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General Category => Everything Else => Topic started by: Heno on April 07, 2014, 08:03:23 PM
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i think its time to make a move. i'm not in anyway nationalist and do not really identify with any culture, creed or custom. i don't want to go to some plans trees by the sea places o anything like that. i wanna go somewhere for a reason.
my mate has the idea to buy 100 acres of land in maine, build a cabin in the middle and live off it. i don't want anything like that either.
my bird would go anywhere to be honest.
london, france, new zealand, cape cod are all in the mix of places i love.
so tell me; where would you go and why? not to convince me. i just want to understand what people would consider as the influencing factors.
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Beautiful idea, Heno.
To Zew Zealand to Codfish Island. Would like to see kakapos for once in my life.
Faer Islands are maybe the next real plan to fly. The good talent in print making and fine art history there is interesting. It's a beautiful place too.
Iceland, Siberia, Japan, Africa, South America and Alaska inspire too.
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Come to Scotland mate get somewhere just far enough outside 1 of the city's given you the best of both worlds beautiful countryside living and what the city has to offer in terms of shopping nightlife culture etc
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yeah, rusco. I left Alaska out purely by accident. I've been to the north west like Washington and British Columbia. Worked some folks from Alaska and it sounds so great. I know my way around Africa. That would be in the mix. At the same time I think my source of income conflicts with that trip at the moment. If i went to Africa to live then I would focus on helping them develop their independence and keep Africa for the african tribes. Not there yet.
and Pol. I know Scotland. I am a big fan. but not much difference with here. Except, our whiskey has an E in it and is so much better.......
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Sorry Heno, is this where would you go to visit, or where you would go to live ?
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oh, definitely live.
although, reasons to visit might very well be good reasons to live there.
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Edinburgh for sure. Just love it, always have.
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either Cornwall or Black Forest, Germany. Both simply on the basis of having visited a number of times in my life, fell in love with the areas, they appeal to the nature lover I me. Failing that Utopia!!!!!
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Estonia 👍
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Estonia 👍
Been few times there in Tallinn. It's always a refreshing trip to go there. Old town for sure and their Kumu Museum are absolutely fantastic. Mustamäe Tori (that's written in Finnish) which means "the blackhill market"; is known to be a place number one if you're looking for pirate copies of films and cd's. Once when I was working in a firm specialized in releasing films and vids in Helsinki, I remember one movie which could be found as a pirate version from Mustamäe Tori the next day after its official releasing date in Europe.
There's perhaps no other city in the world where you could get as great morning dinner at 4:00 AM with 10 points service. If you go to right place...
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Having just moved house, I think I've only got one more move in me. Anywhere in the Derbyshire countryside would do me fine, or possibly the Yorkshire coast. Small town or village will do. Either still close enough to get back to where I'm from for visiting people. Have to say, the appeal with both is to get away from a big city, into the beautiful countryside both have.
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Edinburgh
i love scotland and if it was an urban area then certainly edinburgh stands out. but dublin and edinburgh are very similar. climate is the same, culture is similar, people are nice enough. its not different enough to warrant a change. but grey to visit which i get to do fairly regular as we have a client there. some very good friends live there also.
Cornwall or Black Forest, Germany
now we're talking. i like cornwall but not enough to live there. my wife's aunt lives down beside the lizard. its a beautiful place, with great people and culture. i could probably find the same experience if i moved to the south west of ireland. if i try to be a tourist where i live now, and really try to appreciate the sights, the sounds and the culture then it would not be dissimilar enough to warrant a move.
but the black forest......now we're are talking. i love that area. i love bavaria and munchen too. i like how mature the society is. i love the people. if i was heading in that direction then i think i would choose luzern. i think it is just so beautiful and no matter what way you go the scenery is some of the most inspiring. the train ride from luzern to northern italy is just incredible. the one from munchen down to basel too. my wife lived in geneva for 5 or 6 years working for the ill. i spent some time there and travelling around. i think what i like most is the wether. the season really are seasons. lovely and warm and calm in summer, crisp and cold in winter. and with the infrastructure to cope with most things thrown at them. hmmmmm........central europe is on the scorecard.
estonia & tallinn
cool place alright. we loved tallinn when we were there, right Deck. The people were cool. I am not sure if it has changed much since our time there. the food was exquisite. we went to restaurants and enjoyed some incredible feasts for want of a better. but when you are only eating once a day, and there for drinking and socialising, then it had better be good. i'd say tallinn left an indelible mark on all of us on that trip. i think if there was a gig there then it would be very worthwhile returning.
not sure about the broader estonia as a destination. i recall the landscape. it was stunning. but perhaps it is a little remote.
