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General Category => New Model Army => Topic started by: Fatalist on December 05, 2013, 08:46:09 PM
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Just heard some of the recordings of the BDAW gigs and it caused me to reflect - WTF would make someone want to talk through Knievel as some people chose to do VERY LOUD.
Listening to that sung live is practically like a religious experience and I just don't understand why anyone would pay £20 plus travel to talk through it..
Whoever did is hopefully unlikely to be on this board otherwise perhaps they could enlighten us as to why the sound of their voice is more important than listening to the best live band in the world specially when they are playing atmospheric quiet stuff.
I know we've been here before on this subject on this forum but:
Looking ahead to the acoustic warm up set at Rock City could everyone observe some sort of audio curfew for this one and let the amazing acoustic songs do the talking? Or is that a vain hope??
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An utterly vain hope....sadly :( >:(
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Yeah, when I go to NMA gigs I get transfixed to the point of not listening to anyone around me (I don't even see them) but the band. Talk only between songs if and when the band take some time between songs...
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Really can't understand this. Why pay and travel to see a band you presumably like to then talk whilst that band are performing.
Apart from anything else it's disrespectful to the band and people around you.
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Couldn't agree more. At the Forum in London people were talking loudly during the beginning of Summer Moors, even as Justin was singing the first verse. Total lack of respect. I did see a post somewhere in another thread which seemed to suggest that singing along to songs was out of order too. Didn't understand that, as on louder songs at least, that is an integral part of the experience to me, but talking during songs, especially quiet ones is very annoying.
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A couple of loud conversations really pissed me off on this past uk tour. It's very disrespectful for both the band and the audience. at London i over heard a few drunks shouting very loudly and in Falmouth one actually disturbed the band so much that they were told to "**** off". Personally i get so involved with an NMA gig that i block out most of the background talk but sometimes it's so loud that you can't. it's totally unfair for the majority of the audience that actually do care about the gig.
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FFS How pious can you get ? It’s a rock band playing very loud music live. It’s not opera, it’s not chamber music, it is loud rock music. So loud that my wife and I have to shout in each others ears to be heard.
It is not the messiah, it is a brilliant band playing songs loud. NMA do not play in a Cathedral. If someone has the audacity to talk to a companion during your favourite / personal song AND it annoys you then please take a look at yourself.
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indeed.. how times change... 25 years ago people's main concern was argie bargie down the front.. now its talking during the gig!
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FFS How pious can you get ? It’s a rock band playing very loud music live. It’s not opera, it’s not chamber music, it is loud rock music. So loud that my wife and I have to shout in each others ears to be heard.
It is not the messiah, it is a brilliant band playing songs loud. NMA do not play in a Cathedral. If someone has the audacity to talk to a companion during your favourite / personal song AND it annoys you then please take a look at yourself.
I get your point but its not about being pious, it's wanting to listen to the band without hearing someone bleating on about nonsense. Simple.
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FFS How pious can you get ? It’s a rock band playing very loud music live. It’s not opera, it’s not chamber music, it is loud rock music. So loud that my wife and I have to shout in each others ears to be heard.
It is not the messiah, it is a brilliant band playing songs loud. NMA do not play in a Cathedral. If someone has the audacity to talk to a companion during your favourite / personal song AND it annoys you then please take a look at yourself.
We're not talking about people shouting at each other during very loud songs though. We're talking about people rabbiting away during quiet songs like Knievel or Summer Moors etc. Everyone has paid good money to see the band perform these songs, so why talk about other stuff during them. Talk between songs, no worries there. Talking loudly during the performance of a quiet song though is just as bad as people gabbling when you're trying to watch a film at a cinema.
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Nanny, thanks for collecting me in the X3. Some rotters spoiled my night. They actually talked to each other during my favourite quiet song. Yes, they talked ! The cads. No respect. I had my best party frock on as well. It's just not jolly well fair.
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The rabbiting away over the acoustic stuff has gone for ages.......... I've had a few discusions with gumbies for it. It's one thing for a quiet short convo, but the loons who wax lyrical about the Daily Mail, X Factor or traffic conditions over Another imperial Day, Marrakesh or whatever? For fux sake is it really that important to warrant pissing 30 people stood next to you? If so, why not naff off to the smoking area, better yet, buy the ticket fer gig, but stay in the pub or debating society....... the rest of us would be quite grateful to listen and enjoy THE act on stage and their live renditions of the songs we like. Be it while dancing, sitting or standing on the shoulders of like minded individuals or standing "transfixed and trans like" having a "religious experience" .... choose and delete as appropriate. It's been said a million times, but whatever........ I wonder at times, why some people go to the gigs and if they are interested in it or simply being there to be seen........ :-X
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Nanny, thanks for collecting me in the X3. Some rotters spoiled my night. They actually talked to each other during my favourite quiet song. Yes, they talked ! The cads. No respect. I had my best party frock on as well. It's just not jolly well fair.
