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General Category => New Model Army => Topic started by: The Ghost of Cain on September 12, 2016, 06:29:51 PM
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I'm trying to convert my girlfriend into a NMA fan, with v little success. I've manged to convert her with surprising success to many of my other favourites. Then 1 day I happened to play Family Life & she told me (in an almost aggrieved tone) that it was the most romantic NMA song I'd ever played her & I realised that the worth of music, to her, is measured by how 'romantic' it is. So now I'm trying to compile her a CD based on this criteria. The trouble is NMA doesn't really write traditional love songs. After a strong start with Queen of My Heart, Knife, Love Songs & 11 Years I'm left :-\. Any ideas?
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Hard task. Try maybe: Lullaby from Strange Brotherhood
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Thanks STP, good suggestion, I'm now listening to it! Now just another 14 or so to fill the CD...
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No Greater Love was always a fave of mine
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She doesn't like NMA? Dump her! Immediately!
You know I'm kidding. ;)
Queen Of My Heart is my 'most romantic' NMA tune, but I guess this fantastic band don't really do conventionally romantic songs. Certainly, they do songs about love, in it's various forms (Drummy B springs to mind) but the whole girl / boy thing... I'm struggling.
Perhaps it's just one of those things you'll have to agree to disagree on... ???
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How about all of JS and Friends.
Cheers
jc
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(Drummy B springs to mind) but the whole girl / boy thing
Hmm...Billie could be a girl's name...added! & 1 from the latest album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96-IFoyc-Og. No Greater Love is indeed epic, but I fear its intensity would have her reaching for eject
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(Drummy B springs to mind) but the whole girl / boy thing
Hmm...Billie could be a girl's name...added! & 1 from the latest album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96-IFoyc-Og. No Greater Love is indeed epic, but I fear its intensity would have her reaching for eject
'It's all over now between us...'
You trying to tell her something?
:o
;D
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No Greater Love is indeed epic, but I fear its intensity would have her reaching for eject
I did wonder.
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Nothing touches , I love the world , green and grey , brave new world 2
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if "Queen of My Heart" doesn't have any effect on her, I'd give up. Beyond that, JS's solo album, thats quite romantic, basically love and appreciation for the Sea.
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- Ballad
- Marry the sea
- Mambo Queen
- Sex (The black angel)
- Summer Moors
- Marrakesh
- Orange Tree Roads
- Poison Street
- Southwest
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Some fine suggestions, the CD will be filled yet! Orange Tree Roads & Southwest are perfect; & Summer Moors (romantic in the Byronic/Brontean sense) would probably be my pick as the definitive answer, though she'll likely find it a bit :'(
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Don't forget Stogoula from Winter. ;)
Amazing song.
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Lean Back and Fall
LS43
I Wish
So your girlfriend thinks that "If I could have my way, I would line them up against a wall" is romantic?!?!?
Run fast. And run far!!! :-)
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So your girlfriend thinks that "If I could have my way, I would line them up against a wall" is romantic?!?!?
Oddly enough, I think that's the v part that appealed to her. I guess it's the righteous anger against those who have hurt a beloved. She has issues with her family...Oh dear, I shall have to get em in line ;)
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Any ideas?
Vengeance
The hunt
Here comes the war
Christian Militia
Sex (the black angel)
Heroin
Flying through the smoke
Another imperial day
One of the chosen
Bloodsports
Today is a good day
Angry planet
Burn the castle
Orange Tree Roads
But is there really a future for the love in this song?
"Will you still love me...when everything is changed??" ;)
"Far better thing" somewhat is about love...killing someone by love because you don't want him/her to suffer anymore...
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Can't believe I didn't think of Poison Street... :-\
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Orange Tree Roads
But is there really a future for the love in this song?
"Will you still love me...when everything is changed??" ;)
That would depend on the answer to the question. Everything will change, so it's natural to wonder. The song leaves it unanswered, but sounds hopeful & optimistic, though I'm sure, like everything else, the nature of that love would change too
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Justin once said before playing this song live, something like "If you're not changing, you're already dead i think!"
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Drift - all about opposites attracting.
And put 'Sleepwalking' on there too - instrumental, but I defy anyone to remain unmoved.
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Living In The Rose :-*
Between Dog & Wolf - described by JS as a winter love song
Changing Of The Light
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Living in the Rose. I can remember an NME review saying something along the lines of it having more passion than all the other songs released that week.
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Play Get me OUT and go insane in the room................she ll love that..........................
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Before I Get Old
"I'll watch the sun set over every sea
From every city wall, every mountain peak"
I Love The World - Romantic, in the doomed, despairing, sense
"But we are locked together here, this bittersweet embrace
Oh God I love the world"
Ocean Rising - likewise...
"And I'll be there - where the sky touches the sea
At the edge of the ocean where the beautiful world fades into the grey
I dream of the ocean, rising, rising"
and Leeds Road 3am is a sad, sad story of how close we all are to the darkness....
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Just thought of one, Carlisle Road. Deffo a song about love for your family... I think it's interesting how the narrators wife or partner 'says nothing', which could mean she's supportive (and too upset for words) or hating for whatever happened, but the narrator still obviously loves his children...
