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General Category => Everything Else => Topic started by: Master Ray on May 06, 2015, 07:47:53 PM
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Much as I hate to say it, but I think the Tories are gonna get back in.
But, I predict this... it'll be by a whisker and it'll be the lowest voting turnout in history...
It doesn't help that Labour have put such a media-unfriendly numbskull as Milliband as their main man... also, the MASSIVE newspaper bias towards Conservative... some of the smear stories against Labour supporters are just shocking...
Yeah, I know I'm a bit biased coming from an NHS background... and make no mistake about it, the NHS is finished if the Tories get in again... no, don't even try and argue, I have enough front-line NHS friends who have seen what's happening there under this current Government.
I just wish there was a better alternative... let's face it, we're not voting for 'the best', just 'the least worst'... ::)
Whatever... I hope you UK folks vote tomorrow with whatever your heart tells you to do...
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Hate to say it but I think you are right Master Ray - I also think the Tories will just about scrape it ( I really hope I'm wrong). But I think the turnout might be a bit of a surprise. It does seem like there are more people thinking this one matters for some reason.
It's been the most stage managed , image driven, fake, American style campaign we've had so far. And yes the media vested interest has been somewhat apparent hasn't it?
I've been particularly unimpressed with this whole "Scottish Menace" shite that's been dragged out to try and scare people somehow. Pathetic. Desperate.
I will at least go to the polling station tomorrow. Whether I'll actually vote for someone or spoil my paper I'm still not sure. But at least spoiled get counted so I can get off my arse and do that much at least I suppose :)
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I also think it's amusing / shocking that THE SUN newspaper is so incredibly pro-Tory... seeing as their readership is mostly the desperately poor and under-educated and easily-led... hmm, ******* Murdoch taking Camerons shilling, eh?
>:(
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Sure agree about the NHS!
I've been a nurse for over 30 years, still work at the same hospital I trained at....
Very difficult times under any Tory government.
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It will be a coalition between Labour and Lib-Dems.
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Aye they Scots have always been a menace lol.
Think I'm the same as everyone else in that I'm pissed off with it all in saying that i think its very important to vote think of all the people that have died trying to get democracy.
And yes I'm voting for the state educated working class Ayrshire lass. I don't agree with everything they say but its that or labour n i feel that they had several chances and done fck all.
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the government
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X has marked its square if you don't vote you cant complain when things go tits up n if you voted for the mob that made it so, you can shake your head n say fck i voted for those idiots lol
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X has marked its square if you don't vote you cant complain when things go tits up n if you voted for the mob that made it so, you can shake your head n say fck i voted for those idiots lol
Totally agree, Pol. If you can't be arsed to vote, don't whine about the outcome.
Still a couple of hours left, non-voters!
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Also, going like this ::) at the Daily Mails newspaper headline this morning that said something like 'Your guide to Tactical Voting... How To Keep Red Ed Out...'
Yay, unbiased journalism!
>:(
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The Scottish daily record had " come on England - kick him out and a pic of Cameron
Question - How many candidates stood in your area. I was surprised that there was only 4 where i vote
snp labour lib-dem tory.
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The Scottish daily record had " come on England - kick him out and a pic of Cameron
Question - How many candidates stood in your area. I was surprised that there was only 4 where i vote
snp labour lib-dem tory.
I also had UKIP, The Green Party and someone else whose name I can't remember.
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Well, X marks the spot....... or maybe it didn't ;) . Either way I now have the right to gob off and b*tch for the next 5 years (this may not be a good thing ;D).
As for the continuing "media" descent into realms way beyond abysmal even Alastair Campbell has despaired of it FFS >:(. I saw a picture of all the front pages together today and it wasa proper head in the heads moment. To think that that is the picture the rest of the world gets of us is embarrasing. And newspaper editors email people telling them how to vote?
We had 5 candidates: tory, labour, lib-dem,green, UKfuckingamoebabrainedstupidbastardwankerIP
Question - Anyone know of a song along the lines of "Guy Fawkes Where are you now that we need you?". I feel like listening to it if there is and if there isn't someone should write one .
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OK, come on, they are all lovely, really...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPPiwbjBQTA
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Since the original question was , who will win . My answer - probably nobody its either gonna be a tory ukip lib dem coalition or a labour backed by snp greens and others. Worse case scenario we do it all again in a few months
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Latest exit polls show the Tories leading :'( :'(
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well, at least the UKIP squib proved to be nice and damp.
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Didn't think i would ever want to see a tory win until it came the result in Nazi Nigel's seat. Nasty prick still stirring up hatred it wasn't us that voted tory .
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So fear and greed won the day again then.
As Jack & Pol said - at least UKIP proved to be a wet fart (but check their % of the vote...............).
I guess we will now find out where the £12bn cuts are gonna come from. Time to get off the Island I think.
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Genuinely didnt know who to vote yesterday, from a Labour supporter. Knew it would never be Tory but after that I didnt feel Labour were ready after so short a time. Still, Shiny face can tell us how great Great Britain is....well if youre already well off. I think we will hear the death knell of public services in the next 5 years
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I know that everyone here is pissed off and disappointed, don't think that any of us wanted 5 more years of the tories
From a Scottish point of view Yes the snp done better than their wildest dreams some of the results were incredible. Will it make a great deal of difference now that Cameron has a majority government probably not, i know they thought that labour would win and need their support. On the plus side they will hopefully do a better than labour done for us in opposition. Locally i find amazing that labour has lost its seat, i didn't think I would ever see that in my lifetime especially with the massive majority snp won.
Straight on for the days ahead !