I wanted to bite back at this but whats the point? Some folk are just twats I guess.
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Don't get me started. The 30th anniversary shows, second night in Nottingham, acoustic set... couldn't get nearer the front, was stuck near the back and there were so many people talking LOUDLY that there were certain songs that I couldn't tell what they were, thanks to these inconsiderate fools... I presume they ARE fans, they didn't show up by accident...
You ain't into the acoustic stuff? Fine. Move away from the main space, there are plenty of places to go in Rock City, and chat all you want with your pals. Just don't ruin it for the rest of us... or are you so arrogant that you think your idiotic babble (which was NOTHING to do with the band, I heard it!) is more entertaining than the band? There was people politely asking them to pipe down and getting abuse thrown back. I really thought it would kick off at one point.
I'm not asking for cathedral-like reverence, just a bit of respect for the band and the fans, but it seems like that's beyond some people. I despair, truly I do.
Oh to have Joolz to have been knocking about in that area... a lovely person, but not a lady you would want to get on the wrong side of... ;)
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Never understood why people pay the ticket price, as well as whatever costs to get there, or stay in the local area to ignore the music and natter to each other.
Evening Mater Ray :)
and Wezzy :D
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...and the fact that they have to shout at each other to be heard over the music.
The music is loud for a reason...so we can't hear you friggin talking !!!
>:(
Tossers !
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It's just bloody inconsiderate, selfish and immensely annoying. I also wonder why those who are talking are not interested in what's happening on stage...
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I did see a post somewhere in another thread which seemed to suggest that singing along to songs was out of order too. Didn't understand that
That may have been me, and was only a reference to people who are not, shall we say, the most tuneful. Like myself. I am very acutely aware of the fact that I can't sing a bloody note, so despite the fact that my heart is bursting with the desire to sing along, I refuse to inflict that on the people around me. If you'd ever heard my attempts at singing, you would appreciate the sacrifice I'm making here :)
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The only problem I have with talkers like many have said already is during the acoustic/quieter songs. First and foremost it's totally disrespectful to everyone who has payed good money to listen to live music. Surely what you've got to say is not that important that you have to broadcast it to all around you right that second. You've only got to wait a matter of minutes and the song will end or at least cup your hand around the appropriate lug hole and talk into it, instead of shouting it.
Maybe more venues like Robin 2, Bilston should have signs around asking for people not to talk during the music or vacate to the bar area. Venues could definitely do more.
I recently went to see a band play a live soundtrack to a film and two women repeatedly chatted all the way through, would you do that a cinema? I don't think so, in fact you'd probably get asked to leave.
I observed a couple of blokes at a gig who chatted all the through and did not look towards the stage at any point. So they paid £15 for a ticket to buy over priced watered down beer to have a chat, doesn't sound like a good night to me!
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The only problem I have with talkers like many have said already is during the acoustic/quieter songs. First and foremost it's totally disrespectful to everyone who has payed good money to listen to live music. Surely what you've got to say is not that important that you have to broadcast it to all around you right that second. You've only got to wait a matter of minutes and the song will end or at least cup your hand around the appropriate lug hole and talk into it, instead of shouting it.
Maybe more venues like Robin 2, Bilston should have signs around asking for people not to talk during the music or vacate to the bar area. Venues could definitely do more.
I recently went to see a band play a live soundtrack to a film and two women repeatedly chatted all the way through, would you do that a cinema? I don't think so, in fact you'd probably get asked to leave.
I observed a couple of blokes at a gig who chatted all the through and did not look towards the stage at any point. So they paid £15 for a ticket to buy over priced watered down beer to have a chat, doesn't sound like a good night to me!
unfortunatley the world seems to be getting full of people who don't even have the common sense / intelligence of what comes out of the rear end of my dog! (but don't get me started on that)
i would take this further, it also seems that lots of people who go to all sorts events seem to spend their whole time there filming / photographing it for enjoyment later rather than enjoying the moment they are having then and there. I know modern technology allows for this, but i still don't get it.
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i would take this further, it also seems that lots of people who go to all sorts events seem to spend their whole time there filming / photographing it for enjoyment later rather than enjoying the moment they are having then and there. I know modern technology allows for this, but i still don't get it.
Totally agree mate - I have no problem with folks filming (as long as they don't hold the camera in the air directly in front of me so I see that and a wobbly hand rather than the band) but I cannot for the life of me understand why they sacrifice the present moment for the future.
