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Title: new album your hopes
Post by: Pol on March 29, 2015, 11:28:45 AM
Ok before i start this thread I'm in no way saying/telling nma what to do.

So the lads are about to enter the studio to start work on a album. What are your wishes for it if got your way.

I would like to see Marshall given more freedom to cut loose on the guitar, maybe a song with more keyboards kinda Rammstein ish in a nma style.
Would love a song where Justin shares the vocals with a guest singer, maybe a female someone with a really good voice maybe similar to Annie Lennox

Ok dream on as another band said.

So What's your wishful thinking
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: MARKXE on March 29, 2015, 11:45:22 AM
An XXL lyrics sheet for those of us who's arms are not quite long enough anymore  ;)
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Space on March 29, 2015, 03:31:21 PM
Stuart Morrow returns as the bass player.
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Master Ray on March 29, 2015, 06:15:15 PM
Stuart Morrow returns as the bass player.

Space, I won't dignify that with a response...

What next?  Who knows... NMA have said that BDAW was such a progression from they called 'band in a room' albums. Wouldn't themselves going 'back to basics' be an enormous step back?  I know a lot of bands do that after a bit of diversity that didn't go down well with the fanbase... but BDAW is in my (and a lot of other peoples) opinion, an utter highpoint in their thirty-plus years that went down so damn well wherever and whenever... where to, next?

I'd love to see the lads continue to twist and stretch their usual sound into something that we haven't heard before... what do I mean by that?  I dunno, I'm not an immensely talented musician like all of the NMA guys are.  And if you don't like the album, then heck, go and see 'em live... you're never a couple of tunes away from 'Purity' or 'Vengeance' or whatever...

My worst case scenario... an album that sounds like something we've heard before, just reheated.  We've been there. NMA is better than that.

 :(







Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Rusco on March 29, 2015, 06:41:49 PM
I am satisfied with everything they've done.
However, if there's something I'd like to hear more it's the awesome synth compositions that Dean White have arranged on couple of last albums. With that, it would be nice to hear more that great virtuosity Marshall is known for. I love the way he does those "western" and echoey sounds in live songs such as Attack and Lean Back & Fall.

I am very happy with the intense way they've seemed to explore the songs at rehearses and studios.
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Anna Woman von NRW on March 29, 2015, 06:58:07 PM
Stuart Morrow returns as the bass player.

Well, unless Ceri ends up doing a stretch inside on a GBH charge against you, I can't see him leaving NMA any time soon.

Markxe - wise words, I can't read the lyrics anymore either  :)

As ever, I just wanna hear whatever comes next. But I do like the idea from Pol about co-vocalists. I think that could be really interesting.

Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Shush on March 29, 2015, 07:17:21 PM
If they do choose to have a female co-vocalist on a track, Sozbot would be perfect for the job.  ;)
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: szmurf on March 29, 2015, 09:03:52 PM
I just received confirmation that the live CD just shipped, so I'll be focused on that for a while.  I don't really expect the band to put out an album every year or so, but if they do, then great.  Can't say I expect anything or am looking for anything specific.
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Intothewind on March 30, 2015, 09:04:08 AM
I'm willing to take it as it comes on this one.

There are many bands who I would love to have a hand in what they do next, but I am prepared to let NMA have this one. If I could say one thing I personally don't mind them taking their time and coming up with the best work they can.

I would, however love a new Justin Sullivan solo album.....
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: jackroadkill on March 30, 2015, 03:37:57 PM
I'd quite like a largely acoustic album, or one that's acoustic rhythm guuitar-led, at any rate, with a fairly dry feel production-wise; that said, it's not my choice and I'll buy whatever the band releases, as I firmly believe that bands should make the music that they want to, not what their fans want.  NMA didn't get where they are today by making the same album multiple times over and I wouldn't want them to start now.
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Darkness on March 30, 2015, 04:19:45 PM
I'd quite like a largely acoustic album
Me too, but just to have another album would be great 8)
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Intothewind on March 31, 2015, 09:01:50 AM
I'd quite like a largely acoustic album
Me too, but just to have another album would be great 8)

I was thinking an acoustic album would be a Justin S solo album, the band should make a full band album I would say... :)
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Intothewind on March 31, 2015, 12:10:02 PM
That's only two new albums...I don't ask for much... :D 
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Ron B on March 31, 2015, 06:13:58 PM


