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General Category => New Model Army => Topic started by: Guillaume on September 02, 2012, 07:25:42 PM

Title: Albums sales, from 1984 to 2019/2020
Post by: Guillaume on September 02, 2012, 07:25:42 PM
Sorry if there was already a thread about it but do you have the numbers for the sales of NMA's albums?


Title: Re: Albums sales
Post by: lfran on September 09, 2012, 05:38:37 PM
A fairly hazy memory is whispering that T&C reached gold disc status in the UK. Really unsure about this, though, and also no idea how many sales this represented at the time.
Title: Re: Albums sales
Post by: Stoney on September 12, 2012, 12:41:42 PM
I seem to recall a gold disc for Thunder in Studio Bijoux. Tho' wasn't having the best day having just written my car off 15 minutes before I got there........... :'(
Title: Re: Albums sales
Post by: BlackCountryMaggiD on September 12, 2012, 01:46:22 PM
I seem to recall a gold disc for Thunder in Studio Bijoux. Tho' wasn't having the best day having just written my car off 15 minutes before I got there........... :'(
I don't know about sales but I know that Joolz got a Gold Disc from EMI for her cover art for T&C.
Title: Re: Albums sales
Post by: lfran on September 12, 2012, 03:48:01 PM
Just googled and gold disc status was awarded for sales of 100,000 in the UK.
Title: Re: Albums sales
Post by: Guillaume on September 12, 2012, 05:42:38 PM
Just googled and gold disc status was awarded for sales of 100,000 in the UK.

do you have the link on Google?
Title: Re: Albums sales
Post by: lupus225 on September 12, 2012, 06:38:02 PM
As far as I remember, the band were awarded with a golden record for 250.000 copies of T&C sold in Germany in 1998...better late than never ;)
Title: Re: Albums sales
Post by: lfran on September 13, 2012, 06:41:25 AM

do you have the link on Google?
Sorry, Guillaume, I was just checking how many copies of any album needed to be sold to be awarded a gold disc, don't have a specific link for T&C sales.
Title: Re: Albums sales
Post by: Guillaume on September 13, 2012, 09:49:12 PM
As far as I remember, the band were awarded with a golden record for 250.000 copies of T&C sold in Germany in 1998.

In  the booklet of the "New Model Army the collection" Emi cd released in 2004:

"NMA have undertaken an eventful 24-years journey that has seen them sell millions of records at home and become huge in Germany"

"Millions of records" in the UK?

About "Thunder and consolation":

"A top 20 album in Britain, it also spawned three U.K. Top 40 singles and sold over 250.000 in Germany"




 
It seems that "Thunder and consolation" and "Impurity" were NMA's best selling albums in the UK and Germany (and worldwide?)
I guess that the EMI years from "No rest for the wicked" to "Raw Melody men" included were the most commercially successful times for the band, but if i remember well "the love of hopeless causes" also did pretty good in the UK charts.
Title: Re: Albums sales
Post by: Mike on October 08, 2012, 12:39:29 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about what EMI put on the sleeves of bands no longer signed to them. They don't.
Title: Re: Albums sales
Post by: Guillaume on September 26, 2013, 10:33:47 PM
up...for the last album!

According to this link :

http://www.officialcharts.com/artist/_/new%20model%20army/

"Thunder and consolation", "No rest for the wicked", "The love of Hopeless causes" and "Impurity" were NMA's best selling albums in the UK.
Title: Re: Albums sales, from 1984 to 2013
Post by: peternotbaldyet on September 26, 2013, 11:15:51 PM
So after 34 years they have the highest placed album of their career in the UK album chart. Blimey!
Title: Re: Albums sales, from 1984 to 2013
Post by: Guillaume on September 11, 2015, 05:09:22 PM
According to the Spiral Scratch issue 13 from February 1990:
"The excellent GHOST OF CAIN selling 25.000 in 1987 in both Britain and Germany (GOC's LP was released in September 1986 and the GOC's CD was released in April 1987)

THUNDER AND CONSOLATION:

"Early versions of the LP came in an embossed sleeve and managed to sell 35.000 copies in its 3 three weeks of release, proving NMA's staying power and overall popularity."
Title: Re: Albums sales, from 1984 to 2015
Post by: Master Ray on September 12, 2015, 07:29:58 PM
I'm also curious about how many albums NMA have sold, purely to see how it relates to other bands of their era...obviously, how much money they've made is nobody's business but their own...
Title: Re: Albums sales, from 1984 to 2015
Post by: Guillaume on September 13, 2015, 03:16:21 PM
I remember Robert Heaton saying in this August 1991 issue of french magazine Best that "Impurity" sold over 160 000 copies in Germany and 6 000 only in France!
 