Back on the subject of talking, one of the best gig experiences I had was Mercury Rev at the Leadmill. Total silence and respect through the whole gig. Granted, the music was atmospheric and didn't lend itself to dancing etc but it was one of the very few gigs I've been to at which I could just concentrate 100% on the music - absolute bliss. No-one throwing beer across the crowd, no streams of people pushing past, no irritating chatting. Probably anathema to a lot of people but perfect for me. Don't get me wrong, I've been in the pit for NMA gigs for 23 years and love it. I've sang along to the full band songs with the best of 'em but when it comes to the ballads, people should shut up and listen. If they don't know/like the songs as they impatiently wait for Vengeance, fine. But please be quiet because most of us do love the ballads as much as the other stuff.
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Your not wrong with regards to the camera phones. Savages have signs up at their gigs which read;
"A NOTE FROM SAVAGES
OUR GOAL IS TO DISCOVER BETTER WAYS OF LIVING AND EXPERIENCING MUSIC
WE BELIEVE THAT THE USE OF PHONES TO FILM AND TAKE PICTURES DURING A GIG PREVENTS ALL OF US FROM TOTALLY IMMERSING OURSELVES
LET'S MAKE THIS EVENING SPECIAL
SILENCE YOUR PHONES"
and I read the other day that Yeah Yeah Yeahs had signs up at their New York show which said 'put that shit away' a little more to the point.
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I did see a post somewhere in another thread which seemed to suggest that singing along to songs was out of order too. Didn't understand that
That may have been me, and was only a reference to people who are not, shall we say, the most tuneful. Like myself. I am very acutely aware of the fact that I can't sing a bloody note, so despite the fact that my heart is bursting with the desire to sing along, I refuse to inflict that on the people around me. If you'd ever heard my attempts at singing, you would appreciate the sacrifice I'm making here :)
Ha ha, I see what you're saying ! But I doubt that even your out of tune voice would drown out the PA during the louder songs. I suppose it depends on where you're standing in the venue and the noise levels. I mean, I'm definitely not the greatest singer either, but do try to stay roughly in tune. When I can't hit a note that Justin is singing I drop down to something lower but hopefully reasonably harmonious ! I'm sure I'm not always successful, but the way I see it, I can barely hear what's coming out of my gob over the music, so hopefully the people next to me can't really either. And if they're singing along too, then it doesn't really matter. I'd much rather hear someone attempting to sing along to something they really love, with passion, even if they are hopelessly out of tune (especially during the loud ones when it doesn't matter) than having to listen to people talking about totally unrelated stuff during quiet songs, which is totally distracting, or even calling out for other songs when the quiet one is being sung ! I'd say if your heart is bursting with desire to sing along, cos you love those songs so much, then go for it ! Or maybe I just haven't heard you yet ;)
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Totally what he... said!
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If you want to chat your way through a gig,may I suggest you do it at one of Joolz's gigs. She loves a conversation....I dare you.
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I don't have much of a problem with people recording stuff on their phones, but if you're concentrating on getting the moment on that little screen, all shaky and tinny-sounding, you're not actually living the moment...
:o
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couldnt daz scanners come out and say his piece al a JS shows??
mersey exile...you're talking bollox
:D
TXP
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Here's a new one: I'm at the gig right now, JS & DW are playing Dawn...and the couple behind me. Are yacking all the way through.......FFS!
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Kill them. Kill them both. You have a whole room full of people who were 'at the bar' in that exact moment...
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Here's a new one: I'm at the gig right now, JS & DW are playing Dawn...and the couple behind me. Are yacking all the way through.......FFS!
Photo !
;D
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Here's a new one: I'm at the gig right now, JS & DW are playing Dawn...and the couple behind me. Are yacking all the way through.......FFS!
Photo !
;D
;D I suppose there's some irony in the fact I was messaging during a gig about people talking and not paying attention to the performance! Just thought it'd be a better way of letting off steam than starting the inevitable argument!
Luckily they moved on at half time......to a pub I assume.. ;D
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I heard someone ask his mate if he'd farted during one song. I was willing to tolerate that..the talking that is ;)
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I don't mind people taking photo's at gigs. I always like to get a couple of pictures just as a memento.
I do feel that people who stand there with their phones recording a gig are missing the point a bit... but saying that I am always the first to go to youtube and watch the videos people have uploaded from concerts so I can't really moan about that can I?
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I don't mind people taking photo's at gigs. I always like to get a couple of pictures just as a memento.
I do feel that people who stand there with their phones recording a gig are missing the point a bit... but saying that I am always the first to go to youtube and watch the videos people have uploaded from concerts so I can't really moan about that can I?
Good point
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Once the music starts only person i talk to is when ordering more beer ;D