 I have to say since the 30th anniversary shows here in Brooklyn if I am correct was almost 4 years ago NMA  has put out 4 albums 2 live and 2 studio plus the Touring so I have to say  that I am more than satisfied in whatever they put out next My hopes are that it still rocks and Kicks ass Like NMA songs usually do. 8)
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: The Ghost of Cain on March 31, 2015, 06:50:42 PM
Stuart Morrow returns as the bass player.
Well, I'd like to see/hear the return of Ed Alleyne-Johnson!  8)
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Master Ray on March 31, 2015, 06:54:00 PM
Stuart Morrow returns as the bass player.
Well, I'd like to see/hear the return of Ed Alleyne-Johnson!  8)

It would be nice to hear his violin on some new NMA tracks... but here, in South Cheshire, I see him busking plenty of times!
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Anna Woman von NRW on April 01, 2015, 08:01:22 PM
In some ways it seems a bit "back to the future" with the whole violin thing but we all know it works so well that if the new track in hypothetical question needs it then Bring It On  :D

Not overly feeling the need for an acoustic album - seems more like an overdue JS 2nd solo album to me  ;) - and it doesn't feel like that's where the guys are "at" at the moment if ya' see what I mean  ???

Mind you, they're contrary buggers which probably means it'll be Mongolian Throat Singing and an African Drum  ;D

A personal hope - give Marshall as many guitars and recording tracks as he wants and turn every ******* one up to 11  ;D  :-*
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Simon73 on April 02, 2015, 08:35:23 PM
make it 80s style..........make it post punk........make it punk rock.................make it new model army but without coruses such as in some songs of the new mini album. please.
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Master Ray on April 02, 2015, 08:55:28 PM
Belgian Psychedelic Trance with elements of Breakbeat and Nu-jazz or I'll never listen to 'em again...

(yes, I did just google 'dance music trends'...)

 ;)
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Sequoia225 on April 02, 2015, 10:58:17 PM
What ever did NMA do in the past when all the fans weren't able to collectively co-produce their records?
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Intothewind on April 04, 2015, 08:05:10 AM
What ever did NMA do in the past when all the fans weren't able to collectively co-produce their records?

They must have just muddled through. Thank god for the internet!!! ;)
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Intothewind on April 09, 2015, 07:46:50 AM
Ok so listening to the dog and the wolf yesterday it occurred to me that it might be good for NMA to even further out, get even more experimental and push the boat right out to sea.

After dog and the wolf It seems like the obvious thing would be to make another straight ahead noisy, live rock record - a la High (fast becoming one of my favorite NMA albums) But it might be interesting to really try something very new, different and VERY experimental.

I guess I might be on my own....but how would anyone else feel about this? 
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Pol on April 09, 2015, 08:29:34 AM
Whatever happens happens but I'm with you on slightly different, maybe a full on nma take on prog kinda tool ish maybe just one song even. I want the spirit of the band to remain true there not the ever without good reason
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Master Ray on April 09, 2015, 09:04:59 PM
Ok so listening to the dog and the wolf yesterday it occurred to me that it might be good for NMA to even further out, get even more experimental and push the boat right out to sea.

After dog and the wolf It seems like the obvious thing would be to make another straight ahead noisy, live rock record - a la High (fast becoming one of my favorite NMA albums) But it might be interesting to really try something very new, different and VERY experimental.

I guess I might be on my own....but how would anyone else feel about this?

100% up with you on this one.

Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Intothewind on April 13, 2015, 05:41:14 PM
Ok so listening to the dog and the wolf yesterday it occurred to me that it might be good for NMA to even further out, get even more experimental and push the boat right out to sea.

After dog and the wolf It seems like the obvious thing would be to make another straight ahead noisy, live rock record - a la High (fast becoming one of my favorite NMA albums) But it might be interesting to really try something very new, different and VERY experimental.

I guess I might be on my own....but how would anyone else feel about this?



100% up with you on this one.

Although, lord help me I'd kill for another High - Jesus I love that album and the cover, so simple and beautiful.
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Sequoia225 on April 13, 2015, 09:43:15 PM
What ever did NMA do in the past when all the fans weren't able to collectively co-produce their records?

They must have just muddled through. Thank god for the internet!!! ;)

The CORRECT answer to my question was
"They made records we all loved enough to make us big fans."
;)
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Intothewind on April 14, 2015, 07:58:22 AM
What ever did NMA do in the past when all the fans weren't able to collectively co-produce their records?

They must have just muddled through. Thank god for the internet!!! ;)

The CORRECT answer to my question was
"They made records we all loved enough to make us big fans."
;)

Oh yeah I guess they did - these guys are amazing!
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Amandistan on April 22, 2015, 09:15:18 PM
I actually don't really think about that much. I have been pleased with every album released since discovering NMA. I trust the future albums will be the same.

