when the lyrics were posted the song grew a bit more in my head, this has alwys been the main part and connection for me to nma songs.
Interesting...English is not my native language so when i listen to NMA's songs for the first time i'm mostly reacting to the melodies, choruses, rythms, how the words sound...before translating the words.
I really cannot compare those two songs, because to me "watch and learn" is not a proper release, so you can listen to a song and this live footage we have is only a document to me. it lacks of such a good sound, that i would feel comfortable to compare it to the studio recorded version of "end of days".
And that's also why i listened only once to "watch and learn", liked the performance and the document of that concert, always wishing that i could have been there, and it made me look forward to the release of "from here". when the lyrics were posted the song grew a bit more in my head, this has always been the main part and connection for me to nma songs.
i think the release of the single "winter" was the first release of a new song or album which i instantly liked. and so was "end of days". all the others i just had to let it grow a bit more, give them time to fully get into them. there were always little things, a chorus, a strange change of the melody or whatever which kind of got my head going instead of pure emotions, which came later when i could make sense of it.
you mentioned the "whatever it's properly termed" part of the song;-) and that it was lacking something for you. i do think otherwise. i found the last part of that part to be fantastically noisy and a big boost, which i didn't expect. i think the word "brutal" came up here and i think it fits good. i like that part a lot the building up and the soft guitar...now my capabilities of expressing musical terms is limited but i say it's fantastic!;-)
"End of days" is rather effective, first listen i was like: "Meh...ok song". Now after 4/5 more playing i think it's a pretty good song...maybe not great NMA but still pretty good.
"Watch and learn"...2/3 playings of it on the not so good Youtube link...i'm not a fan of it...the chorus and music falls a bit flat, contrived...but wait and see when the album version will be released.
I hope that "From here" will bring lots of inspired catchy melodies and choruses as usual with NMA...the passion is always there on each new album but inspiration can be slightly more uneven at times, i wouldn't like NMA to repeat/rehash themselves too heavily...in all cases there are always 3 or 4 very good moments/songs on each one of their last albums so what i am saying here? :D
Interesting...English is not my native language so when i listen to NMA's songs for the first time i'm mostly reacting to the melodies, choruses, rhythms, how the words sound...before translating the words.
Afraid I can't post a valid opinion until I hear the 'proper' version of 'WAL'... bit like cooking up a casserole and, part way through, you have a taste and think 'hmmm... needs a bit more seasoning'... So it's EOD for me, but let's see what we think in August... hey, I wasn't terribly fond of 'Die Trying' until I heard the finished version! :)
EOD is growing (for WAL I´m waiting for a better recorded version)
cthulhu mentioned a big boost (perhaps a brutal one) -well, that partly was inspired by a comment of huwcamden in the end of days thread:
I gotta disagree about the production, it is absolutely brutal, taking the rawness and edge of vengeance and winter and upping it a few gears, awesome.and the comparison of opinions with 8 about the middle part, where i found the last bit to be fantastically "noisy", which i quite like. distortioooonnn!;-)
for me that`s best and only in the song Archway Towers (lp or live ones 2013)i agree, those moments are always very intense.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Afraid I can't post a valid opinion until I hear the 'proper' version of 'WAL'... bit like cooking up a casserole and, part way through, you have a taste and think 'hmmm... needs a bit more seasoning'... So it's EOD for me, but let's see what we think in August... hey, I wasn't terribly fond of 'Die Trying' until I heard the finished version! :)EOD is growing (for WAL I´m waiting for a better recorded version)
Thanks very much for both of your posts, Master Ray & lotus. :)
Yeah, I'm beginning to realise that I really jumped the gun with this thread. Couldn't help myself. I'm so fcukin' thrilled to have some fresh new NMA songs to listen to, that it didn't occur to me that most folks might need a bit more time to digest or process the two songs at hand, in a more traditional manner, via a proper recording. All excited and no one to really talk about the songs to, at length. Ah, well... sucks to be me. :-[