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Bit surprised after voting to stay in the Union that Scotland in effect voted for its own Government in effect. Its not that long ago that the SNP got a handful of seats. Dont thibk anyone expected it.
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Got that a bit wrong, didn't I? Thought the Tories might scrape in, but such a majority?
Absolute proof that the UK populace will fall for anything... the smear campaign against Labour, in the last couple of weeks, was shocking. The election was bought and paid for weeks ago. Now, don't get me wrong, Labour lost the election when they put forward an utter ******* lemon like Milliband... even worse than Kinnock.
Why the hell can't Labour put forward a candidate that isn't some millionaire champagne socialist right out of public school who anyone with the slightest scrap of brain in their head believes has the working / lower middle classes best interests in mind?
Oh well, UK 'plebs', The X Factor will be back on TV soon... that's the IMPORTANT thing, eh? VOTE!!!! And good luck struggling to pay for private healthcare... ::)
I truly believe that years from now, 07.05.2015 will be regarded as a very dark day in history...
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Think everyone that voted yes and a few that voted no all voted snp . Plus the labour party in Scotland was in a mess only a few months ago their leader resigned saying that the party had been treated like a branch office by ed milliband and co. Agree with ray in the fact that labour got it badly wrong both in personal and policy.
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I truly believe one of labours major failings for this was the persona of Milliband. Saw an old lady interviewed in the street for local news, she could no other reason for not voting Labour other than she didn't like him. The role of Prime minister, or President, charisma, standing and charm, how old they look, -- do they look and sound the part, all matter. Whatever you thought of Blair, in the 1990's, he had what it took to get elected after many years of Labour exile. The charm, the smile, the right kind of B/S
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Agreed, Shush... but who the hell thought Cameron was a 'likeable' person?
The smuggest twot on the planet, just trying to conceal his sniggers as he carves up public services to line the pockets of his rich pals...
A more punchable face, I have rarely seen... yet the sheeple fall for it.
>:(
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I agree Cameron is smug with Oxbridge written all over his face, but he is a good orator and gives the impression he believes what he says. Like I say, personality as a leader is a massive factor. It shouldn't be, what they are offering is all that should matter, but hey, that's show business :D
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Miliband is awful - he made Cameron look better than what he is. Clegg? No, merci. Balls to that.
The Tories have a point about the economy: Brown's 'boom and bust is over' not only became a pathetic joke, but one which leaves a sour enough taste in most people's mouths to ensure anyone fixing it could be re-elected.
The success of the Tories here just illustrates how difficult it is to trust opinion polls - and that's something most political pundits already know only too well...but...
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This is the Labour Party's fault (and as a dyed-in-the-wool working class Herbert that's not an easy thing to say); if they hadn't been such an unelectable shower of disorganised, rudderless, hopeless, policy-less jibbers then they might have been a realistic prospect. As it was they were a poor joke at best.
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from the outside looking in
scottish referendum should've been held after the election and not before. things like that do not belong at the end of a government.
labour is falling apart everywhere. they have lost touch with the reality of life as working class people. and it is not just in the UK. Ireland's labour party are a disgrace acting like lapdogs for a right of centre party. unions are lost and people are suppressed by the police for protesting about world economics which sends a message that we will do this on a world stage so don't think we won't shut you down on local issues.
glad i'm an anarchist to be honest
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Have to admit we're a bit surprised here in Finland how did the conservatives win in UK even though 75% voted something else than them? ???
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Hey Rusco - that is because of the brilliance in our voting system whereby you don't have to win in order to win !
It's all down to the fact that we vote in our own little areas (constituencies) rather than in an overall national vote. So this way a party can end up with the most constituencies ( and therefore become the Government) even though most people didn't vote for them.
Based on how people actually voted the House Of Commons should look like this:
(scroll down to 2015 Seats Under PR)
http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/heres-how-the-election-results-would-look-under-a-proportional-voting-system--gJenQmaW2gW
England - the mother of parliaments ?? Bollox ! ;D
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On the plus side Anna it meant that ukip only got one seat instead of about 80 they would have under proportional representation so not all bad. Hope the house of commons bar has stocked up on irn bru lol
I won't even mention the joke that is the house of lords
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FPTP is a joke, but it's carefully devised to make sure only one of two parties can ever get in, to keep the pretence of democracy while in fact all the people can choose from is the lesser of two evils, and as such they'll never accept to change it... and now the tory scum are gonna redraw the boundaries to make sure it'll be virtually impossible to beat them. I hate UKIP like everyone else here (apart from possibly the one troll) does, but you can't be democratic only when it suits you: if people voted for them they should be in parliament, simple as that. And we'd have a lot more Greens too.
Pol, like I told you in person in Nottingham, your country had a great chance to break free from this toxic union but sadly succumbed to the lies and scare stories of the press and didn't take it. Thanks to the SNP's great result maybe you'll get another chance soon(ish) - make sure you don't blow it again... and then get ready for an influx on refugees from England ;) - I'm seriously considering moving already, and I live in a completely labour area, where the Greens get more votes that the scum; but the chances of Leytonstone becoming independent are somewhat lower than Scotland's ;D
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I'm still in therapy from the independence vote lol , hey that's democracy you just have to accept it and move on.
On the proportional representation we had the chance a few years ago to change things and didn't, i mentioned this at the time of the European Parliament elections. Yes the idea seemed a little over complicated but i know that the British public are smart enough to get there head around it, it works well enough when we vote in the Scottish Parliament elections.
I find it totally outrageous that any party can change the boundaries surly this should be only done if totally necessary and by a independent body
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ww.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p02qs82x/frankie-boyles-election-autopsy
thought this might help