New Song

[Gaijin]

And in fairness to Markxe, Gaijin, you started this thread and suggested the song was out there to find as well. Not having a pop at anyone but its pretty much the same thing.

What rubbish! I told you there was a door - he kicked it in and goose-stepped you through it.

Perhaps you could offer a few words about the new song.  It's the title of the thread you keep posting in. 

[Shush]

I also first got into the band off the back of a couple of tapes a friend of mine did me in the 1980s, still got them somewhere. It led to me buying the records for real, and everything else since.

Tried to open the link to the new song, but the old laptop did not want to cooperate.

These things are just unavoidable in the modern world. like at a gig you see dozens of people holding up a recording device, then its on youtube the next day.

Even if I did download the song, I would still pay for it when officially release. In a way, I see it as my part of the bargain following a band like NMA. NMA are not a big money band with millions in the bank. They release music and play gigs to pay wages, and keep the band going. In return for my patronage, I get great music and great times. I will pay - so they can play 

[Bunny]

And in fairness to Markxe, Gaijin, you started this thread and suggested the song was out there to find as well. Not having a pop at anyone but its pretty much the same thing.

What rubbish! I told you there was a door - he kicked it in and goose-stepped you through it.

Perhaps you could offer a few words about the new song.  It's the title of the thread you keep posting in. 

Also known as loading the gun for someone else to fire the bullets. Im not sure how you can throw the hint of a new song that you found out there and not expect to someones curiosity to go one further. Thats like saying I planted the bomb. Its not my fault someone else blew it up. Well. I listened to thirty seconds of a badly recorded racket and decided Id wait til I hear it properly......But if you hadn't opened the door as it was, I wouldnt have bothered trying to find it......and then your thread would have been opinion free 

[Amandistan]

I could not really hear it too good as the recording was not that great. I do hear a hint of Seven Times though. It was hard to make out some of the words.

Personally, I don't usually do free downloads. I pay for everything. In this case the curiosity was killing me. I will still buy the song of course and buy everything that they record. I completely understand why artists don't like free downloads because it's like stealing from them. They have bills to pay just like all of us.

[Gaijin]

Also known as loading the gun for someone else to fire the bullets. Im not sure how you can throw the hint of a new song that you found out there and not expect to someones curiosity to go one further. Thats like saying I planted the bomb. Its not my fault someone else blew it up. Well. I listened to thirty seconds of a badly recorded racket and decided Id wait til I hear it properly......But if you hadn't opened the door as it was, I wouldnt have bothered trying to find it......and then your thread would have been opinion free 

   Posting links to bootlegs is not the same as saying that there are bootlegs. Don't be obtuse, you tried to make the same erroneous, circular argument in the previous post.

You can't moralise about downloads. They are illegal EVERYWHERE. You are defending a weak position and while you may think you're in the right, it's just your overblown sense of your own importance that keeps you coming back here to flame.

Now, point the gun at your head and pull the trigger.

[Bunny]

Except Im not defending it. I already said what I thought about it and that I dont download music.. My overblown sense of my importance? You asked me a question and I answered. And Im assuming that the illegal downloads you mention and are highly indignant about, youve also felt the need to listen to as you started the thread and then asked everyones opinions. And then accuse me of talking rubbish because I have a different take to your own?? Or that you know the sort of person Markxe is because of something he wrote??

To my mind, theres only one person thats casting judgements or making personal digs here. Now. I have no desire or interest in slanging matches. You have your views. Mine differ. Simples.

[Johnz]

I don't get the point you'retrying to make Gaijin.

You post links to illegally recorded music all the time. If I remember right you even illegally modified copy-righted artwork by creating your own mix of a NMA tune.

So how is posting a link to song the band played live different just because it hasn't been released yet? More importantly, how do the consequences to the band differ?

And as Drummy B pointed out, you did start a thread about the new song so it was really to be expected that someone would post a link to it.

Anyway, that's all I have to say really. Life is too short to argue with people on the internet.

Happy days 

[MARKXE]

Taping off the radio was illegal remember, however one couldn't make an exact digital copy then. 

That 'sits back and awaits comments' line is in bad taste. I know the personality type that does things like that. Who are you to post that hyperlink? One of the entitled, no doubt. Everyone else that commented on this thread was respectful to the band and showed restraint.

But that's just my opinion, and we already know yours now. You didn't even comment on the song.

Care to elaborate on the personal stuff in particular the Personality Type and One of the Entitled, you seem to ride around on a rather high horse given some of your replies above. And indeed the thread itself.
I dont normally bother but you dont even know me. Have you watched a lot of CSI or something.
PM me if vou like rather than clog the thread with personal drivel.
I won't be able to reply till Monday though as am off to the Blacksheep Festival to put some money in the Bands coffers.
As said above life's too short to argue with a total stranger on the internet, we already have some common ground in our music taste so theres a start.

Ah the song, Yes I like it but will await the final recorded version on the Album ( Which I will purchase from The Shop) as the sound was not that good to be honest, maybe it will be played tomorrow, fingers crossed.

Oh and I should have said Discuss rather than the sit back thing, just bad wording on my part, because the topic is always a contentious one on any music forum.

[lotus]

To me there is no need to continue the discussion "posting that link is ok or "never do that again"
all people involved are fans and I think, they buy all ofical stuff, going to gigs (if they have the time and the money to do so)
and the band knows, that a new song played live (or the whole gig) is offered some days later here or via other sources
The internet thing - we can`t stop that as hard core fans -  the band needs money to continue, we want the band to continue - so I spend my money buying all official stuff and tickets of gigs I can manage to go and enjoy some  live recordings of gigs I wasn`t able to go

(Taping radio was illegal? I can`t remember - not here)

[Bunny]

Now, point the gun at your head and pull the trigger.

I don't give a **** about what the discussion is. I don't come here to read this sort of disgusting bollox, Mate you have some serious bad ******* manners and an apology is in order.

I wasnt gonna bother with this thread anymore but Anna, I picked up on it too and bless ya. But stop the cussing. Sheeeesh 

[Amandistan]

So what does everyone think of the song?

I really don't understand the point of arguing about this type of thing. I would not have posted a link on here and don't think it's the best idea but nothing to argue over. Can't we just talk about the song? 

[szmurf]

OK - I assume it's a live recording from a gig, aren't people posting live recordings of the band all the time?  I don't get the issue, but whatever.

[Amandistan]

It's because it's a new song and everyone not at the gig have yet to hear it. People could just download live songs and not pay for the song when it comes out causing the band to lose money that they work hard for. I think people truly interested will pay for it but it's possible that others will not. This is the official site too.

[mudgeek]

Everybody here - hardcore fans or not - wants to hear a new song by this wonderful band one way or the "other" (off youtube, perhaps?) and that isn't illegal per ser, unless one downloads the song and makes some money off it. I used to copy stuff off vinyl on tape but I didn't sell it. Now, many of us have already bought vinyl bootlegs, and our money went  into the pockets of bootleggers. Now that's illegal.

[Master Ray]

OK... IMO, if a song is played live, it's gonna get there out on the Internet in this day and age where everyone's got a camera on their phone or whatever, one way or another.  And people are gonna watch it via Youtube and the like.  You might not like it, but it's gonna happen.

I posted something a while back about if anyone would download BDAW before it came out and the general opinion was that most people wouldn't.  Likewise with this new tune. For the record, I ain't heard it yet, but I can't deny that I might look for it.

NMA put out an official release, available to buy and people put their money down... great!

Others get hold of the officlial release for free... wrong!