's highly unlikely that every single track they ever did would be beloved by the fanbase.
If I made a living making music with a band, I'd be very interested in what people thought of my work, whether it be good or bad.
Every opinion is important and valid, as you somewhat disparagingly noted... as are all the ones here in this site. Or is there a cut-off point where people should not be allowed to express an opinion? Any advice as to where that might be? ???
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Play nicely y'all - always gonna be favourite tracks and ones folks ain't so keen on. Remember " but I know it isn't personal" :-*
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Echo November - don't like the girls doing the backing vocals. To high and winey in my opinion.
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I STILL (years after the last time I talked about this) don't understand the need here to talk about what you all DON'T like about New Model Army's new albums (or the old ones for that matter) - this being THEIR OWN internally run noticeboard.
Any thought to the band members feelings, since this is THEIR site? You know, those passionate guys who are very likely excited about the new release getting into the hands of the fans and then immediately seeing everyone go on about their LEAST FAVORITE TRACK on their board of the supposed "biggest fans"?
Ahhh the internet - making everyone feel their EVERY opinion is important and valid enough to shout to the world.
So this is mine. ;)
So, Sequonia... do you actually think that NMA are so arrogant that they believe that everything they do is beyond criticism and, if it doesn't find favour in the ears of the fans, should be regarded as a personal insult?
This is a band that has constantly played with their 'sound' and flits between genres so that they can keep it all exciting and different after 30+ years. It's highly unlikely that every single track they ever did would be beloved by the fanbase.
If I made a living making music with a band, I'd be very interested in what people thought of my work, whether it be good or bad.
Every opinion is important and valid, as you somewhat disparagingly noted... as are all the ones here in this site. Or is there a cut-off point where people should not be allowed to express an opinion? Any advice as to where that might be? ???
do you actually think I am that naive?
And you imply I see the band as arrogant? your words, not mine.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, in the world as far as Im concerned. To me, this is about being respectful and polite. I used to work on a lot of records in my recording studio days. I sat in on a lot of "listening parties" when said records were complete. All the friends, industry peeps, etc would be invited to drink and listen with the band, who were, undoubtedly very excited for people to hear all the songs they thought were great.
Do I think not one person in those rooms had any negative feelings about anything they heard? of course not.
But not once did I ever hear anyone say within earshot of the band what they didnt like about the music they were hearing. Because, perhaps that would be rude.
So I ask you, where is the line? Would you all be voting out loud on the least favorite song if you sitting in a room WITH the band members after your first listen? Do you think the band would poll you all to ask for some honest criticism?
Does the line get drawn as it becomes the internet?
If the band were all live here in a chatroom with you all as we all listened, would you then talk about the least favorite song?
Im just curious, where is the line for you? To me, in this space, its rude. Thats all. Thats MY opinion. Clearly, ONLY mine.
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I never said anything about what should be "allowed" or not - long ago I was quite an advocate on here against censoring ANY words/opinions/etc , no matter what. Thats not what this OPINION of mine was about.
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Play nicely y'all - always gonna be favourite tracks and ones folks ain't so keen on. Remember " but I know it isn't personal" :-*
Are we that naive? I already referred to having this conversation in the past on here, I think your comment is already understood by all.
But I promise you, these works are all quite personal to the people that spent long hours creating them.
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I'm hard pressed to find 1 that I don't like :-\
Same here.
Only played it around a dozen times so struggling to find one I don't really like, first impressions are it's a stunning mix
I'll be driving to Stoke and back most days now until Christmas (200 mile round trip) so it will get plenty of play
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I STILL (years after the last time I talked about this) don't understand the need here to talk about what you all DON'T like about New Model Army's new albums (or the old ones for that matter) - this being THEIR OWN internally run noticeboard.
Any thought to the band members feelings, since this is THEIR site? You know, those passionate guys who are very likely excited about the new release getting into the hands of the fans and then immediately seeing everyone go on about their LEAST FAVORITE TRACK on their board of the supposed "biggest fans"?
Ahhh the internet - making everyone feel their EVERY opinion is important and valid enough to shout to the world.