I would love to hear somthing similar to "Navigating by the stars".  I love the nature themed NMA songs best. It's very relatable and comforting to me. 
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Johnz on April 23, 2015, 06:53:24 AM
Ok so listening to the dog and the wolf yesterday it occurred to me that it might be good for NMA to even further out, get even more experimental and push the boat right out to sea.

After dog and the wolf It seems like the obvious thing would be to make another straight ahead noisy, live rock record - a la High (fast becoming one of my favorite NMA albums) But it might be interesting to really try something very new, different and VERY experimental.

I guess I might be on my own....but how would anyone else feel about this?

100% up with you on this one.

Seconded!
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Master Ray on April 23, 2015, 09:41:02 PM
Thirded!
Title: New album musical hopes and dreams...
Post by: 8 on May 28, 2019, 08:08:14 PM
Uh, I hope it's loaded with sad songs, failing that, then love songs.  Always been a sucker for those.  8)

Hopefully there's a nice chunk of tunes featuring all 5 guys on vocal (at the very same time), harmonizing beautifully.  It is solely my opinion that, never in the entire history of New Model Army has there ever been a better group of singers, than there is with this most current line-up of the band - Mr. Sullivan, Mr. Dean, Mr. White, Mr. Gill, Mr. Monger... truly!

I am of the belief that if they set their guts, hearts, minds to it, they could put even bands such as The Beach Boys to shame.  This time 'round, these guys, as a whole-force-unto-itself can sing.  All 5 of their voices meld / fuse so incredibly well together.  I don't think that that has ever happened before within NMA.  Best be taking advantage of this blessing, while the moment is still here.  So, that's what I'll be lookin' to hear... their voices, more so now than ever before, on the up coming new NMA album, 'From Here'.

Hope they've recognised their own potential, capabilities, sensibilities, as a vocal unit in unison, vocal force unto itself.   Less than 3 months to go, now!  Woo-hoo!  So excited !!  :D   
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: King_D on May 29, 2019, 01:21:49 PM
I hope I'll be surprised in a positive way
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Guillaume on May 29, 2019, 05:01:09 PM
I hope it will be less uneven and a bit more inspired than "Winter"!  ;)
Please come back to catchy choruses and melodies!
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Pol on May 29, 2019, 05:13:38 PM
Think it might in some parts at least be a " heavy "  rock album. Hey I'm only going by the 30 sec sampler . The bass was heavy the drums a bit different n Marshalls guitar slightly stoner / Sabbath all pinned on to Justin's acoustic, what are others views
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Master Ray on May 29, 2019, 07:27:42 PM

Well, obviously we all know jackshit but from the album teaser, i'm suspecting something a bit more groovy and... 'slinky', if that means anything.  Less big verse / chorus / verse, more about the bass and drums... and I'm always up for a band who put out an album that's about the rhythm with everything else piled over it, especially when there's a rhythm section as great as the one they've got right now!

But, as I said, we've got very little to go on at this point.  Perhaps if a full track 'drops' (as 'da kids' say nowadays), we might have a better idea?
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Johnz on May 31, 2019, 09:12:44 AM
The two snippets sound quite different. The instrumental one sounds very raw and direct and the bit of Setting Sun sounds quite layered and more polished. It reminds me a bit of Space. So judging from that it might be quite a mix of styles and sounds. Sounds promising so far.
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Coumarin on June 02, 2019, 11:13:32 AM
The little snippets we have been given sound good so far. Looking forward to yet another strong album.
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Marcin D. on June 02, 2019, 09:45:27 PM
We've had an opportunity to hear "Watch And Learn" during the Camden Rocks Festival gig. When Dean took the Gibson I though they would play "Autumn". Suprisingly it was the completely new track. Massive, not exactly tuned, stright forward. I have to get used to it. 8)
Title: WANTED: new song "Watch and Learn" spoilers...
Post by: 8 on June 02, 2019, 11:06:03 PM
We've had an opportunity to hear  "Watch And Learn"  during the Camden Rocks Festival gig.  When Dean took the Gibson I though they would play "Autumn".  Surprisingly it was the completely new track.  Massive, not exactly tuned, straight forward.  I have to get used to it. 8)

Damn, an 'I knew this would happen' kinda lol... This new song 'Watch and Learn', is going to be dogging me for days, now.  Sounds as though we can expect some dissonance then, via this particular song especially?  Is that correct?  I wouldn't know, as I've not heard either a note or word of it yet.  ???

How would you guys describe the pace, is it tribal, fast and thunderous OR somewhat jangly, melodic and mid-range mellow?  ???
What are the lyrics like... piercing, dark and heavy OR a little brighter, happier, hopeful.  ???

