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General Category => Everything Else => Topic started by: Master Ray on December 07, 2014, 07:47:30 PM
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Where do you beautiful lot stand on this one?
For me, gotta be The Beatles... they were only together for about nine years but they changed music forever. The journey from the basic-beat stuff to the truly mental shit on their later albums... no band, not ever, has done anything remotely approaching that.
Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of Stones stuff too... Gimme Shelter, Sympathy For The Devil, Wild Horses, Angie, Start Me Up... phenomenal tracks. But they've dragged it out to stupid levels and become a joke band who demand huge ticket prices when they've already got more money than God and have no respect for bands that respect them... see Carter USM and The Verve...
Your opinion..? :(
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bowie
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bowie
Bloody love Bowie, so much magnificence. Another thread starting in my mind. But getting back to my original point... ;)
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paint it black
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all my love
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Not a massive fan of either, but for me the stones win it hands down they definitely have the better tunes. I've never understood the whole Beatles thing. Agreed that the stones have lost the plot and it was disgusting what they done to the verve etc. I always used to say that music started with punk in 76/77 but i do like a few older things.
Ps I don't like Bowie either lol
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I rest my case. Peter Griffin was so right lol
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9G4jnaznUoQ
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Hard one for me; In their heyday I'd have said the Stones, but they've been peddling some pretty ropey tack since Some Girls, and as mentioned above they're a bit of a joke now - huge stages, horn sections, 23 musicians in the backing band, no bass player etc etc.
I think the Beatles' legacy has been much better looked after and much less much less mucked around with. Also I think the music sounds less hackneyed and somehow fresher than the majority of the Stones stuff.
That said, Sticky Fingers.... If Carsberg made smack-albums....
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Well it's Beatles if I had to choose. Listened to them a lot when 10 years old brat.
I agree The Stones have done some quite great songs when they started until the Start Me Up. But I admit their arrogance toward other bands is somewhat idiotical. When I read the book about Blackmore (Black Knight), there was a gig where they played as a support to Rolling Stones. Deep Purple had just started couple of years earlier so they were a new band. The gig organiser or some people came to give advice to DP lads that they surely wanted to hear what the Stones guys think about them (guess what, they didn't like them). Ha, DP told them to f"*k off as they were not interested in what the Stones were doing. :)
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Easy one for me - The Beatles :)
Apart from the odd song like "Paint it Black", never really got into the Stones
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If you read the writing credits of 'Bittersweet Symphony' by The Verve, it will say 'written by Jagger / Richards'... just because a sample from (I think) 'The Last Time' was used. Those two multi-millionaires demanded 100% of the credit from the real writers of the song just for that. They also demanded 100% of the publishing credit for 'After The Watershed' by Carter USM just because they used the three words 'goodbye ruby tuesday' in the chorus, despite The Stones having nothing to do with the track... which is why that song got cut from Carters third album...
Horrible, money-grabbing pricks who haven't released anything decent since 1980 and still take the piss out of bands and fans in the name of even more ££££s... >:(
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Channel 3 covered the Stones song Stupid Girl. It's second track on their album. Wonder what ever happened to them due that horrible crime.
Awesome track.
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well both are slightly overrated. :) The Beatles is said to be the best band of all time and the Stones a close second. I do not think this is the case. I actually like qualities of both.
The Rolling Stones are more raw and bluesy. They have some wonderful songs. I think the best is Paint it black by miles. I also like Under my thumb, As tears go by, 19th Nervous breakdown, Street Fighting Man.These are very solid songs. :)
However the Beatles have some wonderful songs as well. Especially when they are written by Lennon Or Harrison. They were brilliant song writers. They have written a few of the best songs written in that time Period.
While My Guitar Gently Weeps is genius. Nowhere Man, Fool on the Hill, Revolution, Here Comes the Sun, Eleanor Rigby. All solid songs.
Then there are song such as "I want to hold your hand" or "She loves you" which have lyrics that could have been written by an 11 year old. ;D
Then songs that were clearly written while on drugs that make little sense when you think about them.
"I am the Walrus" was regarded as one of their best songs but it makes not sense at all. Just reading the lyrics can make one go WTF? ???
For me I would say "The Beatles" win but only because they were around for such a short period of time and covered more genres. Not to mention Lennon was a better lyricists than Jagger with the acceptation of "I am the Walrus" of course. Plus who doesn't like to song along to Beatles songs while driving in their cars alone or with a group of people. I used to love that "The Beatles rock band game" :D
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Paint it Black (http://www.google.fi/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DzetjY8O6VIs&ei=f3GFVJLlLMj-ywO1-IL4Dg&usg=AFQjCNERYFXK5odLFpeyGR9_F5TDeuwS8Q&bvm=bv.80642063,d.bGQ)
And now let's run... ;)
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Stones
Beatles always bored me and I never quite got what the fuss was all about. I'm with Alf Garnett: "Scouse Git" plus McCartney does that awful double thumbs up think - dickhead ;D
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Stones
The early years `til 1975 - more blues
Have some singles of both bands (thanks to my elder brother), but not one beatles lp, knowing most of the songs I never felt the need to buy them ...
