So... an NMA track you REALLY don't like..?

[Intothewind]

Ahh yes this is criticism etiquette. Personally I don't mind someone slagging off something I deeply love - I still love it, it doesn't affect me.

I think I terms of this board, I personally have no reason to argue or be damning about NMA with anyone. Because this is a heaven in a largely NMA indifferent world. This dosn't stop me saying what I feel although I seem to be largely positive about NMA - but thats why I'm here right?

I have enough arguments in the real world without bringing it here!     

[Tony S]

Inheritance.  For me, the music never really goes anywhere.  I don't skip it, but I don't think I've ever felt the need to listen to that song in particular.

I guess this one is almost bordering on spoken word, rather than musical song in a way. It does have some great vocal lines, like "Mother, Father, I am your son, right down to the long thin, pointed face, and this muddled up and twisted tongue". Love that ! 

[Adrian W]

I do like this thread, simply because of the diversity of opinion with one person's favourite being in others list of their dislikes.

For me Aimless Desire has always been the track that I really couldn't get on with. It seemed to be a fixture in the set list for ages and never got me going. No others get my goat quite so much, but over 35 years and however many albums, I guss that that is not a bad return.

[Intothewind]

Inheritance.  For me, the music never really goes anywhere.  I don't skip it, but I don't think I've ever felt the need to listen to that song in particular.

I guess this one is almost bordering on spoken word, rather than musical song in a way. It does have some great vocal lines, like "Mother, Father, I am your son, right down to the long thin, pointed face, and this muddled up and twisted tongue". Love that ! 

Inheritance is a brilliant song, with fantastic lyrics. I love the way this is stripped down to the drums and voice. further instrumentation would have made this just another track and it is brave of them to create diverse work in this way.

[texaspete]

The Js/DW version of AD takes it to another level ... Gives it something it lacks on the SB record.

Another good example of this is their version of ONE BULLET!

TXP

[Sequoia225]

This was an interesting thread taken down by the petty and inappropriate comments of a select few. Pity. I thought it was an interesting thread.

Pete, Huw,  Space et al stop this pathetic bickering. Stop it now. I will not be giving another warning.

now admittedly I have not really been an active part of this board in a long time - and it definitely has changed, but I find it interesting the short memory of the board as I remember back in the mid 2000s this SAME thread (and after a couple pages Joolz got on here scolding everyone for making such comments about the music on the home site of the band - and basically deemed it inappropriate for this board. Not that I disagreed with her arguments at all...
What is also interesting is, after many gigs here in the states - watching (and being a part of) everyone hanging before and after the shows to say a few words to Justin and the boys (whoever happened to be around), and I cant imagine any of these people here EVER entertaining THIS conversation in the physical presence with the band members , but if I remember correctly Joolz likened this type of thread to something of this board being THEIR home and asking if you would really step into the home of NMA without considering how your comments might feel for them to read in their own "home".

Now, that was back in a time people really didnt get banned (that I remember and I was here a lot) (or even warned about it) nor was the board censored like it is now, and there was LOTS of heated debate about a great many things...but it was not uncommon for Joolz to come around and scold people here and there and even JS did the same on rare occasion.

Im not for censoring anything or anyone on a board like this (just my opinion) as I feel the crowd can self regulate well enough and no one is physically fighting, and thats a conversation for another thread...but I have to say despite that opinion, I am surprised that this type of thread of discussing the "worst NMA songs" is now a lot more welcomed and entertained here than it was 10 years ago, though, any general heated debate (among a very passionate crowd) is not.

[Rusco]

Inheritance is a brilliant song, with fantastic lyrics. I love the way this is stripped down to the drums and voice. further instrumentation would have made this just another track and it is brave of them to create diverse work in this way.

Yea indeed. I think it's the authentic way of JS' expression. There's something very similar with the "flow" in Smalltown England, Southwest, Family, R'n'R, Archway Towers and especially Another Imperial Day. It sounds like Justin takes a lead rhythm himself by lyrically not the drums or bass. It's like he's nearly out of control. I couldn't describe this better way...