Aaack!  desperate lol, help a poor git (me) out.  At this point, I've got nothin' to go on, to go by,  :-\  for cryin' out loud.  Nil.  Nada.  Niente.  'Just anything... Just anyone...'  Please.   :-[
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Simon73 on June 12, 2019, 04:13:49 AM
no idea
but want to keep the surpsise and hear nothing until i will not put my vynil on................
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Whirlwind on June 13, 2019, 12:56:29 AM
want to keep the surpsise and hear nothing until i put my vynil on................
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Exactly.

Why listen to a teaser? These people know they are going to buy the album...why ruin any surprises? Man, just silly and pointless.

An album is still a work of art. You take it in as it is intended to be taken in. Beginning to end. Not in silly snippets two months before.
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: jackroadkill on June 13, 2019, 07:30:22 AM
I hope it's not like BDAW.
Title: I'm ALL for official NMA teasers, reading lyrics (B4 the music), & live versions
Post by: 8 on June 13, 2019, 05:20:49 PM
I don't mind a heads-up on a few of the lyrics, the teasers and hearing the new material live, before the album is released, SO long as the precious recorded official album versions (of the new songs) are NOT leaked before the actual release date.  There's always enough of a difference between the live and recorded versions of NMA songs, in which case the new songs would still have an important, thrilling, element of surprise, edge, when the record finally drops.  I'm so sorry folk here feel quite differently.  :-[
Title: Re: I'm ALL for official NMA teasers, reading lyrics (B4 the music), & live versions
Post by: Whirlwind on June 13, 2019, 07:58:03 PM
I don't mind a heads-up on a few of the lyrics, the teasers ...
But why? You are going to be able to hear the album in 45 days or so. You really can't hold out so you can hear it as it is intended to be heard? Not snippets; rather a full listening experience, surprises and all.

I will get the album the day it comes out and I will settle in and give it a completely fresh listen. You folks here already know much about it. Hell, you are not even excited about the new album. I guess you are looking forward to the album New Model Army will release in 2021...not the one coming in August.
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Pol on June 13, 2019, 09:48:30 PM
It's not about snips , sure I played the official teaser a few times listened to the live track.  It's about the album dropping thru the letter box n sticking on the turntable enjoying the art n getting excited about the live dates . We all see trailers for movies , check live vids for gigs does it change anything for me No .
What we got anyway 30 secs of teasers n a poorly recorded live track from probably 40mins or so .
Title: Re: I'm ALL for official NMA teasers, reading lyrics (B4 the music), & live versions
Post by: 8 on June 15, 2019, 07:33:36 AM
But why?  You are going to be able to hear the album in 45 days or so.  You really can't hold out so you can hear it as it is intended to be heard?  Not snippets; rather a full listening experience, surprises and all.

Whirlindude, remember in the old days, we'd all get slew of singles before LPs were officially released?  Those singles were everywhere, in the shops, on the radio, on MTV, even commercials, etc., remember?  By the way, I'm talking in general, not specifically about NMA.  Beck is an example of a current artist that is still releasing singles well before albums, to this today.  That's how it used to be done.

Anyway, hearing no more than 3 new songs played live, before an album is officially released, for me, is the equivalent of hearing a few singles on the radio, video show, etc. ahead of an album's release date.  I think it's ok, fair... no?  I just don't want to hear the actual recorded versions, until they are officially released.  I loathe it when entire albums are leaked before release dates.  That has actually happened with an NMA album, sometime before 2009, but I've since forgotten which NMA album it was now.  Anyone recall which one it was?  :-\  Care to post?

I will get the album the day it comes out and I will settle in and give it a completely fresh listen.

OMG!  Will you truly Spaceman?  Honestly?  Really?  You won't be adding it to your stash of unheard NMA material?  If so dude, that's fcukin' awesome!  8)  I would only suggest though, that you listen to all the NMA stuff you've stashed away, in chronological order, before you set off to hear the latest NMA offering, 'From Here'.  Otherwise you might end up missing something; some nuance, some detail, some lyrical link, musical connection,  or even something else - if you jumble up the order of LPs.  Well, I certainly would miss a lot, if I was going to risk an attempt to listen to unheard material in some kind of random, messed up order.  :-\  But that could just be me, though.
Title: Re: I'm ALL for official NMA teasers, reading lyrics (B4 the music), & live versions
Post by: Whirlwind on June 15, 2019, 05:51:53 PM
... You won't be adding it to your stash of unheard NMA material?
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I have stashed away, never listened to/watched:

- the documentary film
- "Between Wine And Blood"
- "Between Wine And Blood Live"
- "Winter"

The new release "From Here" I will give a listen to as soon as it arrives. I will miss nothing by running it out of sequential order. I am not on a hunt for any connections to previous works, that doesn't matter to me. I listen to the music...I don't listen for secret clues. You've been watching "The Da Vinci Code" a bit too much. There is nothing hidden in the Mona Lisa. There is nothing hidden in a New Model Army song.