So this is mine. ;)
So, Sequonia... do you actually think that NMA are so arrogant that they believe that everything they do is beyond criticism and, if it doesn't find favour in the ears of the fans, should be regarded as a personal insult?
This is a band that has constantly played with their 'sound' and flits between genres so that they can keep it all exciting and different after 30+ years. It's highly unlikely that every single track they ever did would be beloved by the fanbase.
If I made a living making music with a band, I'd be very interested in what people thought of my work, whether it be good or bad.
Every opinion is important and valid, as you somewhat disparagingly noted... as are all the ones here in this site. Or is there a cut-off point where people should not be allowed to express an opinion? Any advice as to where that might be? ???
do you actually think I am that naive?
And you imply I see the band as arrogant? your words, not mine.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, in the world as far as Im concerned. To me, this is about being respectful and polite. I used to work on a lot of records in my recording studio days. I sat in on a lot of "listening parties" when said records were complete. All the friends, industry peeps, etc would be invited to drink and listen with the band, who were, undoubtedly very excited for people to hear all the songs they thought were great.
Do I think not one person in those rooms had any negative feelings about anything they heard? of course not.
But not once did I ever hear anyone say within earshot of the band what they didnt like about the music they were hearing. Because, perhaps that would be rude.
So I ask you, where is the line? Would you all be voting out loud on the least favorite song if you sitting in a room WITH the band members after your first listen? Do you think the band would poll you all to ask for some honest criticism?
Does the line get drawn as it becomes the internet?
If the band were all live here in a chatroom with you all as we all listened, would you then talk about the least favorite song?
Im just curious, where is the line for you? To me, in this space, its rude. Thats all. Thats MY opinion. Clearly, ONLY mine.
Hi Seq. Thanks for responding. All the best to you and yours.
Firstly, I don't know if you're naïve. Obviously, I don't know you.
Secondly... this stuff about 'would you say stuff about the band / songs if they were in a room with you...' well, if it was respectful and they asked, then yes, I would. I don't regard the band as arrogant, I've met many of them, over the years, including Justin. I know that they work hard to make as much good music as they can and play the best shows that they can.
They completely appreciate their fanbase and don't take them for granted. So, yes, 100 percent, they are interested in what we think about the stuff they poured their hearts and souls into. I'm not saying that they would change anything that they do, that would be ridiculous.
Discussing the music you love is not dismissive of something you are passionate about, not for a single second. No other opinion is valid. Even if it isn't completely favourable.
Where is the line? Heck, you drew it, my friend, not me...
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Sequonia this is not a vote to determine the least favourite song. As I said before, it is a look at peoples early reaction to the album after a few listens - just the same as its sister thread is a way to determine most favourite after first listens.
To answer one of your recent questions, if I were in a room with the band discussing how I felt about the tracks on this album, I would be prepared to say that after a few listens, I like every single track, at this stage my favourite is "Eyes get used to the Darkness", my least is "Beginning", but expect it will grow on me with more listens. Remember - "least favourite" is still a favourite - a song you like, but less than the others.
I will add this, if this thread has remotely offended any member of the band, something I would truly hate to do while discussing your excellent new album, please send me a p/m, I will delete this thread instantly.
So - if you see this thread disappear, you know why.
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I'd hate to see this thread disappear.
Nobody's said anything as truly nasty as some of the things that were said in 'The Space Days'.
Some diversive comments got thrown around. I'd love to see how they develop.
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We have had least favourite threads in the past n no one has bothered. I get the beginning thing, its a slow broody track that slowly builds. Think its gonna work really well live when you get the full power of the song. Yes for sure I hate to some what demean the bands work but everyone including the band themselves will have personal favourites n therefore least favourites
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First play through, tired after a hard week, I was struggling. Now after second and third plays I am struggling to find a bad track. I feel they have taken the tricks learned from BDAW and built on it in a big way; can't wait to see the autumn tour.
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Second listening through headphones....its starting to register more. Im liking it.
As for "criticisms/least favourites". None yet. However its my money I spent and if I dont like something Im perfectly entitled to say so, respectfully. Otherwise Im cheated out of my dosh!!! ;D
I pour my heart into my job too, as do others. It doesnt make me immune to criticism either.
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Drifts does nothing for me, sorry just don't get it!!
