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Title: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: 8 on March 17, 2022, 02:56:12 AM
Hello everyone, :)

Pretty much all I've been thinking about this week -- besides the atrocities happening in Eastern Europe -- has been NMA's mini UK tour.  Would somebody, anybody please jump into this thread and share with me everything I missed earlier this evening?  However slight or small the recollection(s) / detail(s).  All morsels tremendously and genuinely appreciated.

1.  What did NMA play?

2.  What words or short stories did Mr. Sullivan share between songs?

3.  Was Mr. Gill back with the band?

4.  Did any other musical guest(s) take part as well?

5.  Any noteworthy surprises, musical or otherwise?

6.  What would you say was the best part or highlight of the evening?

7.  Any new NMA merchandise for sale?  If so, what kind?

8.  Did NMA play any new song(s)?

Title: Re: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: Ghosttrain on March 17, 2022, 08:25:10 AM
I really hope people respond to this post..............very quiet on here these days.. :(....
Title: Re: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 09:25:52 AM
Hi 8 & Ghosttrain

Will do my best...

1.  What did NMA play?
Some people are really good at remembering, I'm not one of them.  ;D
A few that I do remember, in no particular order..

End of Days
Where I Am
1984
From Here
Angry Planet
Never Arriving
The Charge
Before I Get Old
Vanity
Western Dream
Courage (for Ukraine)
Born Feral
Lust for Power
I Love the World

2.  What words or short stories did Mr. Sullivan share between songs?
I think he didn't want to get to much into current events, but saluted the courage of Ukrainians facing a terrible ordeal. It was very much, let the music do the talking.

3.  Was Mr. Gill back with the band?
No. No mention of him either. (We're planning to go and see Blackballed soon.) Dean more than held his own on guitar and keyboards though.

4.  Did any other musical guest(s) take part as well?
They had a guest bass player fill in while Ceri played drums with Michael. Apologies to him, don't remember his name.

5.  Any noteworthy surprises, musical or otherwise?
One or two songs I didn't recognise.

6.  What would you say was the best part or highlight of the evening?
Good crowd. Good solid gig. Could have listened for twice as long,  but I think they gave their all.

7.  Any new NMA merchandise for sale?  If so, what kind?
Wife got a new "Angel" TShirt. I haven't seen that design before. My son picked up From Here on vinyl, which comes on 2 12 inch records. (3 tracks per side).

8.  Did NMA play any new song(s)?
Unless I missed it? But I did hear somewhere that they are working on a new album so fingers crossed.
Title: Re: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 09:29:03 AM
https://i.imgur.com/HBJrpLK.jpeg (https://i.imgur.com/HBJrpLK.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HBJrpLK.jpeg)
Title: NMA played The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: 8 on March 17, 2022, 03:56:47 PM
Hi Ghosttrain, fiddlesticks, everyone. :)

Quote from: Ghosttrain on March 17, 2022, 08:25:10 AM
I really hope people respond to this post..............very quiet on here these days.. :(....

Although it has been a bit chilly in here lately, it is great to find that some folks haven't lost complete touch with this wonderful place; to see them occasionally choose to come back and read, message, post about things that strike their fancy. :)


Quote from: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 09:25:52 AM
Will do my best...

THANK YOU so much, fiddlesticks!! :D


Quote from: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 09:29:03 AM
https://i.imgur.com/HBJrpLK.jpeg (https://i.imgur.com/HBJrpLK.jpeg)

Snapped and shared a lovely photo of it too! :)


Quote from: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 09:25:52 AM
1.  What did NMA play?
Some people are really good at remembering, I'm not one of them. ;D

lol, me neither, fiddlesticks!  So happy and grateful you didn't let it stop yourself from posting and talking about the show, here. :D


Quote from: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 09:25:52 AM
A few that I do remember, in no particular order..

