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Re: Carnival Redux
« Reply #75 on: February 21, 2021, 11:36:36 AM »
Thanks was not aware of the remixed Raw Power, I shall order it and do some of my own research.

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Be careful, there's other "new" versions since then, remastered ones. I have 3 different versions, the original mix, the Iggy mix, then the "legacy edition" which is a remastered edition but of the Bowie mix ...

Send me an MP with your email and we can work something out for you to listen to the three different ones ;)
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Re: Carnival Redux
« Reply #76 on: March 10, 2021, 09:29:44 PM »
considering that I have the original cd since many years and the price of the vinyl is very high on this one I guess I will stick to my old copy

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Re: Carnival Redux
« Reply #77 on: March 29, 2021, 10:06:26 PM »
Finally got my CD and listened to it the first time last Friday... It was worth all waiting  :P

I’d like to say that the fact that it’s not a new album, the fact that I've already known the songs for the past fifteen years, I already had a strong emotional bond to them: that’s exactly what made the experience of listening to this redux extremely intimate. Like, sorry for being vulgar but you know, like someone you’ve known for years is suddenly fumbling with your private parts in a whole new way?  ::)

Anyway, I put my headphones on and pressed play... Water... And it happened to be almost full moon outside... I was spaced out for half a minute with a wide grin on my face and then simply burst out laughing. The purifying laughter of positive disbelief. It sounded ridiculously great. The bass and drums....... I probably wore this stupid expression of pure awe, while I kept bursting out laughing. I cannot remember what made me feel so happy last time.
It must be all the layers of old memories being dug out from dry clay, but this time the soil was suddenly fresh. It was rather a purely sonic experience. Some serious, spontaneous archaeology was ongoing somewhere deep. With Red Earth... the sound was just too much, I found myself suddenly bawling like a child and couldn't stop. I had to stop the album for a while and finish my crying-like-a-baby -session. After, I managed to behave move civilized for the rest of the album.
First I was a bit sceptical that the song order had also been changed instead of just leaving it as it was and put the extra songs to the end... But no, this has been properly thought through.

What an emotional roller-coaster ride.

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Re: Carnival Redux
« Reply #78 on: April 19, 2021, 01:16:35 PM »
Tarsier, it's so great to read your posts, thank you for that! I really can re-imaging it with your description. When i put on Island, not knowing what to expect, kind of thinking about a re-mastered version, it just blew me away..up to that point where laughter just came from the depths of the joy of this experience in that moment.
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Re: Carnival Redux
« Reply #79 on: April 27, 2021, 07:41:47 PM »
considering that I have the original cd since many years and the price of the vinyl is very high on this one I guess I will stick to my old copy

I'd say it's worth a listen! Definitely for the songs that have been added. The band version of Stoned, Fired, and Full of Grace is worth the price of admission alone.

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Re: Carnival Redux
« Reply #80 on: April 29, 2021, 02:53:10 PM »
considering that I have the original cd since many years and the price of the vinyl is very high on this one I guess I will stick to my old copy

In my opinion, if you like the original version for what it is, a damn brilliant nma album, you just HAVE to get somehow the redux-version. There's no way around that. The redux-version is such a deep felt re-working of the original sound and it sounds just mind-blowing. So if it won't be the vinyl version for you, you should somehow try to get at least a listen to the redux version. Just saying... 8)
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Re: Carnival Redux
« Reply #81 on: May 11, 2021, 05:28:02 PM »
Tarsier, it's so great to read your posts, thank you for that! I really can re-imaging it with your description. When i put on Island, not knowing what to expect, kind of thinking about a re-mastered version, it just blew me away..up to that point where laughter just came from the depths of the joy of this experience in that moment.

I’m glad if I can make someone’s day a bit brighter :)

But, re-imaging with my description? You mean, you also felt the fumble?  ;D

Funny you mentioned Island – it’s actually one of the songs that I hadn’t paid that much attention to in the past, but now…  well, I’m listening to it constantly. And nowadays, I’ve been rather glad wearing a respirator mask – I’ve been in such a good mood… and listening to whatever music while sitting in a metro, whenever a reeeeally good part of a song comes I grin like an idiot but yeah, the mask covers most of it.

And… I wanted to ask if there’s someone else here who prefers the original version of Too Close to the Sun? It’s one of my favourite songs and I wouldn’t have guessed that it would be the one and only song in the whole redux album that, to me, sounds better and, in fact very different in the original album.  I find the redux version of it somehow horrendously heavy… like, mentally speaking. The first drum beat, it sounded like someone just threw a rock into a pond of liquid lead. Maybe it’s just me, having a dark pond of cold, liquid lead somewhere deep down and wishing to leave the surface of it undisturbed. Maybe that’s the black place in my heart… :)

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Re: Carnival Redux
« Reply #82 on: May 14, 2021, 07:39:38 PM »
I just love the dark and gritty new sounding of that song, but i think i can understand what you mean. I also thought that the redux version affected this song even more than the others. It became more dramatic (if that's possible;-) ) and kind of added thereby a bit to the story. Like a very dark, stormy, windy, cloudy scene in a movie, where you can see the sky and mountains now also has some lightning and thunder..
Don't know how to put it, but i feel that that song has changed very much. And i love it. But also good to still have the old version.
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Re: Carnival Redux
« Reply #83 on: May 14, 2021, 09:58:01 PM »
Too close to the Sun, sound-wise, gives me this weird feeling of old King Crimson, somehow... :) The original one I mean... I wanted to say something else also but no... forgot it...  ;D

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Re: Carnival Redux
« Reply #84 on: July 08, 2021, 09:12:03 PM »
may be a good idea why not but as i wrote for justin s new solo lp there no reasons for a cd or vinyl to be so expensive. sorry.................will stick to my old copy