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General Category => Everything Else => Topic started by: StourbridgeSteve on November 07, 2011, 08:43:15 PM
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Anyone else planning to see them next March in Wolverhampton? Might have a spare ticket, and don't particularly want to go Billy No-Mates..
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we've got tickets for London (well, we bought them, as per usual we haven't received them yet...)
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we've got tickets for London (well, we bought them, as per usual we haven't received them yet...)
Your not alone on that one Ive not got mine yet either :)
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I am at the London and Oxford dates
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Steve - when is it....? I work in Wolverhampton....
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Steve - when is it....? I work in Wolverhampton....
It's Wednesday 14th March. Haven't sold it yet, so it's still up for grabs, PM me if you're interested, or know anyone else that might be..
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I am at the London and Oxford dates
I'm thinking about going to the Oggsford date....
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Exeter, Bristol and London for me!!! ;)
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For me defo London and possibly Manchester. They were just awesome at the Apollo last year...
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Just Newcastle for me :)
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thanks for the reminder, just ordered tickets for Manchester. I've heard there doing Manchester again in July as well, as to how true it is though
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Didn't know they were on in Manchester....... Been on a Killing Joke kick of late....... ;)
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Got my tickets for Exeter on 4th March.
Seen them 3 times in last couple years - Hammermith Odeon, Bristol Fleece and London Southbank.
They're back to their original best and well worth seeing.
"Absolute Dissent" their most recent album is excellent :)
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http://www.rock-in-den-ruinen.com/
Good Evening @ ,
I hope the link will work
I dont know if that is posted on the board before ....
The Line up for the Rock in den Ruinen festival 28.04.2012
okay last year we saw NMA there and it was really awesome and great :) :) :) :) :) :)
This year the following band will playing
Saxon :)
Phillip Boa & the Voodooclub :)
Killing Joke :)
The Idiots
Peter Pan Speedrockers
Sister Sin
Kopek
and local acts
cheers witch
tickets prices from 12 Euro to 18 Euro
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Going to manchester gig
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Here's a taster of the new stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCsRwRYXFkg&list=UUzVcM6IAYRLgbV9iVykCndw&index=1&feature=plcp
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Doing Manchester.
Great to see original line up again, but do miss Raven's presence on stage.
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Very much looking forward to the new album. My favourite band.
Though I had to chuckle when I read the diatribe on their website that said "The album’s themes are political, anti-capitalist"
And then further down their is an "exclusive" track for itunes only. Yes for that small cottage industry Apple.
And on their facebook page: "But we’ve also put together a list of exclusive items, some of which have never previously been available. We’re giving you the chance to have your copy of the album signed, to get a limited edition screenprint or an album t-shirt, or a Warwick guitar customised by Geordie. The choice is yours. But be aware – some of these items are limited, and when they’re gone – they’re gone."
Erm...right. For anti capitalists, they sure do a good impression of DFS! :D
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Myself I find that far less hypocritical than all those bankers being bailed out by nationalisation or other public money. Anyway this will have to be my final post. I have just realised that the electricity used to power my computer is being produced by capitalists. In the absence of any Cuban owned retailers I'm going to have to live in a mud hut and burn candles until the situation is rectified...
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Myself I find that far less hypocritical than all those bankers being bailed out by nationalisation or other public money. Anyway this will have to be my final post. I have just realised that the electricity used to power my computer is being produced by capitalists. In the absence of any Cuban owned retailers I'm going to have to live in a mud hut and burn candles until the situation is rectified...
But if you are "anti-capitalist", is for example producing overpriced "limited editions" or extra product available ONLY via a channel that would dictate us buying or paying to sign up to a major corporation a good example of "anti-capital". I think not. Produce the product, sell it as produced. Clean and clear. Extend that and you start to sound a tad hypocritical. (I note the NMA dont sell multiples of different types of the same product, and good for them!)
You know full well my other point Guy! That is Im fed up with some of the public, politicians on the "get quick votes" talking about how we've (and "we is an interesting one bacause it is all of us private and public), bailed out "business" when they mean banks. Lets not forget that we businesses have suffered by the people responsible for basically moving money (our money) around to make more money.
