So... METAL... your opinions?

[Bunny]

Ha mate I tried that too. It was actually the Zulu war songs they had as an intro and outro to the album. Bloody annoying. Been trying to find them again for ours. Im sure they came out roughly the time Paradise Lost did but *shrugs shoulders

[Isaac(Black Eagle Rising)]

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The number one band on this list is a band called Death.  I have never heard anything by them.  But I don't want to be scrabbling around on Youtube for rare or insignificant stuff, I want to go right in with their best stuff, like a newbie checking out Metallica and going straight to 'Master Of Puppets!

Any Death fans out there?

Me, here...

They were one among the first of 5 or so bands that were molding thrash style to death metal. If not predecessors, but very original and they inspired tens to hundreds of new bands who started during late 80's and early 90's with the first and/or second wave of classic death metal.

But Death showed also increasing interest in a then less liked style of progressive death metal and they went fairly psychedelic quite soon. Others who also joined the style were Pestilence and Suffocation, for some to mention. (But I think the prog death thing is actually great after all.) It tells a lot about how Death changed if you think their guitarist Paul Masvidal formed also a band called Cynic which is progressive as hell and use vocoders with vocals, have synthesizers and complicated riffs, timing etc. (Recommended to check out.)

As BER said, it's so pity and sad what happened to Chuck Schuldiner. There was a benefit tour to fund for expensive and difficult surgery to fight the cancer that Schuldiner (and Chuck Billy from Testament) had. Chuck Billy survived the operation though.

My fave album from Death is their first the Scream Bloody Gore, second album Leprosy, and probably the Exorcist's instrumental version (a Possessed cover) that was rather more their progressive era  from the album Individual Thought Patterns : https://youtu.be/FxDT3pRzou4


(Photo from wikipedia: Chuck Schuldiner at right, Paul Masvidal left upper row. )

great post Rusco! One thing I'd like to ask to you is whenever I fly to Helsinki (not very often) I see some folks wearing metal band's t-shirts all the time.Seems like a big metal scene in your country which is great I think.

[Rusco]

great post Rusco! One thing I'd like to ask to you is whenever I fly to Helsinki (not very often) I see some folks wearing metal band's t-shirts all the time.Seems like a big metal scene in your country which is great I think.

Yea, it's still quite widely appreciated here. There are some scenes that get ahead, like power metal and black metal, but there have always been plenty of bands that are plain death and progressive bands. Some may have distinct features such as the Oulu city connection that have a hint of northern themes and sound and then there are bands that share a mythological base of Karelian tradition (which is an epic from 1900th century, a collection of oral poetry and tongue). There are also some festivals that are huge, Tuska and Sauna Open Air for example.

I like some of the long gone Finnish bands but not all the stuff. I've no interest in black metal. Although my background was in metal during the 80's when I was a kid, and early 90's, I moved into punk and hardcore.

However, I see many of the southern european and/or  Mediterranean Sea countries bearing a similar trend. Lots of festivals, band t-shirts, die hard fans, and rock and metal clubs etc?

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Edit: thank you for your nice words 

[Isaac(Black Eagle Rising)]

great post Rusco! One thing I'd like to ask to you is whenever I fly to Helsinki (not very often) I see some folks wearing metal band's t-shirts all the time.Seems like a big metal scene in your country which is great I think.

Yea, it's still quite widely appreciated here. There are some scenes that get ahead, like power metal and black metal, but there have always been plenty of bands that are plain death and progressive bands. Some may have distinct features such as the Oulu city connection that have a hint of northern themes and sound and then there are bands that share a mythological base of Karelian tradition (which is an epic from 1900th century, a collection of oral poetry and tongue). There are also some festivals that are huge, Tuska and Sauna Open Air for example.

I like some of the long gone Finnish bands but not all the stuff. I've no interest in black metal. Although my background was in metal during the 80's when I was a kid, and early 90's, I moved into punk and hardcore.

However, I see many of the southern european and/or  Mediterranean Sea countries bearing a similar trend. Lots of festivals, band t-shirts, die hard fans, and rock and metal clubs etc?

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Edit: thank you for your nice words 
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Oh yeah I had the same way too jump into punk/hardcore.Yes die hard metal scene here but Im not following anymore.So I have no idea about present time.

[Master Ray]

A friend of mine introduced me to Ghost.  Really liking them and investigating their past stuff.  Here's 'Square Hammer'.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqoyKzgkqR4

 

[Anna Woman von NRW]

A question on something I'm confused about: What defines a metal band?  when does something become metal as opposed to hard rock say 

[Bunny]

A question on something I'm confused about: What defines a metal band?  when does something become metal as opposed to hard rock say 

An example of hard rock would be say AC/DC. More blues/ rock n roll origin. Metal would be more Sabbath and Maiden, classically based.
As a metalhead, there are a stupid amount of genres within heavier music.

[Pol]

Without having a clue lol . I would guess it's certain chord signatures n guitar pedal sounds . I guess it how they get pigeon holed as well.  Why are bands like kyuss classed as stoner rock when they use a lot of Sabbath rifts n not stoner metal tho

[Master Ray]

Too many genres on the metal scene... it does get a bit confusing.  Most people would regard Motorhead as a metal band whereas Lemmy refuted that, saying they were a rock and roll band...

There is no clear answer to that question.  There are a ton of bands covered in Kerrang! (a supposed metal magazine) that I wouldn't regard as metal.  But that's just my opinion.  It's an ever evolving scene and one that refuses to die, no matter how many people say that 'rock is dead' (or, indeed, metal).  The Prodigy get a lot of coverage on metal forums... now, much as I love them, I wouldn't regard them as a metal band in a million years!  Likewise, stuff like Good Charlotte or Blink 182...

It's all confusing, I just go with what I like and what I don't...