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Drifts does nothing for me, sorry just don't get it!!
One of my current favourites together with Eyes Get Used to the Darkness. Just goes to show.
I think it's the most BDAW sounding track on Winter. Took me a few listens to 'get' it though.
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Gives Drifts a bit of time and a few more listens Nick, I am sure it will fall into place for you. I like the way it slows down to a stop and then carries on as if nothing happened.
Similarly, I can honestly say (and not to appease Sequonia), I now fully like "Beginning". The deep grinding guitar and the way it mixes into "Burn the castle". Several tracks on this album have very good hooks I cannot get out of my head and "Beginning" is now one of them.
:)
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I don't like Drifts...some nice sounds there but they do not turn into a song...
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No worries always happy to give a song more chances but lupus has it right for me. Just don't get the lyrics although the song sounds nice! Do love the rest of the album though and can't wait to see it played live roll on November!!
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Hi Seq. Thanks for responding. All the best to you and yours.
Firstly, I don't know if you're naïve. Obviously, I don't know you.
Secondly... this stuff about 'would you say stuff about the band / songs if they were in a room with you...' well, if it was respectful and they asked, then yes, I would. I don't regard the band as arrogant, I've met many of them, over the years, including Justin. I know that they work hard to make as much good music as they can and play the best shows that they can.
They completely appreciate their fanbase and don't take them for granted. So, yes, 100 percent, they are interested in what we think about the stuff they poured their hearts and souls into. I'm not saying that they would change anything that they do, that would be ridiculous.
Discussing the music you love is not dismissive of something you are passionate about, not for a single second. No other opinion is valid. Even if it isn't completely favourable.
Where is the line? Heck, you drew it, my friend, not me...
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Im sorry - we are not speaking exactly the same language, as you seem to respond to or imply things I have not said at all. I am sorry - maybe it is my fault - but I kind of give up here. cheers.
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We have had least favourite threads in the past n no one has bothered. I get the beginning thing, its a slow broody track that slowly builds. Think its gonna work really well live when you get the full power of the song. Yes for sure I hate to some what demean the bands work but everyone including the band themselves will have personal favourites n therefore least favourites
This is incorrect Pol. I remember threads mentioning sound quality of certain songs/albums, and just opinions on certain "least favorite" songs/albums, and I distinctly remember Jools commenting that people here should re-consider some of the things that is said here because the band does occasionally read these things. I am 98% sure my brain didnt make up that memory, though it was some years back. And I agreed.
For the record, I never stated that people cant/shouldnt have opinions, and even shouldn't be able to discuss them. nor that the band is arrogant, naive, expecting their fans to love their every note played/sung.....any of those things would be preposterous of me to suggest.
Judging by the continuing of comments to my words, it is clear people are not understanding what angle of all this I am trying to address and I will chalk it up to my poor communication skills and end the conversation.
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To be honest, Seq, I have no idea about what you're on about either... I don't think I've said anything offensive, just comments about my love of the band and how others might perceive the new album?
Perhaps others, reading our posts, might throw some light on it?
Whatever. I genuinely wish you no ill and hope you carry on with your obvious love of NMA. If our paths cross at some point, the first drink is on me. ;)
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No worries always happy to give a song more chances but lupus has it right for me. Just don't get the lyrics although the song sounds nice!
To me it's about the attraction of opposites and the inevitable frictions that that causes. Totally in love with this song at the moment.
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i got to the c side of the vynil version so far.
usually every album grow on me it has always been like that (beside Between Wine and Blood I have to admit or much less) but until now Devil and Strougola a bit "weird"...........cannot explain how and why right now.
need to dig more.............
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I will probably be the only one to say that I just haven't connected with Devil yet...not sure whats up; maybe just a bit too rich sonically
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Echo November
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Echo November
Now I thought the same but after a few listens I dont mind it. I think Part the Waters is gonna be my least favourite. But genuinely blown away by this album. Almost a maturing, musically. Never ever cease to amaze me.
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We were down in south london house hunting the other day and after a tiring day of meeting "smug men in suits" went to a pub in croydon centre called the ship for a hobgoblin or two, never been there before but its a bit of a biker/punk place and they had the new NMA album playing for 2 hours or so on random! Enjoyed ever track, but the least favourites were "part the waters" and "after something".