Anna O' I think you would love it in terms of the outdoors.
derbyshire or yorkshire coast
never realised just how huge yorkshire is. like wow. so somewhere just south of whitby. i think that is a wonderful part of the world and such nice towns and villages and people. but again, i am challenged by what difference it would make to my life when i see so many similarities to where i am now.
and if we were to broaden it a little. i could move to africa or south america. i think these would be high on the list before america (although new england and cape cod are cool as anywhere), south east asia or oz.
we have a very limited time on this rock. it is messed up because constant threat to you and yours based on greed and opportunism but i am not a hippy and so could not live in total isolation. so here can i go? i'd love to here what Justin and Dean and the other lads think about the places they have been and where they like it best in he context of permanency, not just venues and crowds.
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Depends what you're after really:
for culture, liveliness, art (in every sense and form), edginess and downright 'cool' (you know, what London used to be before this and previous governments turned into the playground for millionaire cunts it's become in the last 5/10 years, a process fortunately not complete yet but sadly not far off from completion now... and I know cos I live here and see the cancer spreading every day): Berlin first and foremost, and on a smaller scale Copenhagen, certainly 2 of my favourite cities in the world.
for nature: Iceland or Norway (West Coast especially), or - again, on a smaller scale (not meaning to take anything away from it but it simply doesn't compare in my opinion) - Scotland.
For the social system and general 'advancedness' (is that even a word?) of the place: Norway; failing that Denmark and Sweden have a pretty good system in place too.
trying to get the best of all the above elements, I don't know... Oslo and Reykjavik (albeit the latter is rather small in comparison with most other European cities) are fairly lively places and nature is never far away (and Oslo has the added benefit of the good social system), Copenhagen is cool and offers a good standard of living etc...
Of course you may have noticed they're all considered to be fairly 'cold' places - sorry but that's what I like, if you want heat, sun, sweat, sandals, palm trees with monkeys swinging off them and all that shit you're asking the wrong person ;)
Me, despite everything I'm still fairly happy to be a (East) Londoner for the moment, though I'm beginning to see a time in the future (and not even too distant) when I may not be anymore; so if you find a good place let me know, cos I might be asking the same question in a few years time ;)
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Adding to my earlier post; I'm not so much into cities anymore these days. But with smaller amounts, yes. The best place now to be is countryside after all. Middle of a forest. Animals, plants, trees and a chance to see how seasons change. Occasional neighbour or a farmer or someone picking berries or mushrooms. Maybe it's even the one who come over once in 4 months to empty your septitank you can talk to.
But on the other hand, when I & my wife need something new to see we fly or sail somewhere. Buy tickets to NMA concerts. Then it's nice to go to Huxley's at Berlin, Copenhagen, Concorde2 at Brighton, Forum in London, or go to Stockholm.
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Good question I have many places if money was no object that I would love to live there so my list is this
For the Weather I can't stand cold so in the US I start with San Diego California one of the the most beautiful places and the weather is a constant 70 all year round New Mexico that is more of a family Tree thing as my great Grandmother was native Navajo and that is where she came from I can learn a lot about my family tree. to fill in the gaps.
Outside the US. Well I have been to Thailand twice and my friend lives there now a beautiful place and it has a low cost of living But not in the city of Bangkok but in Hua Hin which has great weather and beaches ( Yes I am a Beach Bum ;D) Aruba which I have been to twice and making a 3rd trip there in 2 months is another great place.
In Europe I love Amsterdam I have been there before and it reminds me so much of NYC in it is a very cosmopolitan city and Herb is tolerated. ;D ;) Another city in Europe I have been to is Kobenhaven Denmark although I will say that although I do not like cold weather I would not mind living in the Countryside of Denmark very beautiful as I saw that in my trips there in the summer.