Also, your theory that singles were released before the album doesn't hold up. Brits released singles and they never were part of an album. Go find "Hey Jude" or ""Paperback Writer" on an album. Didn't happen.

8, you have got to change your name to 2 or something lower. You are giving yourself far too much credit by trying to make us think your IQ is 8.
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: lotus on June 15, 2019, 10:00:48 PM
And Whirlwind, you are out and off to the space on the list of a social score because of your IQ is x,xxx³ ?
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Pol on June 15, 2019, 10:09:01 PM
Didn't the no rest single come out before the album. Maybe I'm wrong tho . Winter single before album
Title: One tough nut to crack...
Post by: 8 on June 16, 2019, 10:48:21 AM
I have stashed away, never listened to/watched:

- the documentary film
- "Between Wine And Blood"
- "Between Wine And Blood Live"
- "Winter"

The new release "From Here" I will give a listen to as soon as it arrives.  I will miss nothing by running it out of sequential order.  I am not on a hunt for any connections to previous works, that doesn't matter to me.  I listen to the music...

We're likely all gonna get nuked before you ever get to listen to those NMA recordings, etc., Spacewind.   I don't understand it, honestly.  What is it about those specific NMA recordings that you're putting off listening to them etc.?  I'm curious, because it makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.  And to not go in chronological order, is just as mind boggling.  :(  To each, his own...


I don't listen for secret clues.  You've been watching "The Da Vinci Code" a bit too much.

Nearly pissed myself laughing!  :D  For the record, that was such a tame and mediocre film.  Only ever watched the thing once.  Was the book the same?   ???


There is nothing hidden in the Mona Lisa.

Hmmm... you know nothing about the man, if you believe that.  Nothing.  ;)

On a side note... did you know my favourite bearded guy, ever, carried around La Gioconda for 16 whole years?  From city to city, country to country, she was with him the entire time.  Just like most of us carry pics of our loved ones in our wallets or on our phones these days, he lugged around that portrait of her, right up until his death!  Just who she was to him, really, no body knows for certain.  Was she his muse, his lover?  Or, was he just really so unhappy with how the painting was evolving, that he felt the need to keep trying to fix / alter it?  We'll never know.  But I shall ask him one day, if and when I ever get to where he's at.  But for the time being, I am sentenced to LIFE.  So, I got to stick it out 'til my maker says I'm done... 'cause he didn't want me anywhere near  :-\  the 6 times I tried to leave.


There is nothing hidden in a New Model Army song.

Ahhh, but their is... not in every single one of them, but some of them for sure.   ;)


Also, your theory that singles were released before the album doesn't hold up.  Brits released singles and they never were part of an album.  Go find "Hey Jude" or ""Paperback Writer" on an album.  Didn't happen.

Yeah man, that was before my time, sorry.  I'm sure you're right, but I was talking about the way things seemed to be done, for the most part, back in the 1980s.


8, you have got to change your name to 2 or something lower.  You are giving yourself far too much credit by trying to make us think your IQ is 8.

again, nearly pissed myself laughing my ass off... ;D

Spacedud, what ever gave you the idea I was anywhere near intelligent?  If I was, I wouldn't be in the rut I am, living the life I'm living, working the job I'm working, etc., etc., etc., and I might've actually finished college, gone to a trades school, and / or perhaps even attended and graduated from some university.  So, I can reassure you, I am not smart, intelligent, brainy.  ::)

As for my moniker... I would've actually went with the numerical 0, but folk might've mistook it for the letter O.  The two, 0 and O, look too similar.  I even contemplated  the number 1 but it looked too close to I... so I eventually went with the number 8, instead.  I knew I wanted a number, not a name.  I love it when there's a bunch of us all signed in, online, and the 8 moniker gets lost.  Fcukin' LOVE that!!   :D   It's like one really has to be looking for it to even see it, find it.  Sweet.  I'd like to keep it that way.
Title: Re: One tough nut to crack...
Post by: Whirlwind on June 16, 2019, 05:09:31 PM
   I don't understand it, honestly.  What is it about those specific NMA recordings that you're putting off listening to them etc.?  I'm curious, because it makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.  And to not go in chronological order, is just as mind boggling.  :(  To each, his own...

