What can we do to help all of the refugees coming in from Syria?

[szmurf]

It looks a bit weird that the "countries" fighting them seem to be USA and the Kurds. 

Umm - Iraq, Saudis, Turkey (although they much prefer blowing away the Kurds), the UK has stepped up involvement, and now their noses in it.  Not just the US and Kurds.

[ruckedout]

Why should i care?

[Rusco]

It looks a bit weird that the "countries" fighting them seem to be USA and the Kurds. 

Umm - Iraq, Saudis, Turkey (although they much prefer blowing away the Kurds), the UK has stepped up involvement, and now their noses in it.  Not just the US and Kurds.

Yeah you're right. I admit my point was about some news and media that seem to be underlined more than the others at times.

[Master Ray]

Why should i care?

Ayup mate.  You care or you don't.  Entirely up to you, old son.

For the record, there are a lot of world issues that I don't care about, sometimes because I don't respect the general viewpoint, sometimes because I'm not convinced about the logic behind it all, sometimes because I think there are bigger fish to fry in a general world-view.  And some might fall out with me because of it.

Freedom of speech, eh?   

[Amandistan]

Because Syria is not a safe place to live and people must flee. Massive numbers or people are displaced.

Maybe care because other human beings live in a war zone and must flee.
Or maybe because you have compassion.
I don't share the same attitude as Ray. Freedom of speech does not mean to get rid of compassion.
I don't think there are much "bigger fish to fry." this is one of the most important issues in the world right now.

I am tired of people with western privilege to say this is not important.

I figured people here would care about this considering the band has written about similar topics.

[Master Ray]

Because Syria is not a safe place to live and people must flee. Massive numbers or people are displaced.

Maybe care because other human beings live in a war zone and must flee.
Or maybe because you have compassion.
I don't share the same attitude as Ray. Freedom of speech does not mean to get rid of compassion.
I don't think there are much "bigger fish to fry." this is one of the most important issues in the world right now.

I am tired of people with western privilege to say this is not important.

I figured people here would care about this considering the band has written about similar topics.

And how much attention is this stuff getting in the US?  Do people 'care' there? Are they terrible people because of it?

And I do care, I think I've said many words to that effect on this and many other threads.

One of our number doesn't feel the same way.  He stated his opinion.  I don't agree. Other opinions are equally valid.

Again, that 'Freedom of speech', eh?   

[ldopas]

Why should i care?

Because you are a human being? Because if you fell on hard times, you would hope others care? Because caring about others plights is morally the right thing to do? Because we played a part in some, not all, of why the refugees are refugees? Because if no one cares about anything or anyone, what sort of world would it be?

[ldopas]

And how much attention is this stuff getting in the US?  Do people 'care' there? Are they terrible people because of it?

And I do care, I think I've said many words to that effect on this and many other threads.

One of our number doesn't feel the same way.  He stated his opinion.  I don't agree. Other opinions are equally valid.

Again, that 'Freedom of speech', eh?   

Interesting you single out the US, MR, the biggest givers of aid in the world by far! 

Whilst it is a kosher question, me I want to know where Russia, China, Japan etc sit in all this. Why does no one ask Brazil a massive BRICS member what it thinks and what is going to contribute. I'd be interested in what other middle east countries have to say.

[ruckedout]

I don't remember saying i don't care, i simply said why should i care.

[Master Ray]

Blimey...

First off, I think it was me that fell on hard times, not 'ruckedout'...

Secondly, apologies about the US reference, still think they could do a lot more to rectify this situation...

Thirdly, and most important... our friend RO made a valid personal question, albeit one that many of us on this thread would disagree with.

Compassion?  I got shitloads of it in abundance.  I do worry about the whole Syria situation and not just what it means for Europe but the world in general.  This little blue planet is changing...

[Sheena]

Why should i care?

Why shouldn't you care?

[Shush]

I don't remember saying i don't care, i simply said why should i care.

I think ldopas gave a fair answer to that question. I would add, if someone does care, do something about it. There are several charities set up. Writing to your MP is always an option. If you don't care, don't do anything. 

[Pol]

Its very difficult to care about everything passionately, we all put our problems first family health money etc and there is lots of other bad things happening as well. There is thousands of worthy charitys out there . Yes I watch the news I feel angry, sad and helpless at times. I know this is a major issue and these people are fleeing extremists that we aren't doing much stop. Extremists who are more than capable of blowing up buses and trains yet again or worse. That's why we should worry, give them a safe home to return to and make our homes and streets safer as well

[Sheena]

Its very difficult to care about everything passionately, we all put our problems first family health money etc and there is lots of other bad things happening as well. There is thousands of worthy charitys out there . Yes I watch the news I feel angry, sad and helpless at times. I know this is a major issue and these people are fleeing extremists that we aren't doing much stop. Extremists who are more than capable of blowing up buses and trains yet again or worse. That's why we should worry, give them a safe home to return to and make our homes and streets safer as well

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[andydrbeard]

Totally agree with Pol. Everyone has the right to choose what they care about. But this issue should worry everyone. I suppose if you are really wanting to try and make a difference go and fight ISIS/ISIL.  Interesting programme on this last week on C4, IIRC. Turned it on expecting to see some real gung ho fools, but the fellas seemed very considered and sincere with what they were doing. Made me think about the guys that went to fight for the International Brigades in Spain against Facisim and which was obviously the precursor to WW2. And then I can't shake the thought that what we're seeing could in all probability lead to the next major conflict. In any case the Middle East is even more destabilised with Europe reeling from the humanitarian fallout. The Central European countries are not prepared in any way for what they are being asked to cope with. And Germany threatening them with economic measures to force them to take more refugees is not going to help. Be interesting to see if referendums were held now to see who wanted to stay or leave the EU what the results would be.  The Greek crisis and the migrant crisis just highights the differences in Europe not the similarities.  The US and Russia need to start talking seriously before anything can be done to resolve Syria. Nothing will move forward without that.