Why Didn't New Model Army Ever Become Big?

[Master Ray]

um, NMA are more relevant to people on an NMA Forum...

 

[Space]

um, NMA are more relevant to people on an NMA Forum...

Your "logic" can easily be disproven:

A) I am a people.
B) I am on an NMA forum.
C) The Beatles are more relevant to me than New Model Army.

If you were correct in your logic, C would state NMA is more relevant to me than The Beatles.
It doesn't state that.
Your theorem is invalid.

[justanotheronethen]

The Beatles - just a band

[The Ghost of Cain]

It's a question I've wondered myself, but then it could be applied to any number of artists in a variety of creative fields. There's no accounting for taste and popularity isn't an indication of merit, but often a pandering to the lowest common denominator. Van Gogh sold one painting in his lifetime, the Spice Girls have sold over 85 million records. Perhaps one day NMA will receive a posthumous reappraisal, that spurs massive record sales, though I won't hold my breath.

[Red]

um, NMA are more relevant to people on an NMA Forum...

Your "logic" can easily be disproven:

A) I am a people.
B) I am on an NMA forum.
C) The Beatles are more relevant to me than New Model Army.

If you were correct in your logic, C would state NMA is more relevant to me than The Beatles.
It doesn't state that.
Your theorem is invalid.

I know I said I wasn't going to comment again

But here you are belittling true NMA fans on a NMA forum

It's seriously about time you did one and left us all alone

Go to your Beatles or Motley Crue forum

Goodbye and good riddance

We don't need this shit!!!!

[Master Ray]

um, NMA are more relevant to people on an NMA Forum...

Your "logic" can easily be disproven:

A) I am a people.
B) I am on an NMA forum.
C) The Beatles are more relevant to me than New Model Army.

If you were correct in your logic, C would state NMA is more relevant to me than The Beatles.
It doesn't state that.
Your theorem is invalid.

Friend, I started a thread about 'Beatles vs Stones', I know damn well how much I love The Beatles.  Certainly better than those annoying Stones... 

I was talking about 'people' on this Forum, not the world in general.  There's a whole internet of world out there with many different opinions.

Relevance is, er, relevant to the context upon which it falls on, sir.  Here, NMA are more 'relevant' than The Beatles... much as I love John Paul George and Ringo...

Twilight Zone...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORbseYAkzRM 

 

[Amandistan]

But musical taste is subjective. It's pointless to argue about what is better. I really don't care how many records any band sells as long as I like the music.

[dilla]

NMA are an on going entity and therefore much more relevant than The Beatles.

For the first decade of the 2000s, you know who the biggest selling band in the world was? Uhh, it was The Beatles. Wasn't U2, wasn't Metallica, errr, wasn't New Model Army. The band that sold the most records in the '00s was a band that broke up 45 years ago.

And I have news for you. I guarantee you that just this past week The Beatles sold more records than New Model Army did. On what planet are you living in which New Model Army are more relevant than The Beatles? My God, yeah, maybe on your turntable in your bedroom NMA are more relevant; but the world is more than your bedroom, and in that world (we call it Earth) The Beatles are more relevant than New Model Army.

We all know(without your patronising statistics)that the Beatles outsell NMA.Did you really think any of us here thought otherwise?
There's a difference between the words "biggest selling" and "relevant".Since we are on an NMA forum and not a Beatles forum,I suggest NMA are more relevant.
Since,by your own admission,first thoughts can often be mistaken,maybe all those people who bought Beatles albums now regret it

New Model Army are more relevant than The Beatles?!? Man, at first I thought this place was a Motley Crue forum; now I realize it is a Twilight Zone forum.

[jackroadkill]

The Beatles - just a band

Minor Freat - just a band.

[pjevac]

People, stop being childish, arguing about who's more relevant between NMA and the Beatles is like argument about was Da Vinci a greater genius then Tesla or vice versa, makes no sense and makes us all look stupid, and I'd like to believe that we're not. It's clear that there wouldn't be one without the other or the the path of the later ones, in this case NMA, would be a lot different if the Beatles didn't happen two decades earlier... Everything happens for a reason and everything happens in its time.
Just as a matter of coincidence those two are my all time favorite bands. And of course the Beatles mean a lot more to many more people around the world, which definitely makes them more influential, which, on the other hand, does not mean they're more or less relevant, because, as we all know, there might be a band in a garrage next door to your second cousin's summer house that are in fact the greatest band in the world at the moment, but only your second cousin knows it, because he's the only one who has herd them play...
Anyway, The Beatles are big. And NMA are big as well. Maybe for a different reason, but in fact they are. At least they are big to me. And it does count. I hope they're big to you too.

[claireinblack]

I've seen a few interviews where Justin says they play what they like when they like to whom they like

Total artistic freedom to do anything they want to whether we like it or not!

Never mind sell out arena gigs or hugh record sales, that to me is a sure sign they have made it!

As for the Beatles, can't stand them personally....!!

[Shush]

People, stop being childish, arguing about who's more relevant between NMA and the Beatles is like argument about was Da Vinci a greater genius then Tesla or vice versa, makes no sense and makes us all look stupid, and I'd like to believe that we're not. It's clear that there wouldn't be one without the other or the the path of the later ones, in this case NMA, would be a lot different if the Beatles didn't happen two decades earlier... Everything happens for a reason and everything happens in its time.
Just as a matter of coincidence those two are my all time favorite bands. And of course the Beatles mean a lot more to many more people around the world, which definitely makes them more influential, which, on the other hand, does not mean they're more or less relevant, because, as we all know, there might be a band in a garrage next door to your second cousin's summer house that are in fact the greatest band in the world at the moment, but only your second cousin knows it, because he's the only one who has herd them play...
Anyway, The Beatles are big. And NMA are big as well. Maybe for a different reason, but in fact they are. At least they are big to me. And it does count. I hope they're big to you too.

Quite agree pjevac. No idea why this topic has slipped into an NMA "V" Beatles debate which would be impossible to judge as they are totally different bands. The topic which "Space deleted went down the same route for some reason.
Personally I like some of the later Beatles stuff and have a couple of albums. I like NMA more, and that's my personal choice, but I refuse to be compelled to dislike the Beatles because of these  debates.   

[Pol]

I have a interview from November 2013 from the Sunday mail (not to be confused with the mail on Sunday lol) where Justin states that he is proud that the band have never had a 'hit' single as it gives the band freedom to play what they want, he mentions chumbawumba and how tub thumping had destroyed the band. He always mentions how back in the day the band were always seen as outsiders and couldn't be trusted to say the right thing The interview is titled we did it like we meant it !

[Pol]

Always thought Beatles were ugly looking cars

[Bunny]

Who cares about big or hit singles. The Spice Girls accomplished both. So as good as the Beatles and better than NMA?
Uhhh.....Nah. My dad however is bigger than yours.