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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2019, 09:44:33 AM »
Conversation......give it some spins it';s going to turn into a classic!
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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2019, 09:58:55 AM »
It hath arrived!!!  :D

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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2019, 10:03:17 AM »
The album is absolutely beautiful. I've had to listen to it for 3 times this morning. It sucked me really in. Music and lyrics crushing deep into my soul, heart and mind. When I closed my eyes I felt like i am in this studio, you can hear and feel this wide sound and nearly see the rugged landscape surrounding them while I'm listening to the album.
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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2019, 11:43:45 AM »
Brilliant!
I think i gave my neighbours and maybe the people on the other side of the street also a good treat of listening to the new album this morning ;-)
Loved it immediately, only watch and learn didn't get me (yet), the chorus i find a bit strange melodically, but every other song was an epic story to dive into, full of surprises, familiar and yet strange but in the most interesting and moving ways.
It is an "Album", best heard from beginning to end, with the little click of my mp3-player between the songs really disturbing me though it was only a part of a second. I'm up for many more listenings when the cd arrives. And i really have no favourite at the moment....
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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2019, 12:13:01 PM »
No sign of mine here in sunny Jersey and as we don't get post on Saturday, and Monday is a day for mail that arrived into the Island on Friday.......looks like Tuesday at the earliest for me.... >:(.. >:(..

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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2019, 12:16:03 PM »
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No sign of mine here in sunny Jersey and as we don't get post on Saturday, and Monday is a day for mail that arrived into the Island on Friday.......looks like Tuesday at the earliest for me.... >:(.. >:(..

What about the download option? Did you pre-order via tm-stores? I wasn't aware that a download was included..
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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2019, 02:12:03 PM »
Bought it at Media Markt for 12,99 €.

Had a first listen on my way to work and wasn't too impressed tbh, but that may change in the next days.

Happy listening everybody!

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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2019, 05:00:39 PM »
First listen. Some good songs but hasnt grabbed me yet. It usually takes a few listens with every album.
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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2019, 07:04:17 PM »

Aw, that lovely moment when you open your front door after work, hugely anticipating a little package... and yes, your front door hits something when it's halfway open...  :D

Just finished my second spin.   And I think I've mentioned before how I worry about how a band I truly love might release a sub-standard effort, especially after decades in the music business.  It'd be sad but I could mention several bands who've done such a thing....

Thank the heavens this isn't the case here.  The first spin made me relax, we're once again in good hands here... the second got me even more excited.  They've done it again, guys, they've pulled something great out of the bag!

Now you can't give an NMA album a definitive review after just two listens. But I'll say that it wasn't quite what I was expecting... seeing as they recorded the whole thing in 9 days, I was expecting something more akin to 'Navigating By The Stars', a very stripped down and moody release, especially in view of where they recorded it.  Not the case, it'd surprisingly full-blooded in sound, maybe only a couple of out and out rockers, but there are some lush and intricate arrangements that will draw me back to the tunes.

My initial opinion?  It might be a less 'immediate' album than Winter (IMHO) but it's going to be on heavy rotation here for the foreseeable future.  I can't remember where I read this quote, but someone once said 'a great album doesn't give up its treasures easily'... FH is an album with many treasures to find.

But, hey, that's just my silly opinion.   ;)

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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2019, 08:40:27 PM »
OK, just onto my fourth listen... it's just fuckin' great.

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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2019, 09:50:22 PM »
Townsend hasn't shipped my CD yet, but I couldn't help myself and I decided to go for instant gratification, so I downloaded the mp3's.

Honestly, it wasn't what I expected. I had this vague idea that choosing a remote studio in the wilderness would give birth to something more stripped-down and more experimental. This is not the case. I haven't read the lyrics yet, and usually I have a hard time grasping a song's meaning in its entirety just by listening - I have to read the words. Hopefully, this will be solved next week or so when the CD arrives.

How should I put it... It's the first NMA album that doesn't hook you from the first. I'm writing this through my second spin of the album, so I expect it to grow a bit, but for those of you who are to used instantly love a song, you will have hard time here. Probably more than on the previous albums, you will notice that Justin's roots are not rock/metal, but folk/soul. This works really well if the songs are catchy, but alas, they are not, except maybe "Never arriving" and "The weather", and the cute but very generic (as in I've listened to this song many times before in many bands' repertoires) "Where I am".

