NMA photos

[Stephanie D.]

Hi everybody,
just a quick note to tell you something.
don't buy NMA photos to that guy/girl...http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110835213712
as you can see that person sold one of my NMA photos  . he/she stole it from another website. And he/she found a customer. he/she stole me and also the person who bought the image. Because this image is very small and in 72dpi , so that can't be print.
I can't let a person make money on my photos !
I didn't dare to sell my photos (NMA or others) but now i think i'm going to do it..

it was another lesson for me...

[Erekosë]

That's a crappy thing for them to have done 

[Stoney]

Report the git to EBAY Stephanie!!!!!!!

[FireworksNight]

Hi everybody,
just a quick note to tell you something.
don't buy NMA photos to that guy/girl...http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110835213712
as you can see that person sold one of my NMA photos  . he/she stole it from another website. And he/she found a customer. he/she stole me and also the person who bought the image. Because this image is very small and in 72dpi , so that can't be print.
I can't let a person make money on my photos !
I didn't dare to sell my photos (NMA or others) but now i think i'm going to do it..

it was another lesson for me...

Stephanie, sorry to hear about that. I hope that girl won't get away with it. I would not sell my NMA photos either (although I've got lots), simply because I think NMA are not such a commercial band as many others, so it would not feel right to make money with my pictures. However, I agree with you that it's not right -and even illegal- if another person is selling your picture(s) because the copyright is definitely yours. I hope that this won't happen to you again and that you will be able to report that person to ebay because this must be prevented. Good luck!

[Stephanie D.]

when i saw my photo on ebay, i immediately contact the person who sold my image. I received an answer. The person wrote me that the photo (my photo!) have been bought in a kind of collection market (!!!!) and they have the copyright (!! can't believe it ! it's crazy !) and they don't have the intention of stealing photos from others.... that's what they did ! they told me they didn't find or steal the photo on Internet (??!!)

to contact Ebay it's another story. it's a circle. I mean you think you've found the solution or the 'contact' button to complain but i turn round and round. the only thing i've found is a kind of form that i have to fill in and send it by fax (i don't have one) i'm afraid there are no solutions to stop that thief...

I just answered his/her message to tell them i 'm the owner of the photo and i can give them a proof . i have to wait her/his answer.
there's a strange thing, it's an English person who sell stuff via Ebay.fr ....

[Viv Savage]

Actually it's worse than just a simple rip off - this is the edit I made of a band photo by Stephanie taken in Arles. It was deliberately bad quality because it was only ever intended to be used on the internet in conjunction with info about the Justin & Dean shows. This person does not have the copyright to this photo and I shall definitely make a complaint to ebay. It is illegal and downright plain wrong. I can not believe that someone would try to sell such a bad quality photo and try to pass it off as their own work. Oh, actually, this happens all the time. Even worse, Stephanie's name was actually at the bottom of this photo because I deliberately put it there. This has been cut out of the photo!

[Stoney]

As Viv quite rightly points out, it's down right wrong, wholely illegal and frankly THEFT!
Push the issue with ebay, I have access at work to a fax machine or can scan anything you need if it'll help? Owt I can do let me know? It's discusting frankly...... Really pisses me off.

[Viv Savage]

So I contacted the seller pointing out that it was an illegal print of Stephanie's photo and my edit of said photo to boot and they replied:
"Sorry? We clearly stated on our item description that we only had ONE of these photos available as it was purchased in a bulk memorabilia collection. NO Prints, copies or reproductions were made by ourselves & we have no intention of doing so - as we WILL NOT breach someone else's copyright under ANY circumstances. We are legal copyright holders ourselves to hundreds of original photographic negatives, so we know only too well how it works. We purchased this photo in a job lot of photos from a memorabilia collector who was selling their collection. We DID NOT acquire this image from a website! Nor did we develop or print it ourselves. When we purchase a photo collection from individuals, we do this in good faith that the photos are genuine & legitimate. It would seem that this one was not & we thank you for letting us know. I can assure you that we have spent thousands of pounds on legal copyrights from a well known LA celebrity photographer & again - we would not therefore intentionally breach someone else's copyrights. I hope this information helps? Thank you again. Take care. JJ"

I have reported them to ebay.
Stephanie I suggest that you also make a complaint. You can send faxes using various computer programs. I shall try and find one such program for you. Or if anyone else knows of such a program where you can send faxes?

[Stoney]

Brilliant, they sound like a right bunch of smart arses don't they? Reporting them is definately the way to go.
It might be as easy to go to a local STATIONERS and use their fax? It's normally a service they offer. Local PHARMACY's do it in France aswell I think?
I think there's program with the scanner/copier in one units that might have the fax option? I have a seperate scanner and printer and I know it's not in the option folder..... But surely an email file scan would be acceptable? They might want the document scan for the actual signiture proofing possibly? Not 100% sure, but I guess that's the reason....

[Viv Savage]

Just recieved this from the seller:
"If you tell us what photo you are referring to, we are happy to reimburse 'Stephanie Delisee' the cost of the price it sold for. This was not intentional on our part. We have made NO replica's / reproductions / prints / copies etc of this photo. It was sold only as the one we had in hand. We are copyright holders to over 750,000 original celebrity negatives & therefore would not intentionally breach the copyright of someone else. Take care. JJ"

Stephanie you should contact them directly. Message me and I'll give you their email address.

[Stephanie D.]

thanks so much Viv. I alreday contact the seller last night (via their email address and pm via Ebay) and i had exactly the same response you had when you contact them the first time. I sent another message in response to theirs  telling them i was the owner of the photo and there was my name on it but the picture have been cropped. I also told them which photo was mine and I don't know if it was a good idea but I also sent to them the original picture  where we can see my copyright on it (in very very small size and in 72dpi so they can't do anything with it) so they have the proof they 're selling my photo.
I haven't any answer from them yet ...

i'm sending another message to the seller right now...

if I have no answer i'll fill in the form I found from Ebay and try to scan it with a computer program if you find one Viv. THX very much again.

[jc]

Good luck Stephanie

Cheers

jc

[Stoney]

Brilliant result, providing they keep their word obviously! But still a promising bit of news! =)

[Patrice]

I may be wrong, but it could be the real story. someone has printed the photo at home, and then sell it with other photos to this guy.

you told me you wanted to remove all your photos from your website, I don't think this is the solution. If you take photos and nobody can see them ... quel interet ?
your photos are so great, that you can't keep them for yourself 

I think you should make more copyright stuff on the background of your photos (like you did on Mastodon photo, but with your name on background instead of "photographie")
cheers
Patrice

[Stephanie D.]

hi Patrice (et merci encore de m'avoir prevenu, car en plus Ebay je ne mate jamais donc j'aurai jamais vu. Mais maintenant je vais regarder on sait jamais
and you're right about the watermark, and that's exactly what i'm going to do for my next photos. Put my name in the background of the picture, it's better.
Thx again Viv, Stoney as well for your help.