[Bunny]

Interesting points you make Sequoia  and part of me agrees. BUT its avalid topic of conversation, if its fair comments being made. As Ive said there are songs Im not keen on. I'll never slag them off cos it is entirely personal and if by some miracle someone from the band asked why Id hope itd be understood. Not a criticism in sight. Just doesnt do anything for me.

Be a bland world if everything was sanctioned and controlled to niceties.That said there are nicer ways of saying things than have been.

[Sequoia225]

 You're from the US, thought you lot believed in freedom of speech and, by definition, opinion?

hahaha - seriously?
I said this countless times years ago - but any time any of you from across the Atlantic try to say that WE LOT believe in any ONE thing together, you are likely to be flat out mistaken. haha (Im being friendly here - not argumentative).
America is HUGE - and I would argue as diverse and divided as many of the European countries.
We are the most together in our ignorance of the rest of the world and arrogance about our country and I wouldnt go much beyond that.

or maybe I am just really jaded.

[Bunny]

Not sure of the point you're making mate??

[Sequoia225]

Interesting points you make Sequoia  and part of me agrees. BUT its avalid topic of conversation, if its fair comments being made. As Ive said there are songs Im not keen on. I'll never slag them off cos it is entirely personal and if by some miracle someone from the band asked why Id hope itd be understood. Not a criticism in sight. Just doesnt do anything for me.

Be a bland world if everything was sanctioned and controlled to niceties.That said there are nicer ways of saying things than have been.

Cheers Drummyb, I agree, as I stated, I am not for any sort of censoring and controlling of conversation on boards like this. Its part of what made me leave when the board was re-booted as conversation (and even words) were much more heavily regulated.

But I have to admit I felt some agreements of Joolz statements about this topic.

Something starts to bother me when I realize people wouldnt be saying the same thing if they were truly physically in the other peoples presence. Its a strange social thing this sort of medium creates in that way...Not to say I have not been guilty of the same in my day frequenting this board.

[Sequoia225]

Not sure of the point you're making mate??

sorry - I screwed my my posts and formatting. - again - not used to posting on here. My reply to you is in the later post. lol.
Im just making a mess of things.

ok fixed the previous post now. sorry everyone.

[Bunny]

Interesting points you make Sequoia  and part of me agrees. BUT its avalid topic of conversation, if its fair comments being made. As Ive said there are songs Im not keen on. I'll never slag them off cos it is entirely personal and if by some miracle someone from the band asked why Id hope itd be understood. Not a criticism in sight. Just doesnt do anything for me.

Be a bland world if everything was sanctioned and controlled to niceties.That said there are nicer ways of saying things than have been.

Cheers Drummyb, I agree, as I stated, I am not for any sort of censoring and controlling of conversation on boards like this. Its part of what made me leave when the board was re-booted as conversation (and even words) were much more heavily regulated.

But I have to admit I felt some agreements of Joolz statements about this topic.

Something starts to bother me when I realize people wouldnt be saying the same thing if they were truly physically in the other peoples presence. Its a strange social thing this sort of medium creates in that way...Not to say I have not been guilty of the same in my day frequenting this board.

Got ya now. Yeah. Written word can be interpreted in many ways I guess and throw away words that in a different time and place would be said differently. And you dont have the social/political pecking orders on here that exist in the real world.
I cant comment on what went before cos I wasnt here. By and large its a decent group on here or I wouldnt be involved.

I'm with you entirely. Nice one.

[Space]

Something starts to bother me when I realize people wouldnt be saying the same thing if they were truly physically in the other peoples presence.

Why do you assume we wouldn't be able to speak our opinions in the presence of those we are speaking about? Is it really wrong, bad manners, cold-hearted, whatever to say to an artist I didn't like such and such song because...? When we converse with an enteratiner should we simply do the standard twelve year old kid stuff, "Oh, my GOD! You are the best! I have every album! I have your picture on my wall! Oh, my God you are the cooleset bestest person in the world!!!"

No thanks to that.

[Shush]

Personally I do follow the idea that you should only say on here what you think about the band and the music things that you would be prepared to say to their faces. After all, this is the NMA forum, they do look at it from time to time. 99% of comments here about the band and its music are positive as you would expect for a forum made up of followers of the band.
With regards this question, if any of the band members asked me if there were any songs I did not like, I would be prepared to tell them. Nothing wrong with constructive criticism.