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Re: Favourite NMA song for JS lyrics ?
« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2015, 09:21:10 PM »
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Re: Favourite NMA song for JS lyrics ?
« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2015, 09:27:58 PM »
Guess you have a good point Amanda. Technically you should blame the British and not just the English
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Re: Favourite NMA song for JS lyrics ?
« Reply #47 on: May 09, 2015, 09:39:52 PM »
do you think they are driving past the American military bases in the uk thinking oh look at all these lovely shiny weapons of mass destruction here in our country.


Uhh, yeah. It's called protection. I don't know if you were around in the '80s, but there was something called Russia and a Cold War. Those military bases were lifesavers for all the UK and Europe.

I don't know what's going on here. Maybe you lot are all "taking the piss." How can you hear "51st State" and not think it is a tribute to America? Just listen to the way Justin sings "Yeah, we're the..." That's joy. Maybe I have a demo version or soemthing on my "Ghost Of Cain" album, but that song is a proud declaration of our (US/UK) alliance. Remember WWII? You think the Brits were singing songs about hating USA? Well, you think during the Cold War Brits were really hating us?

NMA were always great because they didn't give you the standard obvious stuff. "I believe in getting the bastard" sure is a lot different than "all you need is love" and all that other hippy/lefty stuff. "51st Stae" is great because it didn't do the obvious we-hate-America stuff. But somehow people here think it is the obvious we-hate-America stuff. You all know NMA pretty well. Don't you think Justin and NMA are a lot better than just regurgitating the obvious?

Sorry, folks, some here sure haven't been listening to "51st State" very well.

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Re: Favourite NMA song for JS lyrics ?
« Reply #48 on: May 09, 2015, 10:11:08 PM »
Wow, so that was the straw that broke the camel's back then...

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Re: Favourite NMA song for JS lyrics ?
« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2015, 10:18:06 PM »
Not a reply, but as the person who started this topic, I would like to remind all of the title --

Favourite NMA song for JS lyrics ?

( Space,  he didn't write the lyrics to 51st State  ::) )

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Re: Favourite NMA song for JS lyrics ?
« Reply #50 on: May 09, 2015, 10:36:19 PM »
Don't know if I'm meant to reply but here goes.

Firstly I'm not saying that the uk or nma hated the usa. I'm definitely saying that what Maggie Thatcher and Ronnie Regan were doing to the country back then was despised by many people at the time. Yes i was very much around in the 80s and remember the cold war. Many people including myself didn't want any nuclear weapons in our country. CND had a massive support at the time. This as we all should know was the the political background when the song was written.
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Re: Favourite NMA song for JS lyrics ?
« Reply #51 on: May 09, 2015, 10:41:24 PM »
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Re: Favourite NMA song for JS lyrics ?
« Reply #52 on: May 10, 2015, 03:06:08 PM »
Following up of my mention of Island.... It's not a song that many people claim as their fave but from the beginning it captures you. I love how JS begins the song very softly and then it gets faster. I don't know how to describe what he does with the lyrics but anyone who listens will know what I mean. He seems to start by painting a lyrical picture. Often beginning with nature or the whether and then it builds up from there.

I may also add Qasar el nil Bridge or however the spelling is. And Another imperial Day. I just love the message and the flow of the words.     

I wish we had a heart emoticon to display love for a song so this will have to do      <B

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Re: Favourite NMA song for JS lyrics ?
« Reply #53 on: May 10, 2015, 04:17:38 PM »
not exactly

England, Scotland and Wales make up Great Britain.

The United Kingdom is Great Britain  AND Northern Ireland, hence the official title of United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland.

The loyalists in Northern Ireland are not British, contrary to what they would have you believe.

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Re: Favourite NMA song for JS lyrics ?
« Reply #54 on: May 10, 2015, 05:29:09 PM »
I have just been to the Republic of Ireland and they consider Northern Ireland to be part of Ireland. They said it's really no difference to them. They just drive into Northern Ireland and they see it is just Ireland. I also hear that the borders are like they are because Donegal is very catholic and would never be part of a protestant area.  Of course this is coming from Irish people who consider the IRA no worse than the English army. The English Army seemed to have open fire on innocent people watching a football match for no reason. Then at a peace demonstration. 

I can not understand why their would be loyalist anywhere on the Island that is Ireland after what horrible things they have done. I may be biased though because I only heard the Irish side of the story.    and I have wandered far off topic into passionate rant again..... 

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Re: Favourite NMA song for JS lyrics ?
« Reply #55 on: May 10, 2015, 06:08:57 PM »
The English Army seemed to have open fire on innocent people watching a football match for no reason.

Are you sure about this ?

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Re: Favourite NMA song for JS lyrics ?
« Reply #56 on: May 10, 2015, 06:28:33 PM »
Is it possible that this is getting mixed up with 'Bloody Sunday'?

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Re: Favourite NMA song for JS lyrics ?
« Reply #57 on: May 10, 2015, 08:06:52 PM »
Ireland is a complex situation. Yes the British army certainly made mistakes does that equal the atrocities committed by the ira i certainly don't think so. I'm going to admit I'm biased in my brother done a tour of duty in northern Ireland in the last 70s / early 80s when the troubles were very high n yet i come from catholic background. I think your stay in Ireland may have given you a slightly biased opinion maybe you should look into the horrific acts committed by the ira as well
Just my opinion Amanda
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Re: Favourite NMA song for JS lyrics ?
« Reply #58 on: May 11, 2015, 10:20:31 AM »
With only a shred of irony I've changed from BOW to SPACE!
It was one of my favourites anyway.

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Re: Favourite NMA song for JS lyrics ?
« Reply #59 on: May 11, 2015, 12:04:36 PM »
Ireland is a complex situation. Yes the British army certainly made mistakes does that equal the atrocities committed by the ira i certainly don't think so. I'm going to admit I'm biased in my brother done a tour of duty in northern Ireland in the last 70s / early 80s when the troubles were very high n yet i come from catholic background. I think your stay in Ireland may have given you a slightly biased opinion maybe you should look into the horrific acts committed by the ira as well
Just my opinion Amanda

As a republican in belief, my own personal opinion is both sides did wrong.
The British soldiers killed, tortured and terrorised Irish people, not just catholics, as not all catholics were republican, many a protestant was, in fact some of the greatest republicans in Irish history were scottish and english protestants.

Many people believed the soldiers were legitimate targets and were an invading army, and they had zero right to be on our soil.
But it works both ways, the IRA killing british innocent people in their country was wrong and no decent person regardless or religion or nationality should make allowances for murder.

Thankfully the terrible episode seems over, all be it too late for so many families on both sides of the Irish sea.

As for song lyrics....fairly apt song is " Bury the Hatchet"