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I have explained this before. All understand and agree with what I am doing. All feel it is a brilliant strategy.

Why those specific recordings have I set aside? I just never listened to them when they arrived. Busy or something. And as days turned into weeks, weeks turned into months, I figured why bother listening now? I'll just save them for when the band leaves us. Then I will have new NMA material to listen to. Unheard stuff. When the band leaves us you will have no unheard material. No unheard entire albums. I will have exciting "new" songs to listen to. I will be happy. You will be sad.

Regarding chronological order: How much music can we really listen to chronologically? The Beatles were releasing records before I was born. How exactly could I have listened to their first record, then their second, etc... in order? I suppose the first Beatle song I ever heard was "Hey Jude" - a song from the tail end of their career. With NMA I was lucky enough to have caught on to them by their second album. My listening order for them has been chronological. But how many bands can we really do that for?
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: pjevac on June 17, 2019, 10:51:32 AM
I liked the last one very much, still listen to it a lot... Wouldn't know what to expect and will not be bothered with it until it's there, I just hope there's again enough of great songs to put on it. Just keep on keeping on...
Title: Making a little more sense...
Post by: 8 on June 19, 2019, 01:59:09 AM
I have explained this before.  All understand and agree with what I am doing.  All feel it is a brilliant strategy.

Thanks for the laugh, man... I actually needed one today.  :)


Why those specific recordings have I set aside?  I just never listened to them when they arrived.  Busy or something.  And as days turned into weeks, weeks turned into months, I figured why bother listening now?  I'll just save them for when the band leaves us.  Then I will have new NMA material to listen to.  Unheard stuff.

Ahhh, that's making a bit more sense to me now.  :)


When the band leaves us you will have no unheard material.  No unheard entire albums.  I will have exciting "new" songs to listen to.  I will be happy.  You will be sad.

Ohhh, not only will I be sad (what an incredible, terrible understatement), but I'll be absolutely gutted, turn hopeless and dead inside.  I'll cry forevermore, and I am being completely serious here.  Most especially, if I happen to stumble across something in some live recording, someday, somewhere (either video or audio), that will trigger a perpetual, acute emotional flood of Niagara Falls-proportioned sum of tears.  It will fcukin' kill me.  The love runs SO deep... maybe even too deep, on my end.  So much so that it could end up scarring me for eternity.  That's one of my biggest fears... nevermind shit like knives, guns, snakes and spiders, LOVE scares the daylight(s) / shit out of me.  LOVE.  The only thing that has ever done so.  :'(

But as for not having anything 'new' to hear, that's not true.  I'll have ('GOD' willing) countless live NMA/JS recordings to take in.  There are so many, many out there, that I'll likely never be able to catch up.  And I'm positive others will surface as time moves forward, as other NMA/JS devotees share their experiences, recollections, pieces, stories, immense love.

'All the thoughts unuttered,
All the feelings unexpressed,
Play upon our hearts,
Like the mist upon our breath.'


xx
~ :-[:'( ~
OoooooO

Regarding chronological order: How much music can we really listen to chronologically?  The Beatles were releasing records before I was born.  How exactly could I have listened to their first record, then their second, etc... in order?  I suppose the first Beatle song I ever heard was "Hey Jude" - a song from the tail end of their career.  With NMA I was lucky enough to have caught on to them by their second album.  My listening order for them has been chronological.  But how many bands can we really do that for?

You're right, we can't really listen in chronological order, the repertoires of bands / artists that came before we arrived, but we certainly can, for the ones who began and took off while we were here.  :)

Nice chat.  Have a good one.  :)
Title: Re: Making a little more sense...
Post by: Whirlwind on June 19, 2019, 01:54:36 PM
1. But as for not having anything 'new' to hear, that's not true.  I'll have ('GOD' willing) countless live NMA/JS recordings to take in.

2. Ohhh, not only will I be sad (what an incredible, terrible understatement), but I'll be absolutely gutted, turn hopeless and dead inside. 
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1. No, listening to unheard live tracks is not "new" music. And it certainly is not the same as me listening to an entire complete album of unheard songs. Justin didn't sit with producers and mixers and band members getting those live tracks just right for public release. Live boots are not exactly what the artist wants out there. My listening to "Winter" on the other hand is listening to a collection of songs the way Justin and band wanted the buyer to experience them. I will have new real New Model Army material to listen to even when the band is done.