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Title: Re: Albums sales, from 1984 to 2015
Post by: Red on September 14, 2015, 05:33:06 PM
I've got a Thunder & Consolation gold disc for 1 million copies but I doubt it's originality as I doubt it has sold this many.

It's on the USA Capitol label


Title: Re: Albums sales, from 1984 to 2015
Post by: Rusco on September 15, 2015, 04:26:09 PM
How is it, does EMI still have a permission to re-release any of the earlier material NMA performed in the early EMI era? I think some of the "new" compilations look, ummm...a bit "commercial", or at least different compared to new albums on Attack Attack etc...

Maybe this was asked/answered here long time ago but I can't remember.  ???
Please, forgive my bad memory.
Title: Re: Albums sales, from 1984 to 2015
Post by: Coumarin on September 15, 2015, 06:37:15 PM
there was a slogan and a symbol to go along with it in the early eighties "home taping is killing music" issued by record companies. think of how many times you have done that? with CDs as well?. to convince a newcomer to the band you love? this contract is in the past. maybe the band don't reap the royalties anymore. but it is spreading the music. surely, and NMA possibly enjoying the record sales from a back catalogue, to boost the future?
Title: Re: Albums sales, from 1984 to 2015
Post by: Master Ray on September 15, 2015, 07:37:57 PM
I would have thought that NMA still get paid for every album sold even if the contract has expired, after all the tunes aren't in the public domain..?

I would also have thought that they get paid more for every physical album sold than certain streaming services?

Title: Re: Albums sales, from 1984 to 2015
Post by: Coumarin on September 15, 2015, 08:43:53 PM
so why is there moaning about it? clinging onto the past?. Didn't Justin say after the fire that's about the future?
Title: Re: Albums sales, from 1984 to 2015
Post by: Rusco on September 15, 2015, 09:13:57 PM
No moaning. Just interested to ask how is it.  :)

Have to admit, I wouldn't be surprised if big companies could hold a right to use some tapes in certain media forms or get profits about them.
Title: Re: Albums sales, from 1984 to 2015
Post by: Coumarin on September 15, 2015, 11:09:02 PM
I would have thought that NMA still get paid for every album sold even if the contract has expired, after all the tunes aren't in the public domain..?

I would also have thought that they get paid more for every physical album sold than certain streaming services?





Really, well I own at least one bootleg NMA vinyl album? im sure you do too?
Title: Re: Albums sales, from 1984 to 2015
Post by: Master Ray on September 15, 2015, 11:35:10 PM
I bought one NMA bootleg album back in about 1990... and it was shit.

Although I suppose looking at Youtube clips might count...
Title: Re: Albums sales, from 1984 to 2015
Post by: Coumarin on September 15, 2015, 11:54:11 PM
with a crinkly stick....

that was the interweb back then
Title: Re: Albums sales, from 1984 to 2015
Post by: Guillaume on October 10, 2020, 02:59:53 PM
It seems that FROM HERE last year was NMA's biggest selling album ever with peaks in the German and UK charts...how many cds and vinyls NMA have sold of FROM HERE and WINTER? etc!     
Title: Re: Albums sales, from 1984 to 2019/2020
Post by: Viv Savage on October 12, 2020, 07:22:41 PM
No. It was NMA's highest chart positions. No current charts reflect the amount of sales needed in the 80's - 90's for similar same chart positions today. The abandonment of music file encoding, and subsequent piracy of every song subsequently released, saw to that from the turn of the century onwards...
Title: Re: Albums sales, from 1984 to 2019/2020
Post by: Guillaume on October 14, 2020, 09:53:59 AM
No. It was NMA's highest chart positions.

yes, but maybe in part because the cds and vinyls sales have been decent in these two countries (and also previously "between dog and wolf", "between wine and blood" and "winter") ?
Of course they can't sell  in 2020 over 250 000 cds/vinyls in Germany like it was the case for "Thunder and consolation" and 'Impurity" in the 90's...but i'm still curious to know the numbers of physical copies sold in Germany and UK of the last albums since "Between dog and wolf"..i guess many "old" fans of NMA still like to buy  vinyls and/or cds so if we are 5 000 or 10 000 faithful NMA fans around the world the "physical" sales of the last albums are maybe (more than) decent!  :) ;)