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Shush

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Re: Syria
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2015, 09:51:27 AM »
I agree with you Castle siege comparison,  but feel it helps my point. Your Castle under siege can have as much civilian population as military inside who will all suffer the same. Oil fields are not a military target they are an economic target. Yes it will hurt Isis, but that hurt will be felt by all in Isis territory. Saw a report on the News last night, there was smuggled footage of Isis held city, think it was Raqqa. There they have control of everything, all hospitals, services the lot.

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« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2015, 11:28:27 AM »
Shush I fully agree with you. Its war. Its messy and people will get hurt. But equally people will get hurt without war. And of course they need hospitals. But no-one asked Daesh to take over swathes of land. They did so at gun point.  I understand people being reluctant to bomb and ideally we wouldnt. But the rest of the world has spoken. I dont see how we cant and I cant see a credible alternative.
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Re: Syria
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2015, 10:28:31 AM »
Drummy, I understand your point, but I still feel that we are bombing for the sake of doing something and not because it is a solution. I always found it odd that (we were told) the vast majority of the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi and yet we took out the government of Iraq and through our actions allowed the birth and rapid growth of Isis. The Saudi record on human rights is deplorable and yet they are now somehow on the board. We trade arms for oil with them and yet they follow a very strict version of their religion and are linked to Isis and yet our trade with them remains unaffected.

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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2015, 11:30:28 AM »
Yeah. Im with you completely on Saudi Arabia. I think a lot of funding will be coming from there. Whether that is linked to Government I dont know. We can only guess. I do beleive however that Iraq was a destabilizer in the Middle East. The invasion of Kuwait by them was money orientated. I also beleive that Terrorist camps were set up in Afghanistan as they are in Iraq now. That is why I beleive we have to do this now. If not now, when is inevitable. Cameron, as much as I despise him will be blamed for whatever comes with or without doing anything. There will always be information that we aren't being told. I find it hard to beleive that Saudi Arabia is state sponsoring terrorism and our Governments would only go after the smaller fish if so. Oil or not. I also think that the strict Islamic code in Saudi, that its Royal family have made small changes in, would also breed what ISIS are doing. But again I cant say that is state sponsored.
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