2. Gutted? I've been there...and been there to the thousandth power. The passing of Prince was a real bad moment for fans like myself. Unlike NMA, Prince released an album every single year. It was a part of my life...Christmas, Super Bowl, Prince album. Some were brilliant, some were so-so, but the point is the guy released 42 albums over forty years and all Prince fans loved and looked forward to that new unheard music of his that we were about to own and play. The joy, the anticipation, the fun, the excitement -- new Prince album! For forty years, every year, that went on for Prince fans. Forty years! And now it's over. GUTTED!

And there is a connection here between Prince and NMA. You say you will be listening to unheard live tracks, maybe a release of unreleased NMA songs when the band calls it a day. Believe me, that ain't going to cut it. Already the Prince estate has been releasing music from his vault. It ain't the same by a million miles as music that Prince himself released. An album from Prince was an album worked on by Prince. What we are getting now is bean counting record executives pushing Prince product to make money off his dead bones. It sucks when I see a new Prince release come from the record companies. Those songs weren't released BECAUSE PRINCE DIDN'T WANT THEM RELEASED! You might feel that same anger when a "new" NMA army release comes out after the band is done.
Title: Killing me softly...
Post by: 8 on June 20, 2019, 03:00:11 AM
I will have new real New Model Army material to listen to even when the band is done.

You will, for a short while anyway.  :-\  Have to ask, though... how are you getting around not hearing the songs that are off those specific releases, right now?  I mean, have you refrained from going to NMA/JS gigs for fear of hearing the unheard songs / material?  Are you keeping away from clips and live boots, also?  I'm asking because those songs are just everywhere now, that it's hard to not to come across them, hear them,  :-\  even if accidentally.


2.  Gutted?  I've been there... and been there to the thousandth power.  The passing of Prince was a real bad moment for fans like myself.  Unlike NMA, Prince released an album every single year.  It was a part of my life... Christmas, Super Bowl, Prince album.  Some were brilliant, some were so-so, but the point is the guy released 42 albums over forty years and all Prince fans loved and looked forward to that new unheard music of his that we were about to own and play.  The joy, the anticipation, the fun, the excitement -- new Prince album!  For forty years, every year, that went on for Prince fans.  Forty years!  And now it's over.  GUTTED

Wow!  I didn't realise Prince made 42 albums in 40 years, was such a prolific songwriter / artist.  That's fcukin' impressive, I must say.  The guy moved up here, for a few years anyway.  Wonder which albums he wrote while he was up here, in Canada... if he did write anything up here, anyway.  Can you clue me in, you might know more about Prince's move to Canada.  Think he lived here for 2 years or something?  Toronto, if I'm not mistaken.  Dated some Canadian too, I believe.  ???


You say you will be listening to unheard live tracks, maybe a release of unreleased NMA songs when the band calls it a day.  Believe me, that ain't going to cut it.  Already the Prince estate has been releasing music from his vault.  It ain't the same by a million miles as music that Prince himself released.  An album from Prince was an album worked on by Prince.  What we are getting now is bean counting record executives pushing Prince product to make money off his dead bones.  It sucks when I see a new Prince release come from the record companies.  Those songs weren't released BECAUSE PRINCE DIDN'T WANT THEM RELEASED!  You might feel that same anger when a "new" NMA army release comes out after the band is done.

This is yet another way in which we two differ.  I am going to equally treasure and love whatever NMA/JS material is released after the fact, whether it is what they intended to release at some point or not.

I am a MAJOR Jeff Buckley die hard fan.  When that guy passed, my perception of the world instantly changed, suddenly seemed different... crueler, colder, helpless, hopeless, negative, darker, angrier, more lost, etc.  Jeff only made that one album, "Grace".  Personally, I was brought to bittersweet tears, when his record label decided to release the expanded version of "Grace", "Sketches for My Sweetheart the Drunk", "Mystery White Boy: Live '95-'96",  "Live at Sin-é", and the "Live in Chicago" dvd.  Even though a lot of the material was unfinished and still quite raw indeed, it was still very much Jeff - Jeff's voice, Jeff's writing, Jeff's guitar playing, Jeff's essence, etc.  It made me SO incredibly thankful, happy, relieved, to get to hear his voice, his playing, feel his spirit, again.  Why on earth would something that sacred and untouched make me angry?  No way in hell could it, would it, did it - ever!  It made me feel as though young Buckley was coming through the heaven's, somehow, in some sacred way, back to us - even if only for a short while, via the music itself.   :'(