Came home four, four-thirty, Emma was waiting up for me
News chanel drone on the TV, her arms clasped around her knee
She looked up but said nothing
I went up to the kids bedroom, touched their sleeping faces
Wondered how I could protect them
Wondered how to protect them
I do like lyrics that invite you to hang on your own personal interpretation...
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Love this thread ❤️
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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Love Songs yet. It's full of longing." Please believe like I still believe the best is yet to come"
Agree with Master Ray about Carlisle Road
I also think that Afternoon Song has a romantic feel to it, and Orange Tree Roads
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...here goes...some are for the gentleness of the music, others are for the lyrics...
11 Years
Marry The Sea
Paekakariki Beach
Caslen (no vocals version)
Big Blue
and, maybe, Autumn
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Always love wipe out from Eight
'this is how love feels'
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for me it's a no-brainer:
Ballad 2
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For me the more recent songs, Lean Back and Fall, Between Dig and Wolf, and of course the Price
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Just thought of one, Carlisle Road. Deffo a song about love for your family... I think it's interesting how the narrators wife or partner 'says nothing', which could mean she's supportive (and too upset for words) or hating for whatever happened, but the narrator still obviously loves his children...
Came home four, four-thirty, Emma was waiting up for me
News chanel drone on the TV, her arms clasped around her knee
She looked up but said nothing
I went up to the kids bedroom, touched their sleeping faces
Wondered how I could protect them
Wondered how to protect them
I do like lyrics that invite you to hang on your own personal interpretation...
I always interpreted the narrator in this one as being a police officer on riot duty.
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Always love wipe out from Eight
'this is how love feels'
Yep, this definitely fits the bill with lyrics like;
"On the back-lanes down to the sea we pulled to the side of the road
Danced together in the headlights beam to the songs on the radio
Cheek to cheek "
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I'd add Bluebeat and Coming Up to the list too !
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Just thought of one, Carlisle Road. Deffo a song about love for your family... I think it's interesting how the narrators wife or partner 'says nothing', which could mean she's supportive (and too upset for words) or hating for whatever happened, but the narrator still obviously loves his children...
Came home four, four-thirty, Emma was waiting up for me
News chanel drone on the TV, her arms clasped around her knee
She looked up but said nothing
I went up to the kids bedroom, touched their sleeping faces
Wondered how I could protect them
Wondered how to protect them
I do like lyrics that invite you to hang on your own personal interpretation...
I always interpreted the narrator in this one as being a police officer on riot duty.
Interesting, Tony, thanks for that, a nice new interpretation of this great song!
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Just thought of one, Carlisle Road. Deffo a song about love for your family... I think it's interesting how the narrators wife or partner 'says nothing', which could mean she's supportive (and too upset for words) or hating for whatever happened, but the narrator still obviously loves his children...
Came home four, four-thirty, Emma was waiting up for me
News chanel drone on the TV, her arms clasped around her knee
She looked up but said nothing
I went up to the kids bedroom, touched their sleeping faces
Wondered how I could protect them
Wondered how to protect them
I do like lyrics that invite you to hang on your own personal interpretation...
I always interpreted the narrator in this one as being a police officer on riot duty.
Interesting, Tony, thanks for that, a nice new interpretation of this great song!
I'm pretty sure I remember this as being the story from the man himself. Maybe in the song notes include in the Anthology?
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Just thought of one, Carlisle Road. Deffo a song about love for your family... I think it's interesting how the narrators wife or partner 'says nothing', which could mean she's supportive (and too upset for words) or hating for whatever happened, but the narrator still obviously loves his children...
Came home four, four-thirty, Emma was waiting up for me
News chanel drone on the TV, her arms clasped around her knee
She looked up but said nothing
I went up to the kids bedroom, touched their sleeping faces
Wondered how I could protect them
Wondered how to protect them
I do like lyrics that invite you to hang on your own personal interpretation...
I always interpreted the narrator in this one as being a police officer on riot duty.
Interesting, Tony, thanks for that, a nice new interpretation of this great song!
It's the first verse that leads me to interpret it like that;
"Pushing up on Carlisle Road into the seething shadows
Through the plastic visor - a hail of broken kerbstone
Fire-lit faces, all the noise - so much hatred
What I remember thinking - I can't believe this is happening
All I remember thinking..."
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I always interpreted the narrator in this one as being a police officer on riot duty.
Me too and somewhere in the far recess of my mind I seem to recall reading that in an interview
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Carlisle Road
The song:
The song "describes the aftermath of the 2001 race riots in Bradford from the point of view of a riot cop coming home in the early hours, still unable to believe what he has witnessed, standing over his children's beds and wondering how he will ever be able to protect them from the world."
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NMA at their most romantic is Live.
No amount of playing songs to someone whos not keen will work (in my humble opinion)
My wife was never a real fan despite me playing NMA songs almost daily.
Took her to a few gigs, she stood at the back or side of the venue, still never really got them.
Did a few more gigs and got her to stand at the front and told her to watch Justin, she turned to me last year at the end of the gig in Hannover smiled and said "I get it now"
And now shes loves them.
