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Re: Dario Argento the Maestro of Thrillers and Horror Movies
« Reply #75 on: July 26, 2018, 07:53:09 AM »
Must add 'Four Flies'... to that same list, liked the opinons of it, my single viewing was a long long time and it sounds like something I might appreciate more in my 'vintage' years!

The film has been for years difficult to see in decent conditions/shape because there were no blu ray and dvd, the film was invisible because of rights's issues between Paramount and Dario's family, if i remember well. But it's really good, the best of the "Animal trilogy" ex aequo with "the bird with the crystal plumage" i'd say, or just slightly less accomplished...the one i like the least from this era is "Cat"o""nine tails" even if it's not at all a bad movie, just a more "generic" thriller. 

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Re: Dario Argento the Maestro of Thrillers and Horror Movies
« Reply #76 on: July 26, 2018, 09:19:10 AM »
I have been following this thread with interest some films i know loads i don't.Then i noticed Tati mentioned,i am a huge fan and would suggest people watch his films.Apart from the ones mentioned my favourite is Mon Oncle.........................also of interest may be The Illusionist/ L'Illusionniste........

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« Reply #77 on: July 29, 2018, 07:07:21 AM »
yes, tati is highly recommended for anyone who likes artistic cinema. you can watch his movies over and over and still be amazed. such clever, beautifully imaged, framed and planned comments an modern society and the human in it.
a short trailer about tatis films:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1541159/videoplayer/vi2485040409?ref_=tt_pv_vi_aiv_1

yesterday i stumbled upon "laissez bronzer les cadavres" by catett and forzani and really liked it. it reminded me directly of the movies discussed here and felt like a hommage to argento and giallo with a strong personal, psychedelic and wild touch.
i will now look out for other movies by that team: amer and L'étrange couleur des larmes de ton corps.
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Re: Dario Argento the Maestro of Thrillers and Horror Movies
« Reply #78 on: August 23, 2018, 07:36:21 PM »
SUSPIRIA's remake is coming in theaters next November!!...here's trailer 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvebYk2bqkI


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Re: Dario Argento the Maestro of Thrillers and Horror Movies
« Reply #79 on: August 23, 2018, 08:20:14 PM »
Don't you think it's time this thread was put to rest? Oooh, Dario Argento is a master filmmaker. Uhh, he's also a master monster maker -- his daughter Asia. I suggest you read a newspaper about what she's been up to. Her father should have spent less time making movies and more time raising a daughter to be a human being. He certainly failed in that department.

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« Reply #80 on: August 23, 2018, 08:35:00 PM »
What's the point?  :o ::)
I don't care what Asia did or didn't do, it's a thread about a director and his movies, not a thread about newspapers..shouldn't we talk about Polanski or Woody Allen's careers and movies because their private lives are "controversial"?  ;)
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Re: Dario Argento the Maestro of Thrillers and Horror Movies
« Reply #81 on: August 23, 2018, 08:59:02 PM »
SUSPIRIA's remake is coming in theaters next November!!...here's trailer 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvebYk2bqkI

Ha, was about to post that one, you beat me to it!  It does look like it might be an interesting remake...

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« Reply #82 on: August 23, 2018, 10:24:44 PM »
SUSPIRIA's remake is coming in theaters next November!!...here's trailer 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvebYk2bqkI

Ha, was about to post that one, you beat me to it!  It does look like it might be an interesting remake...

It looks almost nothing like the original, judging from the trailer...here the look is muted, grey, almost dull/washed out...a bit like some new "arty" horror movies ("the witch"?)...i'm dreading a bit also because of the film's lengthy running time (2h30) that the film will be "explanatory", talky, more plot driven, when Dario's film -and its first sequel "Inferno"- was mostly told/written by its visuals but wait and see in November! 
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« Reply #83 on: August 23, 2018, 10:54:25 PM »
.shouldn't we talk about Polanski or Woody Allen's careers and movies because their private lives are "controversial"?  ;)
I no longer watch Polanski or Allen movies. You should demonstrate some moral integrity and do the same.

And believe me, I LOVED Woody Allen and his films. But how can one possibly watch one after we know what we know of him?

