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Re: Whatever makes you happy..
« Reply #1905 on: Today at 04:22:32 PM »
Interesting and worrying. Enforced by the previous comment that Ferage's lot are fascists. I refuse to believe that a large portion of the British population are "fascist", and let's face it, a large portion now supports Reform. Fascism, as far as I am aware, demands radical change and is outside of the democratic process.

Anyhow, there is clearly a watershed in British politics ahead, and more so now than ever before, name-calling will have more power than ever before: racist, traitor, Islamist, fascist, communist, globalist, etc., because of internet access.

I will say two things: maybe it is a good thing that the UK's two-horse race between Labour and Conservative is over, and more importantly, I have broken my own personal rule of not getting involved with political discussion on this hallowed forum!

With you there, pal.  I'm often in Manchester and there are often various rallies going on there.  And, my God, there are some seriously nasty scenes going on there...

I'll start by saying I am on NO side of the whole conflict.  It's an awful scenario that has been going on for too long, both sides have been doing some terrible things for a long time over claims for land that are a bit vague at best.

And both sides of the debate are posting awfully violent and antagonizing clips of the other... and those who are addicted to social media just lap it up.  Gotta have the two minute hate, eh?  A few knuckleheads shouting racial abuse?  Not OK.  But there are people on the same side who are just concerned about their country and tens of thousands of people who are being let in without screening (as the rest of us have when we travel abroad) who come from countries that regard, say, women's rights aren't quite the same. It's not about skin colour or religion, just a recognition that societies aren't the same and it needs to be addressed.

But the Pro-Palestine side... I've witnessed with my own two eyes how utterly violent and nasty they can be.  They can be bullying and vicious and, as Shush says, utterly dismissive of anyone who doesn't go along with what they say.   They dismiss anyone as 'Far Right' who might engage them in conversation that is different to their ideals.  They boast about fighting 'fascists' and scream 'Nazi Scum Off Our Streets'... they demonize anyone who disagree with them, they reduce personal identity to easy hate words and refuse debate whilst masking their faces and attacking.  Please don't disagree with me on this one, I've seen it.

'This golden age of communication where everybody talks at the same time'.. prescient words indeed.  I'm just so f-ing tired with the whole thing. Social f-ing media is fueling so much ill-informed hatred.  WW3 could be on the horizon.  I just wish people would sit down and talk.   :'(

The one thing I think they all really know, but just choose to deny – both sides – you can try your hardest to demonise the other side with hurty words, Nazi, Communist, racist, etc. – it has no effect. None is going to say to themselves, "Hey, that lefty called me a fascist!! , I'm going to home and rethink my life; maybe I should become a Labour supporter!"
The longer this century goes on, the more I feel I belong in the last one.