article 20 tobacco products directive

[Pol]

Thought I would post this to let people know what the future of e cigs / vaping might be. This has currently been passed by the European Parliament and is due to come in on May 2016. Totally wicked have appealed against this and the case will be decided on 23/12/2015. So what's it all about.

No bottles over 10ml , No tanks over 2ml
Highest nicotine strength will be 20mg/ml
Very expensive toxicology tests to be carried out on all batches of liquids 6 months before they come to market
Leak free bottles during refilling
Products must deliver a completely constant dose per puff
No advertising

Will post a few links that will explain it better

[Pol]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tUg4MExQxmw

Will start of with a somewhat angry blast.

So what's my story. I was a med/heavy smoker for 35 years smoking about 20 cigs or the equivalent in rolling tobacco per day. My breathing was starting to suffer and I had a almost constant cough. I've been using e cigs for the past 11 months and not smoked a single cig in that time. I feel a lot better now I'm not constantly short of breath and the cough has gone. Yes I class myself now as a experienced fairly hardcore vaper , I have 4 batteries and 6 tanks currently n make my own liquids.
I'm not saying for a minute that e cigs / liquids are perfect   personally I feel that there is nothing wrong with the batteries and tanks I choose to use. Maybe the liquids market could be better regulated with spot checks etc n not extremely expensive checks on every batch

[Pol]

This is Les who owns the juice cabin in Yorkshire, a small e liquid company that he has built up himself from scratch and his opinion

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rkFbMqTfMJI

[Pol]

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/105139

If you don't agree with the decision

[Pol]

Last one for now

http://joyetech.co.uk/blog/2381/big-tobacco-are-they-really-controlling-the-vaping-market/

[Shush]

Signed it.

[Mike]

Signed ages ago. Put it this way - if the legislation sticks, I'm voting out of the EU.

[Pol]

Had a thought on this a few days ago n shared it on a couple of youtube blogs.

It seems to me that the government doesn't want you to stop smoking, think about it your average smoker probably pays about £20 or lots more in some cases on the excise duty alone each week, that's a £1000 a year for every smoker multiple that by the 2.6 million regular ecig users in the UK and you can see just how much money they are losing. Another point smokers die younger and tend to working class or poorer people, so if they can find a healthier option they might live longer meaning more state pension.
The English medical council backed up by top doctors in their field issues a report stating that ecigs are 95% safer than tobacco yet the government stills rushes to the European Parliament to back the introduction of article 20 tpd.

Another point I didn't realise the ban on averting will include all youtube reviews even ones from outside Europe.

Seems like the government doesn't give a fck about your health all the care about is getting as much money as possible. If they really did then why not ban tobacco altogether and do everyone a favour

[Master Ray]

Of course they are, mate.  Smoking brings in over £12 billion quid a year in taxes.  For the record, it's about £1.4 billion to treat smoking related illnesses... fags are a huge money earner for the government.  But they can't be seen in favour of smoking, can they?  Not when thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of people are giving up ciggies and are therefore cutting off that great big cash pipeline...

Rest assured, vaping will be taxed to all fuckery in the coming years.   

[Pol]

But its not the matter of taxing e liquids / e cigs and consumables that gets me I could get that if that was the case. Of course nobody wants to pay more. What gets me is there doing it in such a way that only the big tobacco will be able to manufacture e liquids and the devices. All your high street shops vaporized etc won't have nothing to sell just the small expensive ciggie likes and guess who owns the only one of them to meet the proposed regulations yes you guessed it Phillip Morris a big tobacco firm. All the juice company's will have to pay £1000s for every batch in every nicotine strength and every pg/vg ratio and of course 99% of them wouldn't be able to afford it

[Pol]

The future

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uSUueLldHuM