The Love of Hopeless Causes 30th

[Gaijin]

I went looking or this. 

[Master Ray]

TLOHC is an odd album for me...  I remember feeling vaguely disappointed by it when it first came out (probably because Impurity is still to this day my fave NMA album) and yet, as the years have gone on, I've grown to bloody love it (still think that b-sides from this era were better than some of the stuff on the album but whatever)  .  Maybe not Top 5 but certainly Top 10.

Were you expecting some 30th anniversary reissue?  Please clarify.

[Gaijin]

^^  Yeah, an expanded edition for the occasion of it's 30th Anniversary could have been interesting.

I was also unamazed by the album when I bought it on release. As I could only find the original cassette at the time the album didn't get much play time until I bought the CD years later.

It's a good album though perhaps some of the B-sides should have had a spot on it. Now it doesn't really matter as I can build a playlist from my rips and re-sequence it.

[Guillaume]

It's an excellent album the first four tracks are especially impressive!
And i like how the album sounds, punchy production!

[MickC]

Can somebody tell me what were these impressive B-sides from TLOHC. It’s one of my favourite albums so I’d love to hear other tunes from that period.

[Master Ray]

Can somebody tell me what were these impressive B-sides from TLOHC. It’s one of my favourite albums so I’d love to hear other tunes from that period.

Certainly, Ghost Of Your Father and Modern Times were b-sides from 'Here Comes The War' and Drummy B (Billy McCann Version), Marry the Sea and Sleepwalking are taken from 'The Ballads EP' (aka the Living In The Rose single).    All available on  the 'B'Sides And Abandoned Tracks' album if you can find a copy... 

[Winterwulf]

Certainly, Ghost Of Your Father and Modern Times were b-sides from 'Here Comes The War' and Drummy B (Billy McCann Version), Marry the Sea and Sleepwalking are taken from 'The Ballads EP' (aka the Living In The Rose single).    All available on  the 'B'Sides And Abandoned Tracks' album if you can find a copy... 

Or if you want to go looking for something seriously hard to find and bloody expensive if you do find one, they were on the extra disc  of the original vinyl release of "Strange Brotherhood"... 'B'Sides does occasionaly come up on Ebay (but usually pricey), you may be better off looking for the original 12" releases or CD singles!

Also, I was really surprised that "Knife" never made the cut for TLOHC - I thought it was great when I heard it live in December '91 at Bradford Queens Hall then it disappeared without trace until resurfacing on "Lost Songs" a decade later.

[Master Ray]

Ah, Knife, that's a tune and a half!  Certainly should have been a b-side at least!

[Winterwulf]

. 'B'Sides does occasionaly come up on Ebay (but usually pricey).

This is about as cheap as you're likely to find it these days: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/267558142411

[cthulhu]

I expected it to be worse, but i think it's not that bad of a price. At least my collectors brain tells me that. And yeah..have to listen to Knife again...love that song...

[cthulhu]

Ok..went for Knife...and it is on Lost Songs..(and a long time later... while listening to the music in the background...i resdicovered Burning Season and Coming Up..kind of forgot about these songs..

[Gaijin]

In addition there's the excellent, perhaps forgotten, collaboration with Sir Tom Jones on an interpretation of Gimme Shelter.   
It appears to have been released in April of '93 during, though not part of, the album's promo cycle preceded the Living in The Rose single by some months.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWK1F1b5uRg

I'm still curious about the version of Drummy B that came before the Billy McCann version. Was it an instrumental or did it have different lyrics?

[cthulhu]

In the sleeve of the B-Sides it says:
Drummy B (Billy McCann Version) - from the Ballards Ep - 1993
These weren't the original Lyrics which everyone liked except Justin. He decided to make it the song about Belfast that he'd been trying to write for years.

I don't know this Ballards Ep and the recordings of the song i have are on B-Sides, the ocean rising CD 1, sullivan and friends (maybe the same recording) and on the 30th anniversary concerts.

In addition there's the excellent, perhaps forgotten, collaboration with Sir Tom Jones on an interpretation of Gimme Shelter.

Is there any single version release of that song out there?

[Gaijin]

^^ Right. I didn't actually pull out the CD insert and do my reading.   

'Ballards' is surely a typo?

[cthulhu]

It seemed strange to me, but if my eyes don't betray me..it says Ballards and not only once..