Now Places I have not been to Yet but are on my Bucket list as must dos are Australia and New Zealand, Fiji, Tahiti. I do not know about living there but it would be nice to stay there for at least 6 months to see how it is. 8)
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Now Places I have not been to Yet but are on my Bucket list as must dos are Australia and New Zealand, Fiji, Tahiti. I do not know about living there but it would be nice to stay there for at least 6 months to see how it is. 8)
Definitely go to Australia! My homeland, how I miss it... :) It's so enormous that you'd easily fill six months if you wanted to really get a feel for different places. My recommendations: spend some time in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane/Gold Coast but definitely go off the beaten track, too - some of my favourite childhood memories are when my parents and I would pile into the car and drive all the way from Canberra to Brisbane, stopping overnight and having breakfast/lunch/etc in little towns along the way. Met some really interesting people and saw some beautiful and interesting sights.
I can't speak as a native New Zealander but I've been there a few times, given its close proximity to Australia. It's a truly beautiful country - it really does look as pretty as it does in the Lord of the Rings films. Stunning greens, dramatic mountains and rocks, etc. Not to mention, the people are incredibly friendly, on the whole. I've spent time in Queenstown, Auckland, Christchurch and Hawkes Bay. Would recommend all of them for different reasons. Queenstown, especially in the summer (I've heard that in the winter it's overrun with skiers and is quite a different place) is a wonderfully relaxed place full of things to do, and some of the best restaurants I've ever been to. Auckland is a terrific city, similar to Melbourne but smaller and friendlier. Christchurch was outstandingly beautiful before the earthquakes and they're rebuilding now... I haven't been there since 2008.
Gosh, this turned into a tour guide! Didn't mean to, just sharing my enthusiasm! ;D
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What a question !
Anything to consider like children/education, work (do you and the other half have trades or skills, or will you do anything that turns up when you get there) , health (are you both ok and not looking to find somewhere to benefit your health, eg somewhere warm because of Arthritis or clean air for your chest) ?
Are you lucky enough to just "pack up and piss off" !!
Have I spoilt it all by asking too many questions !
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Good points sorted out Wessy. Especially when travelling together with someone; husband, wife, children etc, it's always different than just packing things alone and wandering somewhere.
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Yes, I had those points in my head when I made my selection, in as much as where I picked, I probably could make happen in a few years if I (we) chose to do so.
Money no object, well, there's no too much point dwelling on what you can't have, but the Maldives looks like paradise, and the place I visited and was overwhelmed with was Venice. It was everything it was cracked up to be. Wouldn't mind spending a few months of the year there, but by 'eck, is it pricy there :o
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Am really happy where i am I wouldn't leave this area For the first time i feel really settled Ok i would love a bit bigger and better house and definitely a bit more remote but wouldn't want to move more than a couple of miles Would still want the supermarket and local shops at convenient distance and not be too far from the public transport links to.Glasgow and beyond
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The is helping gang. Seriously. Sorry for not responding quicker but me Da is in hospital all week and still there. Some internal bleeding stuff and kidneys. Interestingly, talking with both me Da and Mam this week, and never raising the issue, they both have asked why would anyone stay in Ireland the way things are working out. I was surprised but they said they wish they had went further afield even as recently as 15 years ago. Da would've been 68, Mam 60.
Hey Danny. good thoughts man. I have a very close friend who lives in Norway and he says the same things as you do. He loves it there. So much so he settled, married and intends to stay, for now anyway. Social system is obviously very important. Also, having a climate where seasons are defined if very important. We are very temperate here, just like Manchester, gulf stream air dominates with wind and rain all year round. Some good weather but nothing ever stays for every long. As a creature of nature then I think humans need the seasons to live to the full.
Rusco, I get the idea but my wife isn’t in to the same scene as me when it comes to music so I always tend to travel to gigs with the Wicklow crew, when I can. Hasn’t be as often as it should be lately.
Ron, everything i hear about aruba is positive but i think it is becoming the American tropical destination so it might spoil sooner rather than later. I have ben to Thailand, islands, resorts, cities, everything. Loved every minute but I think as a holiday destination more than anything. can you believe I know a bloke who spent his 3 week honeymoon in Bangkok? His memories of it are basically every day getting hit on by ladyboys offering to do him and his wife as a two for one special!!! I’ve been to Oz. Couldn’t live there. Loved New Zealand, could absolutely live there. South Sea Islands? Not sure. And a huge risk if its not right.
What a question !
Anything to consider like children/education, work (do you and the other half have trades or skills, or will you do anything that turns up when you get there) , health (are you both ok and not looking to find somewhere to benefit your health, eg somewhere warm because of Arthritis or clean air for your chest) ?
Are you lucky enough to just "pack up and piss off" !!
