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Manic Street Preachers...
« on: July 18, 2014, 08:06:17 PM »
So, my SMITHS thread went down pretty well, where do you lot stand on my joint-second fave band ever..?

The Manics... an excellent, diversive, exciting, no-two-albums-the-same, occasionally ridiculous, often funny but ALWAYS interesting band...   :o

Saw them live for the first time during the early days and I've got so much rare vinyl... rough as **** during their first gig but so enjoyable...

GENERATION TERRORISTS was the first album, kind of a low-budget mix of Guns And Roses and The Clash, an 18-track album that was a bit short of being a classic but so many great songs on it... You Love Us, Motorcycle Emptiness, Little Baby Nothing, Repeat (Both versions), Condemned To Rock And Roll, Crucifix Kiss...

GOLD AGAINST THE SOUL... not a fan fave but much better than much of the stuff around nowadays... love Life Becoming A Landslide, From Despair To Where, Roses In The Hospital...

THE HOLY BIBLE... ******* classic.  An album that takes the sheer disturbing nature of Joy Divisions lowest moments and puts loud guitars on top.  Yes, Revol, Of Walking Abortion, PCP and the bloody brilliant Faster... utterly great stuff.

How do you follow that?  With EVERYTHING MUST GO, an album that's half arena-filling Phil Spector sounding stuff with Ritchie-lyrics songs that sound like something Nirvana would turn down as being 'a bit low...' This albums a blast for much of it, but when was the last time you heard a multi-million selling album that dripped into the public ears that had lyrics like 'Here, chewing your tail is joy' and 'Killer God Blood Soiled Unclean Again'?  Not gonna get that on the next Coldplay album, are you?   ;D

THIS IS MY TRUTH, TELL ME YOURS... hmm, some great tracks but also some awful ones.  The singles are great, the rest of it, not so much. Sounds like a band who came into a shitload of money and lost their fire.  That said, If You Tolerate This, The Everlasting, I'm Not working and You're Tender And Your Tired are nice tunes.

KNOW YOUR ENEMY... The Manics version of Sandinista, by The Clash!  16 tracks of wildly diverse sounds and quality.  At least the guitars are turned up loud again, Intravenous Agnostic, Dead Martyrs and Freedom Of Speech Won't Feed My Children are fantastic!  Ocean Spray and Let Robeson Sing are also nice chilled out tracks.  Shame about the rest of it, some pretty forgettable tracks there...

LIFEBLOOD - generally regarded as the lowest Manics point, but I like it... Love Of Richard Nixon, Empty Souls, 1985 and To Repel Ghosts are great tracks...

SEND AWAY THE TIGERS... just to show I'm a contrary sod, this was the Manics big comeback album, very successful commercially, but it's my least favourite, I liked LIFEBLOOD far better.  YOUR LOVE ALONE and AUTUMNSONG are awesome, the rest of it leaves me cold...

No matter, because JOURNAL FOR PLAGUE LOVERS was the next in line... superb, a stripped down, mostly performed live album made out of old Ritchie lyrics... not a bad song on this album.  King of like THE HOLY BIBLE but a lot more optimistic in places...

POSTCARDS FROM A YOUNG MAN... a lovely album, the Manics 'last shot as mass communication', as they put it back then... not true as it happens, the next couple of albums got far more attention, but anyway... not a bad track on this album, big chorus's, hugely enjoyable... Some Kind Of Nothingness, the title track and Don't Be Evil are fantastic...

Which brings us to the two albums they've put out in the space of a year... REWIND THE FILM is almost entirely acoustic and just lovely and sometimes heartbreaking... and FUTUROLOGY, which came out last week... one of their best things they ever did, kind of 80's non-metal rock and well worth checking out...

Bloody hell, I meant that to be quite a short post but I seem to have gone on and on!  That's what you get for drinking on a Friday night!  Sorry!  So, your opinions of THE MANICS!!!   ???




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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2014, 08:26:52 PM »
brilliant brillian brilliant band

first four albums were stunning, like one song off the 4th and that was it

probably me because i didn't listen to to whole lot of later stuff

saw them at the 10th anniversary of rictchie in Dublin's Olympia and it was the first three albums mostly

but one of my favourite ever bands. up thee with nma and dead kennedys for me

have the dvd of their videos from the early days. jdb just changed his look so well



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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2014, 08:37:38 PM »
Glad you like them mate!

If you are inclined to get into later stuff, I implore you to listen to JOURNAL and FUTUROLOGY.  If you like them, get back to me and I'll direct you where to go to next...  ;)

As you said, great band.

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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2014, 09:03:54 PM »
sure thing ray. i'll hook them up and listen to them.

