New Song

[Gaijin]

I've just heard the new song that was performed at Southend on July 4th. 

No name has yet been mentioned for it. I think it fits well with the overall sound of BDAW and I'm pleased about that.

It's the first time I've managed to hear a new song so soon after it's first outing. Being so far away really sucks when the other members here post about how great the recent shows were etc.

For those who are perhaps interested in such things the show is up on Dime now.

[Jibberish]

Thanks, perhaps some more info on what Dime is and how to find it for the vast majority who probably won't know, would help. 

[Gaijin]

Perhaps a few carefully selected keywords in a search engine will help point the way.

I'm sure the band members would take exception to having directions such as you suggest splashed all over their official forum. 

I'm sorry if you though it was implied.

[Amandistan]

There is a new song? I am now waiting in anticipation until I here it. Can anyone sort of describe what it sounds like or what other NMA song it is closest to?

[Jibberish]

There is a new song? I am now waiting in anticipation until I here it. Can anyone sort of describe what it sounds like or what other NMA song it is closest to?

This is how I described it on Facebook:

"The new song sounds like a heavier version of 7 Times, I reckon. Very much in the BDAW style, once Joe Barresi's mix is applied I think it'll probably sound even more BDAW."

[Jibberish]

Perhaps a few carefully selected keywords in a search engine will help point the way.

I'm sure the band members would take exception to having directions such as you suggest splashed all over their official forum. 

I'm sorry if you though it was implied.

I knew where you meant straight away. I reckon the band is probably so used to their stuff being shared straight away by now that they accept it comes with the territory of being a contemporary rock and roll outfit. 

[Gaijin]

They are no doubt aware of it, but 'accept' is perhaps strong. 

Taking a guess here, but the song's title could be either 'Waving at the Devil' or 'More Empty than the Sky'.

[MARKXE]

The problem with any new material is that everybody wants to hear it, and once played live, given the modern world we live in it will be filmed, recorded and more often than not be circulating before the band are up and having breakfast the next morning, on Youtube etc etc.

BDAW had tracks played live long before it was out as an album and they were all over the usual sites.
I'm still amazed that BDAW was not leaked weeks before its offical release date.

I suppose there are two trains of thought,
 
The people who see music as something that they expect for free. I know lots of people who buy nothing and possess only downloaded stuff and so does everybody on this site. (Why should I pay when its readily available at the click of a mouse mentality)
Most have no interest in the Artists/Band they just like a particular song or album and there is no connection, no soul, no real feeling to go along with that so they see no harm in it.

Then there are the people who like myself  buy everything on CD and if available Vinyl, maybe I do download the odd Live gig now and again, I would be a total hypocrite to say I didn't and I would be amazed if there were any Bands/ Artists themselves that have no downloaded music. 

There is a link to the new song which sounds pretty good given the recording and I did post it then remove it earlier this morning, on another thread.
However having spent the day mulling it over why not post it, everybody on here would like to hear a new song.
This was what I posted. Its a link to the German forum just have a look and you will find it.

http://www.newmodelarmy.de/forum/index.php?board=1.0

Sits back and awaits comments.

[Bunny]

Not sure about that dude,

I'm ambivalent about the whole download issue - to me it's not much different to taping off the radio years ago - it's up to the individual.

But to me with my daft old fashioned manners it just seems a bit rude to put it up here on this place when the band haven't even said it's name. We can all go and look for stuff and if a there was a youtube of the song from Southend of course I'd watch. It just seems a bit of a cheek to flaunt it here - a bit like a mugger waving your purse in your face. Then again maybe it's good for creating a buzz in the lead up to a new release and is worth the modern equivalent of inch of column space in Sounds back in the day.

Those of us who come to this board and waffle on will buy as much as they can and will see the guys live whenever they can the real question is: does this ultimately reduce the number of paid for downloads/cd's whatever? If it does then the truth is it's theft from a Workers wage packet because it's not just the band who lose out it will be everyone who earns a living in some way from this wonderful music. If on the other hand, this is thought to increase the eventual number of paid for copies then it's an excellent fan-driven promotional tool.

Dunno, I guess it comes down to: Are you going to buy the release anyway? In which case it's just our O.C.D  or Are you gonna nick this download and not bother buying the real deal? In which case you are a Thief  .

Not judging just saying my words.

 

Ive always thought of illegal downloads as like taping off the radio. Everyone did it and it was just accepted. The difference for me was that while Id do it, it was always the pre-cursor to whether Id buy the album. And having said that, Ive lost count of the £15 Ive spent and lost on albums that were actually crap. Perhaps I should have sued the music industry lol.
I dunno. I have mixed thoughts. I wouldnt want any artist to lose money but then I dont want to waste mine either. I dont download music. I will listen to songs and decide whether Ill buy an album.

In any case, I read somewhere that touring makes the most money. But Im old and could be wrong.

[Gaijin]

Taping off the radio was illegal remember, however one couldn't make an exact digital copy then. 

That 'sits back and awaits comments' line is in bad taste. I know the personality type that does things like that. Who are you to post that hyperlink? One of the entitled, no doubt. Everyone else that commented on this thread was respectful to the band and showed restraint.

But that's just my opinion, and we already know yours now. You didn't even comment on the song.

[Bunny]

Course it was illegal. Did I understand that, or my friends at 12 or 13? Hell no. It just happened. Not saying in the digital age that its the same thing but Id put money on it their are kids doing it that dont understand the implications either.
Im not comfortable with Markxe posting the link BUT someone recently posted a link to the Norwich gig I went to and no-one batted an eyelid. Is it any different to a bootleg? It works two ways. Any genuine fan that hears the song wil buy the album. In a way its advertising. I dont beleive anyone in the music industry is naive enough not to realise that people will record songs/vids at shows and spread them.

[Bunny]

And in fairness to Markxe, Gaijin, you started this thread and suggested the song was out there to find as well. Not having a pop at anyone but its pretty much the same thing.

[Johnz]

Hmm, some harsh opinions here but debate is good.

I have been a NMA fan for 30 years and like many here own (and have paid for) all their releases. If it hadn't been for a copy of Vengeance that I illegally taped off a mate's vinyl back in 1984 I may have never gotten into the band.

I don't see the difference between posting a link to a new song or an old one. If you think that downloading one is theft then so is the other.

Regardless of your opinion, the band accept the fact that new songs get shared here or else they would state otherwise. Whether they like it or not is another matter. I remember JS saying somewhere that it does mean that they play fewer songs live before they are released.

I personally don't see the problem. If you play a new song live you are 'releasing' it to the public and sharing it here is merely an extension of that. It is the new reality and it can work in the band's favour, too. A couple of strong tunes circulated before release are likely to boost sales rather than reduce them. I see a difference between that and donloading an album off a file sharing site.

Anyway, just my opinion. And just for the record, I tried to download the song but my computer tells me that it doesn't have the necessary software to play it. So there 

[Bunny]

May the curse of a thousand boils strike you down 

[Johnz]

May the curse of a thousand boils strike you down