Where I Am
1984
From Here
Angry Planet
Never Arriving
The Charge
Before I Get Old
Vanity
I Love the World
End of Days
Western Dream
Courage (for Ukraine)
Born Feral

Whoa!!  A number of great NMA rarities made the setlist.  I reckon that 'Before I Get Old' would work just as beautifully performed in the a cappella style also.  It's pretty bare as it stands.  I'd rather JS' make the girls 'cry', rather than say 'goodbye'.  Wonder if Mr. Sullivan swapped those two words on the 16th?  uh, just, make 'em (=the girls) cry in a harm-free mutually rewarding great way, though. 8)


Quote from: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 09:25:52 AM
2.  What words or short stories did Mr. Sullivan share between songs?
I think he didn't want to get too much into current events, but saluted the courage of Ukrainians facing a terrible ordeal.  It was very much, let the music do the talking.

Yeah, :-\ that makes total sense to me, now that I actually think a bit more about it.  The lyrics; vocal and musical force, drive, delivery of said songs, would and do indeed relate all intended sentiments that NMA are aiming to express / exchange with their audience. 


Quote from: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 09:25:52 AM
3.  Was Mr. Gill back with the band?
No.  No mention of him either.  (We're planning to go and see Blackballed soon.)

I pray everything's okay.  This bit of the update, both saddens and worries me. :-[


Quote from: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 09:25:52 AM
Dean more than held his own on guitar and keyboards though.

Mr. White certainly does!!  I love it when he straps on a guitar, although I'm a serious sucker for all things keyboard.  I love the instrument far too much to see the band cut it out in a more drastic or permanent way.  I actually long to hear so much more piano / synths / keyboards in NMA/JS' music -- without dropping the rest of the instruments.  I'm probably the only one here who wants more piano / keyboards.  I love melody and harmonics.

I heard it read or maybe said (somewhere online) that Mr. White doesn't particularly like keyboards and I'm not sure why.  Perhaps it might be because his keyboard parts are not challenging enough for him? ??? Maybe the parts are too sparse and minimal?  Or, maybe it has something to do with the fact that his keyboard keeps breaking down while on tour?  I honestly don't know, I'm just speculating.

Heard Mr. White prefers playing guitar over keyboards.  I'd venture to guess that that's because guitars have always played a more significant role in NMA's music.  No matter, whatever DW's playing, he's terrific!! :)


Quote from: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 09:25:52 AM
4.  Did any other musical guest(s) take part as well?
They had a guest bass player fill in while Ceri played drums with Michael.  Apologies to him, don't remember his name.

Might this have been one of NMA's roadies or maybe Red Sky Coven's, Mr. Selby?  Anyone know?  Please jump into this thread, post?


Quote from: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 09:25:52 AM
5.  Any noteworthy surprises, musical or otherwise?
One or two songs I didn't recognise.

Ohhh!!!  I'm aching to find out the rest of the setlist, now! :D


Quote from: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 09:25:52 AM
6.  What would you say was the best part or highlight of the evening?
Good crowd.  Good solid gig.  Could have listened for twice as long, but I think they gave their all.

'GOD', :-\ I miss live gigs especially anything NMA/JS related.


Quote from: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 09:25:52 AM
7.  Any new NMA merchandise for sale?  If so, what kind?
Wife got a new "Angel" T-Shirt.  I haven't seen that design before.  My son picked up From Here on vinyl, which comes on 2 12 inch records. (3 tracks per side).

How lucky you are that your blood family loves the band, too!  Now that, is AWESOME! :D


Quote from: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 09:25:52 AM
8.  Did NMA play any new song(s)?
Unless I missed it?  But I did hear somewhere that they are working on a new album so fingers crossed.

YEA-ahhh!!  Absolutely thrilled about the new album update.  Apparently it's going to be recorded later this year.  Greatest musical news I've heard thus far, this year.  I'm hoping and praying it's going to be a long album.  Just like NMA live concerts, NMA albums are never, ever a drag or boring!!  Love 'em!!  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 04:35:07 PM
Yep, agree with you about Dean's awesome skills, and you're right about the extra atmosphere brought by the keyboards/synths/pianos. For me it adds rich texture to the music. I think it does work live, because he jumps between both. Of course, we miss Marshall though.