Paint it black, Gimme shelter, Satisfaction
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the film One+One (Jean-Luc Godard) with Sympathy of the devil
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Seems about 50/50 on this one...
On a slightly divergent note, it's the anniversary of John Lennons murder... I still remember that day. I was a small boy coming down from his bedroom, ready for school and found my mother crying about some bloke called John Lennon... wasn't quite sure who he was...
Anyone got any memories of that day? ???
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I remember looking out the window in the morning, someone was looking at a Newspaper, I noticed that the front page was just one picture which was unusual at the time. I then later found out who the picture was of, and what it was all about. :'(
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I remember still the face of the manic who murdered Lennon. I read an article about it then from some kid's rock magazine. Was so young and didn't understand the thing quite well in that age.
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You folks heard about the Smack?
Paint it Black (https://www.google.fi/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCEQ3ywwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D5nr-uTs5h2k&ei=Vi6GVJDsC-fmyQP50IKgDw&usg=AFQjCNGILgA7jPIozvCR-CJZtW8eHrANOw&bvm=bv.80642063,d.bGQ)
...once you get past some boring adds.
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Beach Boys ;). Nah the Beatles Id say did one no-one did before and Id agree that some of the early stuff consisted of 4 words repeated throughout the song. Simple but catchy pop music.
The Stones were more rock/blues. I cant honestly pick a favourite. Like some stuff from both but equally dislike some.
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Beatles
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On the subject of 1960's British super groups, personally I rate "The Who" over "The Rolling Stones"
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Sorry,
don`t forget The Animals and "Winds of Change"
What a cover version of "Paint it black",
(not to mention The Black Plague, Hotel Hell and ...)
Top 10 lp at that time and still now one of my top 50 !
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Winds of Change (Eric Burdon - not Scorpians)
Paint It Black
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTinm9WiWtE
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On the subject of 1960's British super groups, personally I rate "The Who" over "The Rolling Stones"
I'm into DP. Well they did only three albums in the end of 60's but listened to all of their first 10 albums in the eighties.
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DP In Rock is one of my Top 50 ;)
Child In Time or Flight of the Rats were helpful follow other bands
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DP In Rock is one of my Top 50 ;)
Child In Time or Flight of the Rats were helpful follow other bands
Cool. How about Rat Bat Blue (https://www.google.fi/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCEQuAIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D6poRsrl_574&ei=BWSHVP3APKOiygPb_4HICg&usg=AFQjCNEOqr--F4URAYz0RzZS14ygeM709A&bvm=bv.81449611,d.bGQ)? 8)
One of the craziest and best solos of Jon Lord.
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my mother crying about some bloke called John Lennon... wasn't quite sure who he was...
Anyone got any memories of that day? ???
That's exactly what I remember... I was only two.
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So where would Pink Floyd sit on this debate. Again im not there biggest fan but unlike the Beatles and Stones i do own some of their cds and would actually go see them live given the chance.
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So where would Pink Floyd sit on this debate. Again im not there biggest fan but unlike the Beatles and Stones i do own some of their cds and would actually go see them live given the chance.
Well, that's a new debate just waiting to be started, sir, you know which button to press! ;)
Hope to see you on Saturday...
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Stones
Beatles always bored me and I never quite got what the fuss was all about. I'm with Alf Garnett: "Scouse Git" plus McCartney does that awful double thumbs up think - dickhead ;D
Just saw Ceri do that thumbs up in Nottingham and thought of this post :D
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I've really missed you lot - been dead busy and also avoiding you because I knew I couldn't go to the gig.
So I open a thread that says Beatles or the Stones and read 'Bowie'
Thanks - I feel better for that.
There's loads of threads been started since I was here and I won't be reading all the comments but the comment 'Bowie'... well, that's worth getting back for.
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I've really missed you lot - been dead busy and also avoiding you because I knew I couldn't go to the gig.
So I open a thread that says Beatles or the Stones and read 'Bowie'
Thanks - I feel better for that.
There's loads of threads been started since I was here and I won't be reading all the comments but the comment 'Bowie'... well, that's worth getting back for.
Hey, mate, sorry you couldn't make it, I won't rub it in...
BOWIE... so, who's gonna start a big thread about that utter genius, me or you?
Gotta be honest, I'm a bit knackered tonight, might give it a go tomorrow... feel free to start one!
;)
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Thing is: who's it gonna be Vs? Bowie vs Bolan - forget it - Bowie Vs Alice Cooper? Now that'd be close - nah I'd say David Bowie Vs Clint Eastwood - but thats narrowing it down too much to an era and Bowie has travelled way more time than any of them. There is no one to get in the ring with Bowie..I'd be interested to see who you can parr him with.
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Metric - Gimme Sympathy (http://youtu.be/jq3-wZs64n4)
Great song with the line: "Who'd you rather be? The Beatles or The Rolling Stones?"
No mention of Bowie or Eastwood. And Eastwood loses for doing that female boxer movie.