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Carlisle Road
The song:
The song "describes the aftermath of the 2001 race riots in Bradford from the point of view of a riot cop coming home in the early hours, still unable to believe what he has witnessed, standing over his children's beds and wondering how he will ever be able to protect them from the world."
- Source: Cathi Unsworth in 3 am Magazine -
NMA at their most romantic is Live.
No amount of playing songs to someone whos not keen will work (in my humble opinion)
My wife was never a real fan despite me playing NMA songs almost daily.
Took her to a few gigs, she stood at the back or side of the venue, still never really got them.
Did a few more gigs and got her to stand at the front and told her to watch Justin, she turned to me last year at the end of the gig in Hannover smiled and said "I get it now"
And now shes loves them.
If you could do 'likes' on here this would get one from me! Nice story :-)
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Between Dog & Wolf - described by JS as a winter love song
Yes, if i am right he said last night in Paris that it was "born" in Ivry sur Seine, a Paris suburb...he said it already a few years ago in another Paris gig... ;)
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1. Ballad 2 (no question)
2. Space
3. Living in the rose
4. Afternoon song
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for what it's worth, so late in the game....
romance...? the closest i can come, myself and very, very personally-speaking, is Caslen....
there's a depth of beauty in that, for me, with and without lyrics, that makes it one of the most expressive song justin's yet written.
for me, that's a stop-and-put-my-head-down-and-feel-it moment.
youtube.com/watch?v=xU69c4kqOsU
romance, as a dance, as a moment in time.
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Perhaps Caslen is the only solo song written by Nelson and later added lyrics by Justin official released ?
For me it is "Sooner or later" - bittersweet romantic
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Between Dog & Wolf - described by JS as a winter love song
Yes, if i am right he said last night in Paris that
it was "born" in Ivry sur Seine, a Paris suburb...
he said it already a few years ago in another Paris gig... ;)
You're terrific, Guillaume! :D Thanks for mentioning that crucial bit of NMA/JS musical trivia. :)
Do you have a clip of that somewhere? You're awesome at sourcing and posting videos. 8)
Guillaume, are you going to JS' solo show at New Morning in Paris, this May? ???
I'm trying to convert my girlfriend into a NMA fan, with v little success. I've managed to convert her with surprising success to many of my other favourites. Then 1 day I happened to play Family Life & she told me (in an almost aggrieved tone) that it was the most romantic NMA song I'd ever played her & I realised that the worth of music, to her, is measured by how 'romantic' it is. So now I'm trying to compile her a CD based on this criteria. The trouble is NMA doesn't really write traditional love songs. After a strong start with Queen of My Heart, Knife, Love Songs & 11 Years I'm left. :-\ Any ideas?
I wasn't around when this thread was originally created. Was off here for seven difficult years. Anyway, this is an extremely interesting topic. :)
She doesn't like NMA? Dump her! Immediately!
lol, Master Ray's kidding here, but I actually would let her go, gently of course. NMA/JS mean far too much to me, that if I was with someone who couldn't stomach NMA/JS' music or gigs, I wouldn't even consider pursuing... no matter how hot, sexy, or great they are at (insert sought after + preferred physical activity here). ;)
I'd love to hear from those of you here, for whom converting others has worked, and from those of you who were able to win over your significant others OR your significant other won you over, got you into loving NMA/JS' music / gigs. Please, be specific = songs, etc.
1. Exactly, what worked for you?
2. What didn't work? Why?
3. Did you take them to a gig first or did you share NMA/JS recordings with them first?
4. How long did it take to win them or you over? Could be the amount of time or number of songs or gigs it took.
5. Does your significant other ever hassle or criticize you at all, about NMA/JS' music or going to more than one NMA/JS gig? If you answered yes, how do you both work things out, deal with it?
The questions are open to anyone and everyone. Hope to hear from whomever cares to answer, share helpful tips. Cheers! :)
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You're terrific, Guillaume! :D Thanks for mentioning that crucial bit of NMA/JS musical trivia. :)
Do you have a clip of that somewhere? You're awesome at sourcing and posting videos. 8)
Guillaume, are you going to JS' solo show at New Morning in Paris, this May? ???
Thank you 8!
Here's Justin talking about "Ivry sur Seine" before playing BDAW:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwJqxxBpBng&ab_channel=MarcusEbm
I don't know if i will be at the New Morning yet
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Thank you 8! Here's Justin talking about "Ivry sur Seine" before playing BDAW:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwJqxxBpBng&ab_channel=MarcusEbm
OMG!! I've never seen this clip before!! Mr. Sullivan says it in French! :D I wonder how fluent he is? How fantastic! I can't tell you how thankful and utterly grateful I am that you still float and post here, Guillaume! Seriously, I'd be lost without your help and thoughtful threads, immense kindness, and countless contributions. :)
I don't know if i will be at the New Morning yet.
I pray you get to see JS' solo show at New Morning next month, especially because I can't wait to read your personal review! I value and appreciate fan reviews more than those of journalists. I'm just weird that way. Thank YOU SO much Guillaume for taking the time to answer / post. :D Have a pleasant day! :D
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Thank you very much 8!! ;) 8)