Ceri also managed to play bass, drums and a bit of electric guitar last night.

The other thing that makes it special is when they all sing.

I've enjoyed seeing Justin solo a few times, and he always mentions how he likes playing with a full band. For me it's just different - not better or worse.
Title: Re: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: jjp666 on March 17, 2022, 07:02:47 PM
from setlist

End of Days
The Charge
Lust for Power
Bittersweet
Never Arriving
From Here
1984
Fate
Western Dream
Headlights
Born Feral
Before I Get Old
Angry Planet
Vanity
Courage
Where I Am
Young, Gifted and Skint
I Love the World
Title: Re: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: MaoLee on March 18, 2022, 07:25:03 AM
Guess, the setlist is neither in the correct order nor they did play YGAS At least nobody mentoned this on FB.
Title: Re: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: Ghosttrain on March 18, 2022, 11:26:28 AM
Thanks for the info... :)..
Title: Re: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: MaoLee on March 18, 2022, 01:05:30 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/KxSyPGm/275974379-730790834951460-6528426543415811454-n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/whj6kLY)

Encores
Courage
I love the world
Title: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: 8 on March 19, 2022, 03:56:19 AM
Quote from: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 04:35:07 PM
Yep, agree with you about Dean's awesome skills, and you're right about the extra atmosphere brought by the keyboards/synths/pianos.  For me it adds rich texture to the music.  I think it does work live, because he jumps between both. 

Exactly!  It definitely works live, fiddlesticks. :)  I think having multi-instrumentalists in the band has worked, served, saved and benefitted NMA + their back catalogue (=repertoire) on numerous occasions.  It's likely been a real blessing + convenience, both in terms of NMA studio recordings + live concert performances. 


Quote from: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 04:35:07 PM
Of course, we miss  Marshall though.

Yeah, :-\ been missing MG's talent + presence as well.  Genuinely hope everyone in and around the band are doin' well + that nothing's gone wrong --- no illness or bad blood among / between them --- 'cause that would fcukin' suck, big time. :-[


Quote from: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 04:35:07 PM
Ceri also managed to play bass, drums and a bit of electric guitar last night.

Definitely want to see + hear that.  Seen 'n heard CM play an acoustic before --- (if I'm not mistaken, I believe it was during NMA's 40th anniversary online gig, filmed at the Mill in Bradford, but don't quote me) --- and CM's just as good on acoustic as well.  Fiddlesticks (or anyone else), I'd love to know the name of the NMA song CM played electric guitar on the 16th, in Chester.  Better yet, is there a clip of some sort that we could all view or listen to?  Have a minute to spare?  Care to post? ???


Quote from: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 04:35:07 PM
The other thing that makes it special is when they all sing.

Ohhh, fcukin' hell YEA-ahh!! 8)   
 

Quote from: fiddlesticks on March 17, 2022, 04:35:07 PM
I've enjoyed seeing Justin solo a few times, and he always mentions how he likes playing with a full band.  For me it's just different - not better or worse.

I'll never get to take in Mr. Sullivan's words and music in such an intimate manner as you've been incredibly blessed to have.  Those completely solo tours are just so rare, that he'll likely never 'cross the water' / Atlantic to play a string of solo dates on this, the wrong side of the earth.

I'm not one who runs or lives for money, never have been.  However, if I had whatever amount it took, I'd try my damnedest to fly (either or both) JS or full 5-pc NMA over here, to Canada, to do a month-long mini tour or something of the sort.  And 'if I had a' billion 'dollars' -- of which I also do not -- nevermind buy the beautiful man's love (=JS'), I'd bring together however many, willing bands / recording artists whose works I've ever loved over the years, to play a 4-day festival with the bulk of the proceeds going to my favourite local charities -- where the music acts would be solely picked by me.

sad, soft, sweet, heartbroken, sigh... it's nice to dream, isn't it?  All I've ever tasted / had in life and all I ever will. :-[

