NEW VIDEO

[Mike]

I mean no disrespect to younger folks, I'm genuinely curious about how that happens.

The same way I and all my friends got into them 20 years ago when there was still no coverage in the media - piracy, word of mouth and older friends.

[Mike]

The video is great the song.....well it's not their strongest. I like the last minute and a half that was effective, but it just kind of is, rather than smashes you over the head. But then again the last two albums were two of my favourites. Perhaps I'm a luddite, but a bit of guitar would have given it the drive to elevate it, imo, it's like the backing track waiting for the rest of the instruments.

Still it may be a grower, I look forward to the album.

I'd have to agree with you completely on all that, except for the bit about the last two albums. There's nothing luddite about wanting guitars. Blomberg's tendency to do quite unique and idiosyncratic fills and pads on a guitar were the glue that bound the rest of the instrumentation together in arrangement for a very long time, but they were also the trills, fills and expressions that brought out colour in certain pieces. From a production perspective, he was invaluable. As the band move away from the Dad-rock sound of the last couple of albums, back to a more progressive and experimental Carnival-esque approach,  that absence will be more noticeable on this record, although I'm currently assuming they will for the most part have those aspects covered with accordions, pan pipes and all the other toys Ceri has brought in. I'm excited to hear it.

[sozbot]

Dad-rock?

 

Jeez. I wouldn't have been quite THAT harsh! I just listened to TIAGD and if my dad was even a millionth as cool as that, I'd fall over. 

[Dominic]

The video is great the song.....well it's not their strongest. I like the last minute and a half that was effective, but it just kind of is, rather than smashes you over the head. But then again the last two albums were two of my favourites. Perhaps I'm a luddite, but a bit of guitar would have given it the drive to elevate it, imo, it's like the backing track waiting for the rest of the instruments.

Still it may be a grower, I look forward to the album.

I'd have to agree with you completely on all that, except for the bit about the last two albums. There's nothing luddite about wanting guitars. Blomberg's tendency to do quite unique and idiosyncratic fills and pads on a guitar were the glue that bound the rest of the instrumentation together in arrangement for a very long time, but they were also the trills, fills and expressions that brought out colour in certain pieces. From a production perspective, he was invaluable. As the band move away from the Dad-rock sound of the last couple of albums, back to a more progressive and experimental Carnival-esque approach,  that absence will be more noticeable on this record, although I'm currently assuming they will for the most part have those aspects covered with accordions, pan pipes and all the other toys Ceri has brought in. I'm excited to hear it.

Quite like it - though can't help but think of Primal Scream's Come Together at the beginning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3vvn2qOh58

Once the song kicks on that's soon forgotten though, and it doesn't really matter anyway as the drums and melody give it a completely different feel (though I bet anyone with a copy of Screamadelica will soon pick it out).

As for radio play... not without the oblivion 4/4 beat.

Think it is a grower - fine mix and well balanced, I prefer my NMA albums more of a Carnival/NBTS/parts of High (Breathing/Sky in Your Eyes) than the straight guitar rock.  Appreciate people like something to throw themselves about to at gigs though, so each to their own.  Looking forward to the new album.

[Barty]

Dad-rock?

 

Jeez. I wouldn't have been quite THAT harsh! I just listened to TIAGD and if my dad was even a millionth as cool as that, I'd fall over. 

Well my Dad's got a ticket for Rock City in December and he'll be 68 then. My Mum's seen 'em loads of times and will be there too.....but I would never consider NMA 'Dad Rock'. To me, that's Weller solo (which I do like a bit of  )

[Shush]

As well as yourself, your wife, and your brother. A full on Barty bonanza 

[Barty]

.....and me old mates Mr & Mrs Shush too....

[Mike]

Dad-rock?

 

Jeez. I wouldn't have been quite THAT harsh! I just listened to TIAGD and if my dad was even a millionth as cool as that, I'd fall over. 

Why is it harsh? Kimsey produces to a dad-rock sound and the band's material didn't exactly run screaming from it. If anything, I'd have expected that kind of convention from Tsangrides when they made Carnival but that had an entirely unique sound which transcended and redefined the ouvre of both band and producer. Hopefully Baressi has lent this new LP the same nuance and finesse he's given to Tool, Kyuss and Isis. I'm excited to hear it and hopeful that Ceri has nudged the songwriting in interesting directions.

Not long now, eh?

[Barty]

I suppose it just comes down to people's definition of 'Dad rock'. I always considered it a derogatory description but I know you don't mean it like that, having read your thoughts. 

[Master Ray]

Dad-rock?

 

Jeez. I wouldn't have been quite THAT harsh! I just listened to TIAGD and if my dad was even a millionth as cool as that, I'd fall over. 

Well my Dad's got a ticket for Rock City in December and he'll be 68 then. My Mum's seen 'em loads of times and will be there too.....but I would never consider NMA 'Dad Rock'. To me, that's Weller solo (which I do like a bit of  )

Would your family consider adopting me?

[Barty]

If you promise to eat your greens, it's a 'yes'. 

[Mike]

I suppose it just comes down to people's definition of 'Dad rock'. I always considered it a derogatory description but I know you don't mean it like that, having read your thoughts. 

Well, all forms of music are equally valid, aren't they? I just found that to my ears the last couple of albums were painted on a rather more familiar canvas than those which came before. They sounded comfortable, like U2 or Manics albums from 2000 onwards, relative to their prior work. The whole being equal to, not greater than the sum of the parts.

Like I said at the time though, if you like everything a band does over a long and busy enough time-frame, either they aren't trying or they're sticking to a formula or you are in the grip of cognitive dissonance.

I'm not arsed whether 'Dog' is evolution or revolution, so long as there's lution. And no cheesy vocal samples.

[Shush]

I suppose it just comes down to people's definition of 'Dad rock'. I always considered it a derogatory description but I know you don't mean it like that, having read your thoughts. 

Like I said at the time though, if you like everything a band does over a long and busy enough time-frame, either they aren't trying or they're sticking to a formula or you are in the grip of cognitive dissonance.

Or maybe your taste has changed and developed over the last  30 year period, and done so in line with the change in sound and pace of music of your favourite band.

I may not have been to impressed with a song like Autumn when I was in my 20s, but now I'm in my 40s like such music very much. JS may not have been so mellow to write such a song in the early 1980s when he writing songs like Small Time England. But then, like us all he is older now, and not musically influenced by something like living in Thatcher's Britain. Most of us change a little over time.

[Toronto Popular Front]

Most of us change a little over time.
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there is some saying that goes something like - if you view the world at 40 the same as you did at 20, then you have wasted 20 years of your life.

or something like that

[ottodeth]

i love the new song, the vibe the keys portray take me back to Stuarts time with the band, an almost "I Wish" vibe to the track and then the Motown overtones on the backing vocals and the other elements. I love this song.