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Title: A Question to ask
Post by: Rusco on April 11, 2014, 08:46:05 PM
If there's something you would like to ask from someone in the forum or generally, this might be a good place for that.

There wasn't a topic I could place my question (to Viv or someone who knows) so here it goes:

The board main page in the bottom tells "Most Online Ever: 260 (July 01, 2008, 06:05:27 AM)".
I've always been thinking what happened then.

a) Was it the time the new form of the board was opened?
b) The day High was released :)
c) ...or just an occurrence of some strange web search?

I'd go for the a) option...

Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Anna Woman von NRW on April 11, 2014, 09:17:46 PM
I'll go for C but hopefully there is someone around here who still has memory cells left that can tell us.

Nice off the wall question dude!

 :-*
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Wessexy Witch on April 12, 2014, 10:39:12 AM
Nooooo idea !

There's no guarantee the time is right there, but I'm sure someone can work it out for you. I was around at the time but prolly not paying much attention, as per usual.

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Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Rusco on April 13, 2014, 07:31:45 AM
Once I heard from a moderator at another site, that the explanation for plenty of matches of a web search may occur when someone links the site in some popular search engine. Or something like that. But ain't it so that the "most online" include only the ones who've logged in? Then it should not include quests.  ??? Or whatever...
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Heno on April 13, 2014, 07:55:18 AM
so there were a couple of things that were going on around that time.

the site had been upgraded which included the new message board. for a while the board existed on JD's site. there were all sorts of issues with MP3's and the like. Here is a link to the waybackmachine archive for the site that might stir a few memories https://web.archive.org/web/20000619033106/http://www.newmodelarmy.org/fhome.htm (https://web.archive.org/web/20000619033106/http://www.newmodelarmy.org/fhome.htm)


heres the message board - https://web.archive.org/web/20000619033106/http://www.newmodelarmy.org/fhome.htm (https://web.archive.org/web/20000619033106/http://www.newmodelarmy.org/fhome.htm)

and the album was being released around that time which was creating traffic


also, when a new site is brought online i am sure there are what they are web crawlers in abundance. these are little agents that are sent out by google and bing and yahoo and all the others who pride themselves in providing search portals. they have to visit each site and capture all the relevant information so that when you search with an ambiguous term then they might be able to find a match. with tags and search engine optimisation developing at the sped of light this has become much more structure but back in the day it may not have been.


by the way, www.archive.org (http://www.archive.org) is a fascinating place. it contains images of sites from years and years ago. if there were places you used to go to on the web then you can find it here and remind yourself of the posts you used to make back in the day.
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Pol on April 15, 2014, 09:49:45 AM
2 stupid questions form me
A- The vinyl record Collection emi 1991 Why does this have near enough the exact same cover as the Space Vinyl 12 inch Is this a fairly rare record ive never seen it on ebay etc
B- Who is Cartwright that has a credit on the song 51st State
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Shush on April 15, 2014, 10:13:31 AM
Pol, this sort of answers question B

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm40IRhr6iQ
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Gaijin on April 15, 2014, 12:41:15 PM
2 stupid questions form me
A- The vinyl record Collection emi 1991 Why does this have near enough the exact same cover as the Space Vinyl 12 inch Is this a fairly rare record ive never seen it on ebay etc
B- Who is Cartwright that has a credit on the song 51st State

A - To paraphrase Joolz: The brazilian public buy records with bright covers hence the changes
B - Ashley Cartwright is/was a friend of Justin's. He is mentioned by name in the bootleg of the Keighley Funhouse gig from 1981. An early version of 51st State, (called '53rd State of America') is available on the Lyon October 1985 bootleg. It is shorter (missing the last verse) and at the time was acoustic. Notable because it was performed a year before it's single release.
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Pol on April 15, 2014, 03:09:45 PM
Thanks for your answers guys You have been very helpful
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Rusco on April 15, 2014, 07:28:49 PM
I'd have a question here to Gaijin:

May I ask a little bit who you are? Someone from the older noticeboard? The topics you've created recently are loaded with lots of interesting hard-to-find details. It's nice to read them. Please don't get me wrong, but with only twenty posts yet, it's clear you're not a newcomer with NMA & Family. Dedication...  :)
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Pol on April 15, 2014, 08:16:31 PM
Wow thanks Shush a very interesting utube watch
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Master Ray on April 15, 2014, 09:06:07 PM
There was an OLDER noticeboard..?