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Echo November
I was beginning to think it was just me would couldn't get on with this song.
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Echo November
I was beginning to think it was just me would couldn't get on with this song.
Consider yourself excused, dear.
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For me the weakest track is 'Beginning'.
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The only bit I don't like on this album is the silence between track 13 and returning to track 1 on my car stereo.
Drift is going to be the surprise live track I think. I really like the 'yomp-a-pomp-a-pomp' bouncing riff that leads it along- reckon it will get the pit jumping like a kangaroo on a hot-plate :D
Weak and Strong was niggling my brain for a while, reminding me of something I couldn't place, then it hit me- it actually sounds a lot like Don Henley's 'Boys of Summer' under the brooding lyrics, and that is no insult IMO.
I struggled to connect with BDAW for a good couple of months of heavy rotation, but I grew to love it. Winter has just blown me away from listen 1 and is getting better every time. Can't stop playing it 8)
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Echo November, the 'catchy tune' and background voices really are terrible (imo)
but I have to say, I'm a little dissappointed with a lot of the songs, feels like there's a lot of fillers really. Maybe my expectations were to high - I totally love BDAW, and then when Justin said BDAW opened up a lot of creative doors I guess my expectations went through the roof.
(I have to say I kinda laughed when I heard 'burn the castle' - is this 'freedom '91' revisited or what? A rather old creative door, this...)
The only songs I don't love on BDAW are Knievel / lean back and fall. On Winter, there's a lot more that doesn't do anything for me: Part the waters, Eyes get used..., Echo November, Weak and strong, after something - all feel kinda shallow. To make things worse - the rest on BDAW _really_ got to me, whereas the good bits on winter so far are just... good... (Notable exceptions: Die trying - I was pretty surprised how on the album it sounds somehow more immediate, more accoustic then it did live. Devil - nice punch, in an interesting way. Yeah and I guess born feral really is pretty good, too...)
Anyway, as much as I still want to love 'Winter', and will surely give it some more time, I'm afraid I might have to wait for the next album.
On a sidenote, I discovered this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OALwvzmW6_o - can't really put my finger on it but something about it feels NMAish, somehow ^^
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Fair play, Joe. After all these years and so much music, it's entirely understandable that every album will not work for everyone. Remember that BDAW got a tepid response from certain long-term NMA fans when initially released, but they came around!
I hope it grows on you... ;)
That band you mentioned... quite good and certainly a bit NMA-ish!
Best wishes to you and yours.
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Fair play, Joe. After all these years and so much music, it's entirely understandable that every album will not work for everyone. Remember that BDAW got a tepid response from certain long-term NMA fans when initially released, but they came around!
I hope it grows on you... ;)
That band you mentioned... quite good and certainly a bit NMA-ish!
Best wishes to you and yours.
Thanks, mate, really appreciate it :) Yeah it will grow on me, most of it anyway, propably when I see stuff life. I hope I'll be able to afford Berlin in October, maybe, just maybe, also Leipzig or Dresden. If not its gonna be next summers festivals. Cheers!
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Echo November, the 'catchy tune' and background voices really are terrible (imo)
but I have to say, I'm a little dissappointed with a lot of the songs, feels like there's a lot of fillers really. Maybe my expectations were to high - I totally love BDAW, and then when Justin said BDAW opened up a lot of creative doors I guess my expectations went through the roof.
(I have to say I kinda laughed when I heard 'burn the castle' - is this 'freedom '91' revisited or what? A rather old creative door, this...)
The only songs I don't love on BDAW are Knievel / lean back and fall. On Winter, there's a lot more that doesn't do anything for me: Part the waters, Eyes get used..., Echo November, Weak and strong, after something - all feel kinda shallow. To make things worse - the rest on BDAW _really_ got to me, whereas the good bits on winter so far are just... good... (Notable exceptions: Die trying - I was pretty surprised how on the album it sounds somehow more immediate, more accoustic then it did live. Devil - nice punch, in an interesting way. Yeah and I guess born feral really is pretty good, too...)
Anyway, as much as I still want to love 'Winter', and will surely give it some more time, I'm afraid I might have to wait for the next album.