I'll do a quick tour - a few words about each track, just the music, not the lyrics.
"Passing through" comes across as a weak first song, compared to past albums. It's hard to top "Beginning" (even if Beginning's second part is a rather blatant rip-off of "Lost" by Noir Desir - but hey, it fits). Too long, and the guitar effects are more subdued and not rock enough for my taste. I even like the Tool-inspired *Schism*cough* "Horsemen" better.
"Never arriving" is a very good and catchy song. I'd prefer they'd cloned this song 12 times over and make a more catchy album.
"The weather" is also very good and catchy, albeit a bit less than "Never arriving".
"End of days" is solid, but could have been better.
"Conversation" is one of the songs that I instantly disliked, but I think that with further listenings it will get better, just like "Peakakariki beach" did.
"Great disguise" - the 4 chorus chords are rather bland, and we've heard this blandness before. Not a bad song, though.
"Where I am" - catchy enough to be commercial, but not in a particularly good way.
"Hard way" - I haven't yet "understood" this song. There is a crescendo towards the end that doesn't really deliver, imo.
"Watch and learn" falls flat after "Angry planet". It's a B-side.
"Maps" will probably grow - so far I find it boring.
"Setting sun" seems unfocused.
"From here" - I kept expecting the last minute to be cinematic/explosive/psychedelic from what I've read in a couple of reviews. Instead, the last minute is... silence? I have to listen it again (going through my third spin with the headphones as I'm writing this), but it was quite anticlimatic.

This is probably the first New Model Army album that I don't particularly like from the first couple of spins. It should have been labeled "Lost songs 3". I will definitely listen to it on heavy rotation in the following weeks and months, but so far I'm underwhelmed. Can't wait to read the lyrics, though.






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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2019, 10:03:19 PM »

No problem, Voidship!  It didn't work for you first time around!  And, if you subsequently dislike it after multiple listens, no worries.

Any decent band who have been going for decades will investigate new ways of making music.  It might work for some, not for others.  I love NMA's stuff over the last decade but I've met people at gigs who were only there for 'the old stuff'.  Fair enough!  I wouldn't disrespect those folks for their opinions.

Personally, I'm loving the new album, and I hope you dig into it some more, there are some great tunes here.   If not, well, sorry to hear it.   :-[

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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2019, 08:23:53 AM »
Thanks Voidship for expressing your thoughts and describing how you think about it. I liked to read it and i think i can somehow understand your arguements, but i have a different opinion about them. My interest here is not a fan-boy approach and try to convince everybody else that the new album IS superb, but just to exchange opinions and talk about it.
I think From Here is really a different Album to all the others, because it is the latest one and it has all the historys of all other Albums in it, obviously. So it is normal that we all have expectations about it, have thought about it before the release, had the two songs pre-released and build up our opinions and hopes for the whole Album.
I understand Voidship 
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I had this vague idea that choosing a remote studio in the wilderness would give birth to something more stripped-down and more experimental.
and that i can relate to very good. So if i were in God-mode i would have the guys really let loose, have them make 23 minute songs, have them doing improvised minimalistic experiments on instruments, well all i can think of and love to hear.

With the first listening of passing through i thought: well, this is such a strong text why have such a "weak" framework around it and "nothing to loose" should have had bombastic orchestration and such thoughts. But i find these are the ones i want to strip down, get rid of all expectations and shut off the comparison-mode, to be able to listen to.

And yes, everything sounds kind of familiar, kind of snippets here and there where you think about older songs and think: "well" this sounds like that or this is the same approach like.." and th epromise of something new seems not to be fulfilled.
But my motto here is: "there is nothing new under the sun", everything is inspired by everything and i feel no need to have something new, because i don't think that's possible or should be tried and forced. Of course i mean that not in a universal way, if they would do an Album, completely instrumental, with justin only playing piano, ceri drumming, dean on guitars, marshall humming and michael hitting a carillon, that would be new but otherwise it wouldn't. It would be music, an instrumental album, and that has already been done.

But again, a very good post Voidship, everbody has a different approach to the same group we all love.

Looking forward for more insights and opinions here...
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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2019, 09:47:03 AM »
Got it on now. Didn't get a chance to listen yesterday. Things its part 3 of a trilogy that started with BDAW. That and Winter took a couple of listens to get it. I'll need to listen on headphones later to get some of the subtleties.

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Re: So... the big 'From Here' thread...
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2019, 10:01:42 AM »
So I downloaded the digital files when I was sent a link, the CD is upstairs. On End of Days is it me or is a false end/mistake?