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51st State
« on: August 28, 2019, 03:09:32 PM »

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Re: 51st State
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2019, 06:02:39 PM »
The film Dumb & Dumber comes to mind  ::)
Waving at the devil that I know and the devil that I don't

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Re: 51st State
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2019, 07:12:09 PM »

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Re: 51st State
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2019, 08:10:51 PM »
Discuss

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1166706175003545600

Not much to discuss really:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632

Democracy in action.... Peace and prosperity are boring apparently.

But not one word here yet about the plan to "stop a no deal", for that read "stop Brexit" by a band of remainer MPs led by Corbyn the day before by changing the law. That also is "Democracy in action". Right?

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Re: 51st State
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2019, 09:05:13 PM »
Discuss

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1166706175003545600

Not much to discuss really:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632

Democracy in action.... Peace and prosperity are boring apparently.

But not one word here yet about the plan to "stop a no deal", for that read "stop Brexit" by a band of remainer MPs led by Corbyn the day before by changing the law. That also is "Democracy in action". Right?

Well, yes it is when you don't have a majority that supports a no-deal Brexit. And I disagree that a soft Brexit equals no Brexit. I'm not a fan of Corbyn by the way and I think that Britain may be even worse of under a current Labour government but that is not the point here. Given the current situation the only truly democratic solution is a new general election and not a forced muzzling of the opposition. It's a question of integrity over self-interest. The whole thing is a shambles, really.

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Re: 51st State
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2019, 10:04:10 AM »
It is indeed a shambles, voted for by 52% of the country based on mainly migration, with no explanation on what could happen,  what the benefits or negatives are, or what no deal actually means for the country.
Ive said before that I think its a mistake but accept that its going to happen. Part of me thinks that if suspending parliament is the only way to put an end to the shambles, then lets get it done. Im sick of the whole thing now and while we have this constant bickering, we cannot move on.
To date, two prime ministers have left post trying to deal with this. Cameron, realised it was going to be a nightmare and jumped and May, got screwed by her own party (shame....not). I beleive that Cameron didnt want or expect an out vote but it was seized on by others with vested interests. The Opposition, Laboured, well they have no plan other than, to block everything and make seedy power grabs.
We will be fine in the long term, but its a complete mess and is dividing us all.
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