Whilst I have no major truck with the HSBC as they have to be fair loaned me what I need over the years to expand and been supportive, I know many friends in business who have perfectly viable propositions and been blanked
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Idopas,
As Jaz once said the joke is on us all and it will eventually kill us all (or something very similar ???) I also love Killing Joke but to function as a band and individuals they need the cash......But I too like to see the ideals (anti-capatalist or otherwise) being visible in how a band operates - so I agree with you on the irony of their latest KJ product ventures! However I guess we don't live in that utopia we'd all like.....Lets hope the new album lives up to the hype!
P.S Reminds me of the old EMI/NMA/Conflict debate.....but lets not revisit that one!
F X
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Myself I find that far less hypocritical than all those bankers being bailed out by nationalisation or other public money. Anyway this will have to be my final post. I have just realised that the electricity used to power my computer is being produced by capitalists. In the absence of any Cuban owned retailers I'm going to have to live in a mud hut and burn candles until the situation is rectified...
I love the sarcasm in this........ ;D sorry I can't help but laugh! genius......
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Myself I find that far less hypocritical than all those bankers being bailed out by nationalisation or other public money. Anyway this will have to be my final post. I have just realised that the electricity used to power my computer is being produced by capitalists. In the absence of any Cuban owned retailers I'm going to have to live in a mud hut and burn candles until the situation is rectified...
I love the sarcasm in this........ ;D sorry I can't help but laugh! genius......
Its not new though, Have I Got News For You did it much better when Louise Bagshaw talked about the Occupy protestors using Starbucks and they took the piss out of her in the same way.
While it is sarcastic, it is also silly and not the point.
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Idopas,
As Jaz once said the joke is on us all and it will eventually kill us all (or something very similar ???) I also love Killing Joke but to function as a band and individuals they need the cash......But I too like to see the ideals (anti-capatalist or otherwise) being visible in how a band operates - so I agree with you on the irony of their latest KJ product ventures! However I guess we don't live in that utopia we'd all like.....Lets hope the new album lives up to the hype!
P.S Reminds me of the old EMI/NMA/Conflict debate.....but lets not revisit that one!
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Yepp completely take your point!
However they do need to make money, but there is making it and pissing about with product to make more from the original by adding tiny bits of value. That was my point really F, Im in business and that is what we do, but I AM a capitalist and proud of it! 8)
However Im with you my friend KJ are unique and brilliant and I very much look forward to their new album. Which I will buy, and probably will have no moral dillemma in obtaining the extra track by other means! :D
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Anyone know what this is about?? I just spotted it on KJs website. I've been watching them for over 20 years and have only once seen any nazis at a gig. It was in Portsmouth about 12 years ago and the 3 drunk seigheiling morons in question got beaten to shit by several like minded individuals in the audience.
JUST SO IT’S ABSOLUTELY CLEAR
February 8, 2012
Killing Joke have zero tolerance to any way of life that causes harm to others. We honestly cannot believe that in the year 2012 ANYONE would have an issue with people’s sexuality, race or disability.
Killing Joke have always been an instrument designed to poke fun at authority, greed, and stupidity, not to strip people (of any creed or kind) of their dignity.
Without stooping to the level of ‘Some our best friends are gay’ etc, it really shouldn’t come as much surprise to anyone that scrapes below the surface, that this band was born out of countercultural movements (good and bad) and from the kind of clubs where ANY degree of misguided prejudice would have been swiftly dealt with.
The quote that people are getting in a twist about (which will be given no dignity here) was printed uncredited in Zig Zag magazine 27 years ago and even at the time the band denied saying it, following their horror at their recent visit to the death camps that year.
The only group of people that were singled out by the band were the hypocrites of organised religion, made the target of satire on the cover of the singles album ‘Laugh I Nearly Bought One’ which features on the front Catholic dignitaries being Nazi Saluted. This was a comment,again, of the hypocrisy of organised religion.
In summary … if anyone out there thinks that we as a band are homophobic, racist, facist or anything of the sort and feel this is a positive ,the message is ,stay away from us.
Is that clear now?
Killing Joke
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dunno, but there was a bit of accustaion shit ove imagery and wearing uniforms on stage etc etc....... There's always some dodge pot out t stir up a hornets nest from a dust pile mate.......
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Apparently It was in response to Peter Tatchell accusing Killing Joke of being homophobic, and trying to get their Roundhouse gig cancelled.
