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Title: B-Sides and Abandoned Tracks: Part 2?
Post by: Digital Man on October 27, 2019, 11:00:01 AM
B-Sides and Abandoned Tracks came out in 1994
Is it time for another collection or is something else available?
Title: Re: B-Sides and Abandoned Tracks: Part 2?
Post by: Guillaume on October 27, 2019, 11:28:33 AM
Quote from: Digital Man on October 27, 2019, 11:00:01 AM
is something else available?

"Lost songs" in 2002!!

I would love a "3rd part" though! 
Title: Re: B-Sides and Abandoned Tracks: Part 2?
Post by: Digital Man on October 27, 2019, 11:56:19 AM
Quote from: Guillaume on October 27, 2019, 11:28:33 AM
Quote from: Digital Man on October 27, 2019, 11:00:01 AM
is something else available?

"Lost songs" in 2002!!

I would love a "3rd part" though!

Thanks, just bought the digital version from the NMA site but can't download it :(

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Title: Re: B-Sides and Abandoned Tracks: Part 2?
Post by: Viv Savage on October 27, 2019, 01:13:50 PM
Can you send me an email (viv.nma@gmail.com) detailing your order etc and I will look into the problem for you.

Viv Savage
Title: Re: B-Sides and Abandoned Tracks: Part 2?
Post by: Digital Man on October 27, 2019, 01:21:39 PM
Quote from: Viv Savage on October 27, 2019, 01:13:50 PM
Can you send me an email (viv.nma@gmail.com) detailing your order etc and I will look into the problem for you.

Viv Savage

Email sent, thanks!
Title: Re: B-Sides and Abandoned Tracks: Part 2?
Post by: Master Ray on October 27, 2019, 11:13:45 PM

OH, DM, you've got some treats awaiting you.... LS is, indeed, a fine follow-up!
Title: Re: B-Sides and Abandoned Tracks: Part 2?
Post by: Whirlwind on October 27, 2019, 11:50:49 PM
Yes, the "Lost Songs" compilation is actually one of the better releases that New Model Army ever put out. There are some incredible songs sprinkled throughout the two disc set. You will discover them. You'll also discover some clunkers, but the extremely high quality of the good songs sure outweighs the weaker songs. It's a fantastic set.
Title: Re: B-Sides and Abandoned Tracks: Part 2?
Post by: Digital Man on October 28, 2019, 09:48:21 PM
Quote from: Digital Man on October 27, 2019, 01:21:39 PM
Quote from: Viv Savage on October 27, 2019, 01:13:50 PM
Can you send me an email (viv.nma@gmail.com) detailing your order etc and I will look into the problem for you.

Viv Savage

Email sent, thanks!

Thanks, Viv
Now have the album and will gently introduce myself to it
Title: Third installment - official NMA/JS rarities CD collection...
Post by: 8 on December 28, 2019, 10:01:25 PM
Just how many NMA/JS songs do we know for certain are out there, in existence, that have yet to be officially released?  I only know of the following ones...

1.  Ballad 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCoa8V07M0U)

2.  Stoned, Fired and Full of Grace (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=534ZKLfTrb0)

3.  The Essex (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gdArPH2ntE)

Are there others?  I've been out of the loop for too many years, roughly seven, to be exact.  Please, feel free to jump in here and let me / us know which other songs are missing.  Where possible, please include a link?  Audio or visual, doesn't matter.  :)  Thanking you in advance.  x
Title: Re: Third installment - official NMA/JS rarities CD collection...
Post by: Belza on December 30, 2019, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: 8 on December 28, 2019, 10:01:25 PM
Just how many NMA/JS songs do we know for certain are out there, in existence, that have yet to be officially released?  I only know of the following ones...