Have I spoilt it all by asking too many questions !
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you never spoil anything!!!
Kid is 18 and will not live where we live. He wants to move somewhere, probably London first and do his own thing. Which is great because he will cal where we are “home”. Yes, I have a better half. She has lots of skills but would do anything. She loves animals and spends a lot of time with shelters and charities at a operational level. She has language skills, translation, spanish, french, some italian. Health is OK. Not a concern although drier weather would certainly help more outdoor activity.
great questions and comments so far
Shush, the Maldives….ooooooh. Now, I have been to Mauritius and that was stunning but its not a money no object idea. Its a “we wanna experience other cultures and lifestyles before time passes too much and we can’t". I used to work in the corporate world and could’ve travelled anywhere and lived in different places. But my job now probably allows me to work from anywhere, remotely with some travel.
Pol, I’m a philosophical anarchist of sorts. I hate the corporations and the governments and what they stand for and how they make humans the only resource that they don’t consider protecting or managing properly. they just use and abuse. but I also can rise above all that and say that if I want milk or bread or beer or other items then i am more than prepared to take advantage of the local lidl or tesco or the like. SO like you I would still want some comforts. Internet, devils bit, the odd gig, smoke and maybe a takeaway!!!
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i use Facebook from time to time. more now than ever. its got some great groups on it. I joined one about Pictures of Fishing Boats from around the World. Whitby and Scarborough feature regularly. As do New Zealand, the mediterranean, Africa, Canada, Alaska and such places. I'd certainly like to be beside the sea or large lakes at altitude.
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Yeah, interesting thread.
Surprised you have a downer on Ireland, I always imagined its a nice place to live, but then again I haven't been (yet).
I think one problem with thoughts about moving away is, the grass always looks greener on the other side. Had a chat with NickyG about this a couple of times last year. He is from the Channel Islands (sorry NickyG, forgot which one) which is a picturesque holiday destination that many people would love to go and live in, but when he was a young punk rocker on an Island, all he wanted to do was leave the place, and went to London. I wonder how many Londoners would like to do the reverse.
Master Ray seems to think Nottingham is a good place. Personally, I am growing to hate it at a growing rate. That may well be because I have lived here all my life. With it being a big city, maybe that's why I hanker for the countryside.
Hope your Da improves soon Heno. ;)
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cheers on me da bro
yeah, i think the driver is different as you get older. for me i think its the start of "is this it?" phase and realising if i don't consider it now then soon it will be too late.
i still think its time to move......
EDIT: downer on Ireland. Have for a long time but got caught up in work, marriage, kid, celtic tiger, stupid mistakes and all sorts of other shit. I like Ireland and I like a lot of Irish people. I don't like what its turned into. It is a sponge for crap american programs dominated by american corporations and basically a beach head for yanks to deal with europe. its the 51st state in every way. or it and the UK are since the UK support the war and we coincidentally support the commerce. if all that makes. We are an english speaking country that isn't english so the perfect base US corporate interests in the EU. Why do you think they went so far to stay involved?
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Yeah, can agree with that. One thing I do intend to do before I take a dirt nap is move somewhere else. Maybe 10 - 15 years or so for me.
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if i find somewhere cool i'll be sure to let you know
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How about this? (http://www.lomarengas.fi/serviceimages/6088/6088-1335168958224_10.jpg)
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wow, that is beautiful
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That's Nilsiä, in mid north-eastern Finland. In 2009, NMA played in Iisalmi Sandelsrock Festival 60km:s distance from the place where the photo is taken. Same weather and in end of July. I remember how sunset made an affection to Justin while he sang. The band was maybe a bit tired about touring, but that was certainly one of the gigs I won't ever forget.
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wonderful story
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Personally, I'm a man who loves cities. I love having loads of stuff going on all around me. I have a couple of mates who live in picturesque little villages and, quite frankly, it would bore me silly. No disrespect to anyone who is living in those kind of places, hope you're happy there, but it ain't for me... I want loads of good pubs, gig venues right up the road, 24-hour shops and a constant hustle and bustle where I can get anything I want, right there and then!
Unfortunately, I don't make nearly enough money to have a nice city-centre pad... so I have to live in a crappy little town where I have little of the good things about cities but none of the small village advantages...
Oh well, that lottery win is coming up anyday now, right?
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Personally I dont go for far off exotic places. Give me a Greek island that isnt infested with boozed up Brits and ill be happy.