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Sonic Surprises
« on: October 30, 2019, 12:36:05 PM »
Recently i had a walk and was listening to Between Dog and Wolf and though i've heard Ghosts many, many times i just noticed something new, that i didn't hear before.

Well, i will have heard it before, because its a part of the sum of the song and instrumentation, but it wasn't a conscious, focused listening and i was surprised when i discovered it.

So maybe it's just me who didn't hear it before, but if you have noticed something in a Song that you didn't hear before, post it here.

I think this will be better to listen and follow on headphones.

Ghosts
If you listen carefully, the rhythm is added with a voice-sound like: "ch, ch, ch" or "ha, ha, ha" and it begins at 0:58

Horsemen
This is a bit more complicated to describe. The song begins with that beautiful humming voices (who did that? sounds like a woman or women?) on the left side, then justins deep humming added in the middle, but at 1:25 there's another humming on the right channel added, and that one follows another melody!
I wasn't aware of that and found it beautiful when i heard it for the first time. It's like the melody on the left goes up and that one on the right goes down, if that makes sense.

Would love to know how many audio tracks some of those songs have.



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Re: Sonic Surprises
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2019, 02:49:52 PM »
Welcome to the world of multi-track recording.

"Would love to know how many audio tracks some of those songs have." - cthulu

Where was the album recorded? What studio? Find out what board was used in that studio, how many tracks. Most modern recording studios have the capability for over 100 tracks. (Remember this, though, more does not mean better. "Sgt. Pepper's" was actually recorded on just four tracks!)

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Re: Sonic Surprises
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2019, 03:27:55 PM »
My question was not about the capabilitys of the mixer in the studio. It was about how many tracks were used for one song, meaning how many different instruments, sounds were used. You can have one guitar, but with many tracks, overdubs recorded. For the drums there would be many tracks also, etc.

I'm curious about the mixing and the effects which were used. So in my example of Ghosts, there is a voice track over the drums, making the drum sound different.

At From Here i heard more voice overdubs than before. Maybe it's a very selective perception, but on some songs on From Here, i think there are at least two tracks, sung slightly differently by Justin to give the voice more "wideness".
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Re: Sonic Surprises
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2019, 03:34:36 PM »
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Remember this, though, more does not mean better. "Sgt. Pepper's" was actually recorded on just four tracks!
That's a good example for what i mean. For the Beach Boys Pet Sounds, i think the story goes, that they always had to record in one take, and that there was a guy in the recording room, whose part was to break a cracker at a special moment, to get that sound in that recording. So the cracker guy would be one track for me, in this example.
BTW, Pet Sounds inspired Sgt. Pepper's..

I would like to have some of you going back to the recordings, put them on headphones on and try to listen carefully..
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Re: Sonic Surprises
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2019, 04:01:46 PM »
My question was not about the capabilitys of the mixer in the studio. It was about how many tracks were used for one song,
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I wasn't talking about mixing. The board is one of a number of names given to the recording desk. That board has over 100 tracks. Now did New Model Army use all 106 tracks for every song? Most likely not. There really is only way of knowing how many tracks were used for each song -- you'd have to get a look at the recording logs.

We do know The Beatles songs on "Sgt. Pepper's" only used four tracks because that was all that was available in EMI/Abbey Road Studios at that time. (They did do something called bouncing...a term used for the process of taking one track and moving all that is on that track to another track. It's only four tracks, but you can keep using a single track a number of times.)

"Between Dog And Wolf" really is a superbly produced album. The boys sure did make use of the studio. Yes, the album is complex with its overdubs. It's an album that keeps on giving every time you listen to it.