'It's alright, it's okay' --- by now, anyhow --- 'I'm just used to it that way'. :-[:'(

oxOxo
Title: Re: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: 8 on March 19, 2022, 04:31:10 AM
Cheers for the awesome setlist pic MaoLee!! :D     and also jjp666, :)     fiddlesticks, :)     Ghosttrain! :)

Whether you're on the road travelling with or to see the NMA or not, take care out there, everyone.  Genuine thanks for popping into this thread to read / post.  Might not mean very much to most folk floating here, but this kind of generosity, participation is what keeps me 'alive and kicking', breathing, truly. :)

Quote from: MaoLee on March 18, 2022, 01:05:30 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/KxSyPGm/275974379-730790834951460-6528426543415811454-n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/whj6kLY)

----- encores -----
Courage
I Love The World

Title: 4 clips of the Chester gig...
Post by: 8 on March 29, 2022, 06:22:52 AM
Video clips uploaded to YouTube by Joshua Thetford and cahillfra.
If anyone here has found others, please post links... I only found these four.

End Of Days (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzYPSnpS0Uw)

Lust For Power (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0NvST7o_cg)

From Here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAglxBeJ_HQ)

Vanity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP0VBg0hM-E)

Title: Re: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: Red on April 01, 2022, 03:45:08 PM
For those that are asking it was Dave Monck who played bass on Born Feral and he has done for the full tour and a bloody good job he did too.
Title: Re: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: 8 on April 01, 2022, 05:30:04 PM
Quote from: Red on April 01, 2022, 03:45:08 PM
For those that are asking it was Dave Monck who played bass on Born Feral and he has done for the full tour and a bloody good job he did too.

Cheers Red. :)  Mr. Monck did an excellent job!  If I'm not mistaken, Mr. Gill normally plays the bass on "Born Feral" when the band play the song live, because Mr. Monger gets swapped to playing the extra floor toms (or whatever they are).  Is that correct?  I can't swear on it, but I think I saw an older video clip of "Born Feral", a while back, where I think it was an actual bass guitar that was in Marshall's hands.  Or maybe I'm just dreaming it.  My mind is so fcuked up lately, that I can't tell up from down, left from right anymore. :-[

Please forgive me NMA / Mr. Monck / Red / everybody, for I'm an idiot.  I don't know who Mr. Monck is? :-\ Is he an NMA fan, or roadie, or something like that?  I ask because he did the entire mini UK tour, just for the one song?  Seems like a lot of waiting around just to play one song :-\ or am I missing some crucial detail? ???

Anyone reading this is welcomed to answer, if Red happens to be too busy to pop in to post.
.
Title: Re: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: jc on April 01, 2022, 09:35:02 PM
Mr Monck usually does front of house sound for the Band and also some backing vocals, a very nice man.

Cheers

jc
Title: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: 8 on April 01, 2022, 10:01:27 PM
Quote from: jc on April 01, 2022, 09:35:02 PM
Mr. Monck usually does front of house sound for the Band and also some backing vocals, a very nice man.
Cheers
jc

Thank you SO much JC!!  You're a star!!! :D

So Mr. Harvey wasn't there then?  How about Mr. Scanlon, did he work the mini UK tour also?  I didn't recognise the guitar tech, looked like he might've been a new guy.  Sorry, too many 'stupid questions', but the mechanics that goes into putting together a great NMA concert is equally as fascinating to me as the band and the music itself is.  I love this kind of thing, and I still would if it were some unknown band.  I love music to bits.  I love the entire process, ALL the processes... but most of it goes over my head.  Still, I find all of it incredibly interesting (major understatement).  :)