1.  Ballad 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCoa8V07M0U)

2.  Stoned, Fired and Full of Grace (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=534ZKLfTrb0)

3.  The Essex (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gdArPH2ntE)

Are there others?  I've been out of the loop for too many years, roughly seven, to be exact.  Please, feel free to jump in here and let me / us know which other songs are missing.  Where possible, please include a link?  Audio or visual, doesn't matter.  :)  Thanking you in advance.  x

Turn Away has never seen official release.  Apparently they have had a few stabs at recording with the full band but it but never made the grade.  Such a shame as it is one of my favourite songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xexbc-cxYu0
Title: Third installment - official NMA/JS rarities CD collection...
Post by: 8 on December 30, 2019, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: Belza on December 30, 2019, 12:25:43 PM
Turn Away (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xexbc-cxYu0)  has never seen official release.  Apparently they have had a few stabs at recording with the full band but it but never made the grade.  Such a shame as it is one of my favourite songs.

Wow, Belza!  Hats off to you for hand-picking, selecting such an incredible performance of Turn Away (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xexbc-cxYu0), as performed by Mr. Sullivan and Mr. White!!  :D

Though I know and LOVE the song very well (I know it from the Justin Sullivan & Dave Blomberg release, "Big Guitars In Little Europe"), I had absolutely no inkling whatsoever, that NMA had ever attempted to run through it and record it as a full band.  I really appreciate you mentioning this.  :)

Although it might not have made the cut as performed by full-blown NMA, as a 5-piece electric force / unit, I have a gut feeling it might be better suited for that orchestral, symphony project their working towards.  I'm more-like hearing multiple violins and cellos, added to it, for starters.  I'm not sure how hard 'n heavy drums would add or factor into the song, without killing, impeding or stifling it, but I definitely do still hear percussive instruments in there, somewhere... just of the softer variety.  Not an in your face kind of pound, sound (from the drums) but moreso a subtle, subdued kind of guide throughout the tune, a kind of beacon, if that makes any kind of sense.  (Man, I fcukin' suck  BIG TIME, at articulating... seriously!  Honestly!  I'll never get the hang of it, hard as I might try.)  :-[

I think the guitars are absolutely perfect just the way they are, and where they are in the song.  I'd build up every other instrument around them and the vocals.  Not so much as a cushion, or to cushion to tune, but to further propel, lift and carry it.  Something I'd strive for, though, is that I'd mess with the command, intensity and impact of audible volume, for sure, that would be coming from each of the actual instruments involved, as well as the vocals, themselves.  Hmmm, this (what I'm trying to say) is so tough to relate to another, get across to another.  I'm not sure if you (or anyone reading this) can understand me here, but have you ever seen a live symphonic performance?  In person?  Don't get me wrong, I'm in NO way a musician.  I might've messed about with a number of different instruments in my younger years, played in the school band, but that's it.

Anyway, the music, like the sea, swells are recedes, in and out, lulls back and forth.  One second it's soaring onwards and upwards to kiss 'n greet the 'GODs' and the next, it's feathering downward, gently, sweeter and softer, and even softer still, all the way down, 'til you hear nothing but complete and utter silence, stillness.  That's an effect, characteristic of an acoustic instrument... I believe.  I think once you're plugged in, you need special gear to coax and conjure that kind of thing from an electric instrument.  But of course, I could be SO far off the mark with this, because as I stated earlier,  :(  I am in NO way, a musician... nor do I pretend to be.  I do love classical / orchestral music though, very, very much.

As per usual, I was a bit long-winded there, sorry.
Title: Re: B-Sides and Abandoned Tracks: Part 2?
Post by: lotus on December 31, 2019, 02:27:36 PM
Turn Away
For me, it is ok without a full band - I prefer a stripped down version The lyrics are too emotional to make a blown up orchestral version out of it!
Dawn works with a hardrock version, but please, both songs never in a "classic" string or so version!!!!!!
Title: Re: B-Sides and Abandoned Tracks: Part 2?
Post by: Master Ray on December 31, 2019, 07:57:18 PM
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Gotta say, I've always fancied hearing a full band recorded version of SFAFOG...
Title: Re: B-Sides and Abandoned Tracks: Part 2?
Post by: Digital Man on December 31, 2019, 11:40:37 PM
Quote from: Master Ray on December 31, 2019, 07:57:18 PM
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Gotta say, I've always fancied hearing a full band recorded version of SFAFOG...



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