Something to do with an interview from the early 80's where Jaz mentions 'faggots'. Might have been on channel 4's 'Whatever you want'.
Paule
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If anyone's interested Killing Joke were pretty damn good last night. It was total noise last night and a mix of being tired from work and a couple of pints seemed to agree with me and the sound washed over me. I'm assuming they played some material of their new soon to be released CD as some of the songs were unfamiliar but even so no tracks disappointed and were mixed with a few greatest hits and stuff form Absolute Dissent. It's only the second time I've seen them in their 30 odd year history, the first time last year, but I will make a point of seeing them when they come around again. They seemed to have kept a loyal fan base looking at the age of the audience, not dissimilar from a NMA crowd really probably just a few more of them.
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I agree - I went to the Roundhouse gig on Thurs night, one of the best times I've seen them. Check out the new single its top........
http://www.killingjoke.com/2012/03/in-cythera/
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I was at the Roundhouse too - fairly good gig but not as good as the last time I'd seen them (Hammersmith, 2 years ago) in my opinion. This was probably due to a) the sound bit rather shite (at least where I was standing) and b) the fact that they played quite a few new songs, which nobody really knew yet cos the album's not out.
Had a good time though, especially the second half of the set when the older songs came in, looking forward to the new album.
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I was at Roundhouse too - agree with the fan similarity to NMA, although the fanbase is a fair bit larger. Saw a few NMA t-shirts and a 30th anniversary hoody.
Liked the two projection screen backdrops.
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No projectors in Manchester, just standard light show, still a brilliant set. Love Like Blood was fantastic, Atseroid aswell........ The whole set really. Great night out......
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I was at the Roundhouse too - fairly good gig but not as good as the last time I'd seen them (Hammersmith, 2 years ago) in my opinion. This was probably due to a) the sound bit rather shite (at least where I was standing) and b) the fact that they played quite a few new songs, which nobody really knew yet cos the album's not out.
Had a good time though, especially the second half of the set when the older songs came in, looking forward to the new album.
Totally agree
The sound at the Roundhouse is appalling - Seen the Dropkicks Murphys and The Damned there over the past couple of months and everytime the sound is so bad you cannot hear a word of the lead vocal. Thought it was a bit better for KJ, but not much. Going to the Oxford gig next Saturday too so the new songs will get a second airing for me.
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Manchester was superb.
Spent the night on the barrier between Jaz and Geordie, shielding my 15 year old daughter from the crush!
Enjoyed the mix of old and new in the set. Sound wasn't as bad as it can be at the academy.
Bruised but happy. :)
Paule
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Off to Newcastle Academy on Tuesday, not seen them in Toon since they played Newcastle University. Looking forward to hearing some of the new stuff, "festival sets" get a bit monotonous after a while. Was there an encore at Manchester, mate said there wasn`t one at Sheffield?
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Yep encore on Saturday mate. Love Like Blood, Ghosts Of Ladbrooke grove (I think) and Wardance, Requiem, The Wait Psyyche and Asteroid all in the set. Unspeakable and European Superstate aswell.
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The full set list for Saturdays Academy gig was:-
01.European Superstate
02.Sun Goes down
03.Rapture
04.Fema Cam
05.Unspeakable
06.Bloodsport
07.Pole Shift
08.Chop Chop
09.Tension
10.Depth Charge
11.Asteroid
12.Great Cull
13.Corporate Elect
14.The Wait
15.Pssyche
16.Wardance
17.Requim
18.Primobile
19.Love Like Blood
I heard the reason for no encore at Sheffield was because they were suffering from flu?
The Manchester show was uploaded on Dime yesterday. I recorded it as well along with several other apparently
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All sounds promising :) For some reason I've stopped getting notifications for this thread - still got the spare Wolverhampton ticket if anyone wants it!
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did 7 of the 11 uk tour dates and I thought Killing Joke were on top form, enjoyed every one and the 6 new songs off '2012' the new album sounded brilliant, 'the great cull' and 'sun goes down' were fantastic every time.
let's hope Jaz is wrong and the world doesn't end this year, so we can have more albums and gigs from them
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Was at Oxford last night - really enjoyed it, much better sound than at the Roundhouse. The Wait leading straight into Physsche was my highlight - looking forward to the new album.