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« Reply #84 on: August 24, 2018, 12:18:02 AM »
I no longer watch Polanski or Allen movies. You should demonstrate some moral integrity and do the same.
And believe me, I LOVED Woody Allen and his films. But how can one possibly watch one after we know what we know of him?

If you happen to like some Polanski, or Allen, or Elia Kazan's movies does it inevitably mean that you like, that you accept everything that you know from these people's lives? Can't you part works of arts and the people behind the arts?
 
 
Another example, because we are on the NMA forum:

Justin Sullivan is a big fan of Noir Désir and Detroit, both bands led by the french singer Bertrand Cantat...the man who tragically killed his own girlfriend Marie Trintignant 15 years ago...and Justin knows that. Does it mean that Justin should "demonstrate some moral integrity, do the same" and so, burn all his cds, vynils, concert tickets, avoiding like plague to talk openly and listen to both of these bands...because of what happened? Do you think that JS is unable to part the virtues of Cantat music from the tragic act he has done in his private life?
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« Reply #85 on: August 24, 2018, 01:46:29 AM »
Can't you part works of arts and the people behind the arts?
 
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Sometimes that is extremely difficult. Child molestation? Am I really supposed to buy a ticket, buy some popcorn and enjoy the show?

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« Reply #86 on: August 24, 2018, 09:41:32 AM »
Child molestation? Am I really supposed to buy a ticket, buy some popcorn and enjoy the show?

So logically you shouldn't  listen to, support NMA anymore because JS loves the music of a man who killed his lady ..does it mean that JS support the act of killing/murder if he loves Cantat's songs?    ;)

Sometimes that is extremely difficult.

I understand and i agree. But each person has his own limits, his own moral integrity...which is sometimes/often different from others people own's moral integrity. 
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« Reply #87 on: August 24, 2018, 12:06:02 PM »
Don't you think it's time this thread was put to rest? Oooh, Dario Argento is a master filmmaker. Uhh, he's also a master monster maker -- his daughter Asia. I suggest you read a newspaper about what she's been up to. Her father should have spent less time making movies and more time raising a daughter to be a human being. He certainly failed in that department.

First of all, just above your post a remake of one of argentos movies was announced, so you can say that argento is still "in" and alone by that fact the thread has his right of existenz. not to mention argentos influence on other artist.

secondly, your moral attitude seems a bit overstretched, but if you really mean it then stop watching any movie harvey weinstein had produced or directed. such as:
- smoke
- blue in the face
- true romance
- pulp fiction
- pret-a-porter
- jackie brown
- good will hunting
- the cidre house rules
- lord of the rings-fellowship of the ring
and hundreds more...

stop watching any hitchcock movie. he was known to be a sadist and women torturer. any movie by or with kevin spacey, mel gibson, charlie chaplin...the list would go on. any art inspired by the catholic church, or visit a church itself as a building, because it's known that they have grown a bunch of insane men in stupid uniforms calling themselves priests and molesting childs. the buildings were build by slaves.

in fact applying your morals you cannot watch any hollywood movie ever, because hollywood was build upon child-star exploitation, drugging, murder, cover ups...you can read about it in kenneth angers - hollywood babylon.

so i hope you think again about your standards and if you can logically apply them on art.

And believe me, I LOVED Woody Allen and his films. But how can one possibly watch one after we know what we know of him?

just because it's still the same movie. you don't know woody allen, you only know his movie.
and it's really totally not fair to say a woody allen movie was made alone by woody allen. by not watching it you discredit all the persons who worked on it too.

and you logic would also mean that you know about every person behind the art, that they are sin-free, because how can you watch or listen to art, music when you don't know yet, that the artist has done something bad?
and what about woddy allens movies he did before he commited a crime? can you watch them?

see where this is going?
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Re: Dario Argento the Maestro of Thrillers and Horror Movies
« Reply #88 on: August 24, 2018, 12:29:59 PM »
Well written and said Cthulhu, you summarized my thoughts nicely !   :) ;)
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« Reply #89 on: August 24, 2018, 12:35:59 PM »
thx. i was about to post a link to the asia story but then i left it. still waiting patiently on master rays carpenter "huldigung"
tonight i'm going to watch "amber". was very impressed by "laissez bronzer les cadavres" and feel that they, the filmmakers, are deeply inspired by argento
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