I've managed to get to a stage where I am putting on albums while working. must mean i am getting fluent at this shit. and i will listen to them and get back to you. i have heard a lot of the music but not to the level where i know most melodies, riffs and next song

but the best start of all is sleepflower on gold against the soul. i could start that album any time and rock


so much excellent stuff. listen to it spots. time to do a from the start session
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2014, 09:09:27 PM »
I only have the "Everything must go" album, but I like it a lot. Reminds me of a good year in my life. I probably should get more stuff by them, but to be honest, there are only a handful of bands I have the back catalogue of.  Have to admit, I am a buyer of compilations

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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2014, 09:19:01 PM »
Shush, you can get hold of NATIONAL TREASURES (a comp of every Manics single, all thirty something of them) on Amazon for under a fiver... so much great stuff there, get back to me if you want more info... such a great band.  And you're right, EMG is a terrific album... and I also had a good year in 1996...  :D

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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2014, 09:21:17 PM »
Ah, my good year was 1997, What Can I say, I am usually behind the times ::)

The comp sounds OK. Mention it to my missus when you see her again, Xmas usually shows me a CD or two in the morning.  :)

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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2014, 09:46:03 PM »
hey ray, what about the remixes on the single particularly off everything must go ones
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2014, 10:44:28 PM »
hey ray, what about the remixes on the single particularly off everything must go ones

Gotta say, mate, not a fan of remixes, but The Manics did some amazing b-sides... you ever heard LIPSTICK TRACES... a double CD of b-sides and cover versions, not a bad track there... check out Sepia, Comfort Comes, Judge Yrself, Close My Eyes, 4ever Delayed, Prologue To History, Donkeys, Sorrow 16, We Her Majesty's Prisoners... fantastic tracks that really belonged on a MSP album.

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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2014, 12:37:05 AM »
OK, as I did on my SMITHS thread here's a MANICS top 5...

1 - Motorcycle Emptiness

2 - Yes

3 - Faster

4 - Little Baby Nothing

5 - No Surface, All Feeling.

Yours..?

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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2014, 05:07:32 AM »
One of the best bands ever besides NMA of course. The first I head of the Manics was Holy Bible and was so ******* blown away. The first song made no sense. The lyrics did not match the music but it was brillaint.
The very first song  I heard contained the line

" He's a boy, you want a girl so tear off his ****. Tie his hair in bunches, **** him, call him rita if you want"
That really caught my attention, Then you had "Revol, Faster, PCP, Of Walking Abortion. Etc.   
It is one of the best albums in the history of music. Sadly they are also virtually unknown in my country.

I also thought it was very heartbreaking to read about Richey Edwards. He was such a genius yet so self-destructive and his disappearance.

I like Lifeblood a lot by the way. I really don't give a shit if critics consider it their low point. Critics are pointless considering the musical taste is subjective anyway. I love it. Glasnost, 1985, Solitude Sometimes is, It's a solid album.
You forgot to mention Lipstick traces which technically is not considered and album but compilation. Either way it's fantastic.

Sorry for the long raving post but before I discovered NMA this was my music obsession and favorite band. They are half as passionate as NMA which is not an easy task.

Top 5 (very hard)
1. Faster
2. Spectators of Suicide
3. From Despair to Where
4. Revol
5. Loves's sweet Exile. 

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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2014, 07:45:14 AM »
first song i remember was motorcycle emptiness

and i have to admit it was a mate of mine, Deck, who got me into them. nearly dragged me kicking ans screaming into it. probably 93/94. then it was full tilt. then ritchie doing the 4real thing in the interview and then it just went from there to everything must go so fast.

ray, i heard most of them. have a bunch of the cd singles from all along

some great rec's in this thread

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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2014, 06:20:21 PM »
One of the best bands ever besides NMA of course. The first I head of the Manics was Holy Bible and was so ******* blown away. The first song made no sense. The lyrics did not match the music but it was brillaint.
The very first song  I heard contained the line

" He's a boy, you want a girl so tear off his ****. Tie his hair in bunches, **** him, call him rita if you want"
That really caught my attention, Then you had "Revol, Faster, PCP, Of Walking Abortion. Etc.   
It is one of the best albums in the history of music. Sadly they are also virtually unknown in my country.

I also thought it was very heartbreaking to read about Richey Edwards. He was such a genius yet so self-destructive and his disappearance.

I like Lifeblood a lot by the way. I really don't give a shit if critics consider it their low point. Critics are pointless considering the musical taste is subjective anyway. I love it. Glasnost, 1985, Solitude Sometimes is, It's a solid album.
You forgot to mention Lipstick traces which technically is not considered and album but compilation. Either way it's fantastic.

Sorry for the long raving post but before I discovered NMA this was my music obsession and favorite band. They are half as passionate as NMA which is not an easy task.

Top 5 (very hard)
1. Faster
2. Spectators of Suicide
3. From Despair to Where
4. Revol
5. Loves's sweet Exile. 

So **** and shit are okay on this forum software but **** is not. I guess it has something  against male chickens.  :)

Great post, A... glad a US citizen loves the Manics!  Nicky made a joke about them being the least-selling band ever in the US!  If you ever get a chance to see them live, do so, they're fantastic, seen 'em about 15 times or something like that.  You might have to come over to these rainy shores for that one!

BTW, me and Shush figured out that you can't say **** but you can say cocks, in the plural... the swearbot can't figure that one out... likewise for the other c-word...  ;D

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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2014, 09:20:10 PM »
Great thread in The Guardian today, thought I'd reactivate this one...

http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/dec/10/manic-street-preachers-10-of-the-best

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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2014, 06:00:37 PM »
Allways like Kevin Carter,great feel about it.
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