 ;D
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Rusco on April 16, 2014, 07:13:02 AM
There was an OLDER noticeboard..?

 ;D

Err, my word. I'll swear! The first edition of Michael Bublee forum saw its hegemonous daylight in... What a heck.. It's the NMA noticeboard we're talking!  ;D

But really.  ;D
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Heno on April 16, 2014, 08:37:38 AM
Ray, the site went up back in 1998. The links in my post above give later versions of the site and the noticeboard/messageboard and now forum. I'm colour blind so stick with me. when you click the second link you come to a page that has what looks like a horizontal graph across the top in the middle. it says 109 captures to the left and has a year, month and date feature to the right. the vertical dark lines are the dates over time that the site was captured by web search engine agents. you can slide the marker on the graph, click to list the individual captures and view them as web pages, or use the arrows on the date to move forward and back. the height of the dark vertical line seems to denote detail captured so from '08 onwards there appears to be a lot more info. but its interesting to browse. heres a link to a break down of info from the discussion board from way back in the day

https://web.archive.org/web/20000619033106/http://www.newmodelarmy.org/fhome.htm (https://web.archive.org/web/20000619033106/http://www.newmodelarmy.org/fhome.htm)
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Rusco on April 16, 2014, 09:56:48 AM
Ray, the site went up back in 1998.

It was a smaller case compared to this. I think it was opened in 1995 or -96. Couldn't remember it so well. Orange texts on a black background.
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Heno on April 16, 2014, 10:18:17 AM
Yes, you're right. I think the waybackmachine started looking for newmodelarmy.org in '98. Not sure if the url prior to that was different.
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Rusco on April 16, 2014, 10:32:37 AM
But where are Ingo and other old geezers? Welsh-beard's still around. Sequioa225 and Ottodeth writes quite rarely...  ???

I think I saw recently a vid in YouTube which was a about Family. Ingo seemed to be the other of the makers.
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: lotus on April 16, 2014, 06:08:37 PM
first link to newmodelarmy.org I saw was printed on the sb cover 1998
only a few postings a week at that time, as tree-files in an folder - and mondays with PeterZychdownloads
56k-modem era  ;D
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Master Ray on April 16, 2014, 06:34:16 PM
I only got broadband in my flat about 18 months ago... that's how tech-stupid I am...

Must investigate further... be interesting to see MUCH older posts...
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Rusco on April 16, 2014, 08:18:44 PM
Umm...oh, now I think you folks are right about the year 1998 as the birth of the site. In -95 the web was just build and sold along with the windows 95.

About Archive:

For some reason, I can't see anything in the pages Heno posted links about Wayback Machine. But when you survey the archive on your own by browsing first to Internet Archive and then looking for newmodelarmy.org, then it succeeds... Some time ago I tried to find some topics concerning the 30th Anniversary tours from 2009 here by searching the archive. I was actually a bit surprised how soon the topics seem to drown down. But I think it's because of the recent changes here due to the earlier spam problems (the text Viv has writen in upper right corner).

Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Pol on April 16, 2014, 08:36:52 PM
I first starting posting stuff on the probably about 2000 I had the username spider heid cant really remember much or names from then All i can recall was a guy named never wore clogs who was a bit of a annoying spamhead Does anyone else remember him or her
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Heno on April 16, 2014, 08:45:38 PM
not sure Rusco. I can see them. or maybe i don't understand the issue
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Rusco on April 16, 2014, 09:47:42 PM
I couldn't see the pictures. When I tried to view images (by right click) there was a text saying "can't open images / not allowed because of the robots" or something. Only thing I saw was a text from the main page about the album coming out in 2000... But I realized it's a long time since I last used the archive and maybe just forgot how to use that. I could go to the page where it's possible to choose a year and months by their activity rate. However, it wasn't possible to open a viewpoint of any of the dates.

Using Firefox. Windows 7 pro.
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Heno on April 16, 2014, 09:49:59 PM
got it. i can see some images but otherwise they are just the marker with the x in it.
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Gaijin on April 18, 2014, 12:57:13 PM
first link to newmodelarmy.org I saw was printed on the sb cover 1998
only a few postings a week at that time, as tree-files in an folder - and mondays with PeterZychdownloads
56k-modem era  ;D

How well I remember Peter and his Low Q mp3's. Mondays were more interesting then.
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Rusco on June 17, 2014, 10:17:27 PM
A Question about the "In-Ger-Land" and what's it meaning? I saw you folks mentioning it there. At times I drop out with yer local meanings.  :o

Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Danny on June 18, 2014, 08:34:47 AM
A Question about the "In-Ger-Land" and what's it meaning? I saw you folks mentioning it there. At times I drop out with yer local meanings.  :o

It's just a phonetic spelling of the way the chant is sung - the word England only has 2 syllables so it's too short to be sung as, say Liverpool, Arsenal, Everton, or many others (Li-Ver-Pool, Ar-Se-Nal, E-Ver-Ton etc.). Therefore people tend to stretch the G to make it fit into the tune (En-G-Land, En-G-Land, En-G-Land etc.)
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Rusco on June 18, 2014, 08:49:18 AM
Ok so there isn't any deeper meaning, like UKIP for In-ger-land or etc?  ;)
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Master Ray on June 18, 2014, 07:15:52 PM
Cheers guys,  I was kidding, don't think I expressed that properly, my bad.

I do remember lurking around on an NMA noticeboard for a long-time before I actually joined...
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Shush on June 19, 2014, 08:01:37 PM
A Question about the "In-Ger-Land" and what's it meaning? I saw you folks mentioning it there. At times I drop out with yer local meanings.  :o

Rusco, do they not have a similar chant for your national team?

FIN-GER-LAND. !!! :D
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Anna Woman von NRW on June 19, 2014, 09:11:57 PM


Rusco, do they not have a similar chant for your national team?

FIN-GER-LAND. !!! :D
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You're on form tonight Dude, I'll have a bit of what you're drinking  :-*
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Shush on June 20, 2014, 10:04:29 AM
At the time AWOK, I was drunk on World Cup disappointment  :(
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: Rusco on June 27, 2014, 09:14:12 PM

Rusco, do they not have a similar chant for your national team?

FIN-GER-LAND. !!! :D

Hey, that was good!  ;D You can believe how I laughed to it while we went to the cottage at a holiday week ago. I couldn't access to the net in the midst of forests but just read your messages.

However, 'Finland' in Finnish is translated as 'Suomi'. But as for the amazing finger-land you devised ;) the word 'finger' is 'sormi' in Finnish.
Title: A Question to ask
Post by: New Dawn on November 04, 2016, 11:38:46 PM
Hi,

I wanted to look into older posts but they are only going back to 2012. So, this probably has been discussed before somewhere and I might remember very slightly that it has been announced but maybe I just missed out also. Has the older posts been deleted or is there a possibility to look into them somewhere? Someone here knows?

ND
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: MARKXE on November 05, 2016, 03:27:37 PM
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.newmodelarmy.org/wwwboard/messages/*

Copy and paste all the above and stick it in google.  ;)
Title: Re: A Question to ask
Post by: New Dawn on November 11, 2016, 08:35:54 PM
Great link Markxe! Do you know a way to filter IN the pages because 12.000 is a lot to search in   ???