So for me, it'll be the very same, if not even more personal, potent, profound, when NMA/JS' unreleased material comes to light, after the fact.  I'll weep like a little girl, I know I will, just to hear his voice again.  'GOD', I love his voice.  It was the very first thing that drew me in, all those years ago and remains the one thing I cannot fathom / imagine living without.  Even when the man's yelling into his mic, it calms me down.  And when he's so hushed and soft spoken, makes me completely well-up inside.  Why on earth would I be angry to hear HYMmmn again, why?  Just because he might not have wanted some material publicly released?  Because it might've not been up to his or the band's standard's yet?  I wouldn't care!  The technicalities of the potential release(s) wouldn't matter to me!   And, as far as I'm am concerned shouldn't to other NMA/JS devotees as well.  NMA/JS' music is about far more than technicalities / skill, goes SO incredibly far, passed that.  Well, to me anyhow.   :-[:'(

I have this deep-seated, intense feeling that they'll more likely be JS songs that will be held back, not released to the public.  Solo material contenders.  All I can do is hope that his partner, wife, kids, blood family, or whoever they may end up being by then - running his estate, etc. - will be so kind and generous as to release - into the world - whatever he might've been holding onto, musically speaking.   :-[:'(

Yeah... I can't bring myself to think about all this kind of stuff right now.  Seriously.  The knots in my throat are beginning to form, my fcukin' eyes are starting to pool-up with salty tears.  I don't want to cry like this yet.  I don't.  It isn't time yet.  It's not time yet.  Could we please stop talking about when they are no more?  That day will come, it'll come for all of us, but why live the sorrow, anguish, loss, pain, absence, etc. now?  NMA/JS are still here.  I want to savour this sacred moment, these precious moments, while we're all still alive and kicking.  I will have the rest of my life to weep.  And, weep forevermore, I shall.   :-[:'(  x
Title: Re: Killing me softly...
Post by: Whirlwind on June 20, 2019, 02:51:36 PM

The guy moved up here, for a few years anyway.  Wonder which albums he wrote while he was up here, in Canada... if he did write anything up here, anyway.  Can you clue me in, you might know more about Prince's move to Canada.  Think he lived here for 2 years or something?  Toronto, if I'm not mistaken.  Dated some Canadian too, I believe.  ???

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Yeah, Prince married a girl from Toronto and lived up there in the early 2000s. He did record an album up there: "Musicology." Though it charted high and sold well, it is a weak Prince effort. Inside the album is a picture of Prince in front of a city skyline. It's supposedly Toronto.

(http://i.cbc.ca/1.3079026.1461261240!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_620/the-back-cover-of-prince-s-album-musicology.jpg)
Title: Re: new album your hopes
Post by: Master Ray on June 20, 2019, 08:08:16 PM

Well, The Dreaded Facebook did seem to indicate that something pretty big is going to be 'dropped' tomorrow....  ???
Title: new NMA album, your hopes...???
Post by: 8 on March 04, 2022, 10:22:57 AM
Bump!

Hello everyone,

It's been a while, but today I had this serious urge to post.  I pray you're all doing okay or even better than that, I hope.

I heard it mentioned elsewhere online  (by Mr. Sullivan, in an interview)  that the band have already begun writing / creating new material for their next release.  That was quite some time ago though, before all hell broke loose in Eastern Europe.  If we all manage to make it through somehow, to see a new NMA release come to light, fruition, it'd be really interesting to discover what subject matter, sonic and emotional tones they delve into / explore, on their next record.

On a more personal note... I just want to say, please stay safe everyone.  I'm no longer just talking about the pandemic when I'm wishing that, now.

To those of you that will be fortunate enough to attend any of the NMA/JS scheduled dates this year, please, please, please, remember there will be a few of us floating here waiting to hear all about those special shows.  Whatever you wish to share about whatever gigs you attend, I'd more than love to hear all about them... setlists, clips, photos, highlights, interviews, personal reviews, etc. just anything and everything!  I live for the little things, they're quite often the best things.

Take care of yourselves, your loved ones and each other.
Title: A request for new songs that begin with the letters J, X & Z...
Post by: 8 on April 04, 2022, 08:23:06 AM
Having recently listened to the whole A-Z of songs on my ipod
it appears that the only letters missing an NMA song are: J, X & Z.

So maybe the next album can somehow get a track(s) to cover these letters,
after all there can't be many bands that have a song title from every letter of the alphabet. ;D

p.s.  Still need a song called "Spring" to complete the Four Seasons ep. :D

Fascinating!!  I hadn't noticed this interesting detail before! :D
There are many great words (and names) beginning with the letter J. 8)
Hmmm, the letters X & Z... on the other hand, appear to pose more of a challenge. ???
lol, I like the way you think Anna! 8)  NMA are working on a new album, will find out soon-ish. :D
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