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Today I was reading my music magazine and the new Killing Joke album comes out on my bday on the 30 th of march :)
Very happy about it
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Yep encore on Saturday mate. Love Like Blood, Ghosts Of Ladbrooke grove (I think) and Wardance, Requiem, The Wait Psyyche and Asteroid all in the set. Unspeakable and European Superstate aswell.
Just encores of Wardance & Love Like Blood in Newcastle. Didn`t do the other two.
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Just had a first listen to the new album, put up on Spotify early! Erm.....not impressed really, apart from the really nice single In Cythera and a couple of tracks...it all sound a bit messy and a bit of a effort. Nothing really stands out and the nearly 9 minute Pole Shift that starts it is long, too long on time and too short on tune!
As they are my favourite band....I will of course give it more listens. But their last albums Killing Joke, Hosannas (less so but still good) and Absolute Dissent hit me straight off. This one...well erm....
Anyway, opinions?
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Just had a first listen to the new album, put up on Spotify early! Erm.....not impressed really, apart from the really nice single In Cythera and a couple of tracks...it all sound a bit messy and a bit of a effort. Nothing really stands out and the nearly 9 minute Pole Shift that starts it is long, too long on time and too short on tune!
As they are my favourite band....I will of course give it more listens. But their last albums Killing Joke, Hosannas (less so but still good) and Absolute Dissent hit me straight off. This one...well erm....
Anyway, opinions?
I think it's brilliant!
:)
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So I finally conquered my disappointment at not catching them live and bought the album....
I'm with ldopas 100% on Pole Shift. Its too long and instantly forgettable. The lyrics are a bit bland and you almost think that Jaz is running out of potential causes for the apocalypse he has been predicting for so long? Definitely the wrong track for an opener.
As for the rest of it after a few listens I actually think its pretty good. Geordie's guitar work is as precise as ever though its the most conventional stuff he has written (in rock terms) and the least Killing Joke like. The studio work is not unlike Nighttime and Pandemonium though it does not plumb the over-production depths of Brighter Than A Thousand Suns. Its not an immediate classic that grabs you in the way that recent albums like Killing Joke (2) and Absolute Dissent did. But its a grower and worth the tenner it cost. I suppose like all their songs only seeing them performed live will be the litmus test. So much as I utterly oppose arena gigs I think I may have to blag a press pass for this abomination coming up at Wembley.
Finally is it just me or does this Afghan boxer I snapped in January display an uncanny likeness for Jaz in the early eighties?
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5450/7061635495_9e9f843c38_z.jpg)
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I'm with ldopas 100% ......
When I read this I had to sit down and have a stiff drink! :P
Only joking boys!
I've got the album too and I've now given it about 3 listens. Certainly not an instant "hit" with me but the more familiar the songs on it are becoming the better I'm liking it.
Feels like a grower to me.
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I'm with ldopas 100% ......
When I read this I had to sit down and have a stiff drink! :P
Only joking boys!
I've got the album too and I've now given it about 3 listens. Certainly not an instant "hit" with me but the more familiar the songs on it are becoming the better I'm liking it.
Feels like a grower to me.
Hey man...we do agree on things now and again!!!! Often we agree to disagree! :-)
I must admit that Ive bought it and listened to it a number of times and it is a lot better than I first thought.
My favourite track is actually the one you can only get if you download the album on iTunes (naughty that was though making us buy from Apple). That is New Uprising...love it.
Ive also ordered the In Cythera CD EP to get the other new track Penny Drops, havent heard that one yet.
So lets hope NMA drop an album this year...then my 2 favourite bands will have done good in 2012!!!!!
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Good evening at all had a great time 2 days ago at the Rock in den Ruinen festival with 2 favs band Phillip Boa & the Voodooclub and Killing Joke
I hope the link will work
http://www.ruhrnachrichten.de/storage/scl/mdhl/artikelbilder/lokales/rn/dolo/do-hoerde/2898965_m3t1w564h376q75v28905_s-philipp_boa.jpg
The same for this link
http://www.ruhrnachrichten.de/storage/pic/mdhl/artikelbilder/lokales/rn/dolo/do-hoerde/2822950_1_s-killing_joke
stood in the first row ...