Question open to anyone who is able to answer.  In good faith.  Cheers. :)
Title: Re: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: Winterwulf on April 05, 2022, 09:18:10 PM
There's some good footage of the Frome gig been posted on Youtube, I was looking to see if anyone had recorded '1984' as I was interested to see what they were doing with it. Liked the comments from Justin linking it to the furore over the P&O sackings ( the directors should all be struck off over that as they have knowingly decided to break the law), and it reminded me just how well Justin managed to capture the bitterness and division the miner's strike caused. For all the tories who were wailing about the campaign to try and get "Ding, Dong the Witch is Dead" to no.1 after Thatcher died, I'll just say get out of your comfortable, complacent bubble and understand what the strike did to the pit villages and why she is still so hated...
Title: Re: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: Bunny on April 07, 2022, 12:34:49 AM
Yeah but that is a tough one for me as a non Tory. I dont dispute she is despised, and after all this time, it may have been the right time to move away from coal, we'll never know. The flipside was unions crippling the country.
However I cannot sit comfortably with celebrating the death of anyone, just because they had different political beleifs. Its tasteless and classless. By all means dont mourn and raise your grievanves. I dont think anyone agrees with how it happened. But celebration of someones death is just wrong. She wasnt Hitler, she didnt kill people.

Imagine the boot on the other foot and Tories having a party when say, Blair dies. How wrong is it?? Or having a joke pop song if Corbyn passes. Its beneath contempt.

I do agree that P and O need hauling throught the courts because that was a cynical cull. I hope no-one ever sails with them again.
Title: Re: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: Winterwulf on April 10, 2022, 08:26:01 PM
The deep bitterness still felt in the former pit communities is not about difference of political belief, it's about what was done to them by the establishment for political reasons. Yes, she didn't have people killed but ask yourself, how many premature deaths resulted from the aftermath of the strike, whether those who just gave up hope and withered away,  to the victims of the heroin that came in to fill the emptiness for too many young people once the pits were gone?

I should also add that I personally consider Scargill was hardly blameless too, he let his own vainglorious belief in himself as the leader of the revolution take those who put faith in him into utter defeat. A cannier leader would have fought a subtler and more flexible battle, knowing that some pits would have to close and doing their best to keep as many jobs as possible while getting the best deal they could for those they could not. As for tactics, an extended work to rule is often a much  better way of forcing concessions from management without beggaring the workforce, when management come to realise just how much of business relies on staff goodwill and overtime...
Title: Re: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: Hughie on April 13, 2022, 11:24:49 AM
Quote from: jc on April 01, 2022, 09:35:02 PM
Mr Monck usually does front of house sound for the Band and also some backing vocals, a very nice man.

Cheers

jc

DM is on stage sound;  PH is front of house.
Title: Re: NMA at The Live Rooms - Chester March 16, 2022...
Post by: jc on April 13, 2022, 04:28:19 PM
Yes sorry that was me confusing front of house for stage.

Cheers

jc
Title: Tech question... from a wannabe NMA nerd, to all proper NMA nerds surfing here.
Post by: 8 on April 21, 2022, 08:20:22 AM
Quote from: Hughie on April 13, 2022, 11:24:49 AM
DM is on stage sound;  PH is front of house.

Cheers Hughie! :)  I SO appreciate behind-the-scenes tech bits, explanations, clarifications!  They make the whole live experience even more thrilling, exciting, enjoyable, rewarding! :D

1.  Is it Mr. Monck that comes in at the 1:20 mark, (from stage left, just by Ceri) during this 'Bittersweet' clip from the gig in Port Talbot (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1iiqtpHm6s)?

Ok, please humour me.  Teach me something.  I'm being serious.  I'm genuinely / equally as interested in the technical side, as the music itself.  So my follow-up question is...

2.  What happened there at the 1:20 mark that Mr. Monck(?) had to plug a cable into what I believe is referred to as a monitor, situated by Mr. Sullivan's left?  As a someone in the audience (had I actually been there) I wouldn't have noticed anything was off or not as it should be.  If that thing is not called a monitor, then please, somebody tell me what it is called.

3.  What do those monitors do anyway?  I'm assuming they are there to help the musicians out and not the audience, correct?  How those monitors help the musicians on stage, I have no clue; however, I am really, really hoping someone will jump in here and teach me something new.  Yeah, stop laughing.  I'm serious.  I find all of this terribly exciting / fascinating! :)

Questions are open to absolutely anybody willing to share a tiny bit of technical insight.  In good faith...