I mostly agree with you unfortunately :'(
What did you think of "Between wine and blood" and the others albums before "Winter" like "Today is a good day", "Carnival", "High" and "Eight"?
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but I have to say, I'm a little dissappointed with a lot of the songs, feels like there's a lot of fillers really.
You see, this is precisely how I felt about BDAW for a fair while. Took me ages for it to click, but when it did, it all made sense.
Hopefully perseverance with Winter will reward you, as mine with BDAW did me 8)
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but I have to say, I'm a little dissappointed with a lot of the songs, feels like there's a lot of fillers really.
You see, this is precisely how I felt about BDAW for a fair while.
it's also what i think, even if it is overall a fine album...maybe the length of these albums is a weakness, not enough concise/tight, so more "fillers"?
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Blimey i'm a bit suprised at quite afew peoples views on "echo november", its one of the standouts to me with that pumping curesque bassline, artillery attack drums and catchy as **** melodies, maybe its a bit to radio friendly for some? Not for me though its the hooks that draw blood, love it.
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I love the album, all of the songs but i have to confess that i find Echo November to be just okay and skip it every time.
It lacks the feeling of all of the other songs for me. Maybe live it will sound a bit better. I hope so.
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I mostly agree with you unfortunately :'(
What did you think of "Between wine and blood" and the others albums before "Winter" like "Today is a good day", "Carnival", "High" and "Eight"?
What did I think... those had a lot of time to grow on me obviously, but trying to think back - lots more songs that were just meaningful to me in both lyrics and music, in intellect and emotion, and I guess in the way both just fit together so well for me in a lot of the songs.
I also remember how very, very odd 'All consuming fire' sounded on the album, after I loved the live version so much already - odd, but interesting, kinda experimental. Leeds road - kind of a poem set to music, also experimental in a way. To me, there's way to little experimental on winter and way to much conventional catchy.
Yet, BDAW clearly topped all of them, I was blown away really. Yeah I was in some pretty special spots personally at the time, that maybe helped, I don't know.
Also on 'winter' I guess I miss the angry political aspects. OK, burn the castle, but thats about it. I'm in germany, and if anything we'd have more reasons to be angry about the fuckers (as in 'jump you fuckers'), not less. Interesting times surely, as they have been for quite a while now. All those years, albums always felt like proper responses, so far, winter doesn't really. Maybe it's just all been said already (while the bombers still go south and east), but if that's the case, why isn't that very fact mentioned on 'winter'?
(ha, or maybe it is and I just didn't get it yet.)
Listening to 'states radio' now. What did you think about the albums you mentioned?
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Also on 'winter' I guess I miss the angry political aspects. OK, burn the castle, but thats about it.
??? Burn the Castle, Part the Waters and Die Trying are all very political, with the latter two both addressing the refugee crisis in Europe from a human perspective, much like 'Imperial Day' did on Carnival.
It's interesting that BDAW should resonate so strongly with you, because on the above criteria, I would say that BDAW is NMA's least political album ever.
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for me, 'eyes get used to the darkness'. 'drifts' would be the next in line for me. outside those 2, i go back to each and every song on winter, time and time again.
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It's interesting that BDAW should resonate so strongly with you, because on the above criteria, I would say that BDAW is NMA's least political album ever.
You're very right, I was thinking the same thing earlier today. I guess the political does transcend into the personal, and into the emotional eventually. I still stick with 'there's to much catchy conventional', after having the album on for (most of) 30 km of bike commuting today, but yeah... it does grow on me I have to say. Part the waters does, strogoula does.
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I don't like Drifts...some nice sounds there but they do not turn into a song...
After three gigs I must say that the live version works pretty well :)
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After three listens, "Beginning"
Knew at the time I would end up completely changing my mind on this. Now love the powerful song "beginning". Well and truly confirmed after hearing it live and loud at Rock City.
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The version at Rockers was just terrific... not one of my favourites on the album, but it really came to life for me last night!
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It's too early for me to say what's the least favourite on the album. We've just received it last week.
I found the first half on the album very fascinating and immediately loved the somewhat dark and punchy sound. Melancholic beauty that evolves after each song. Masterpiece, again.