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Re: Cream of 90's indie genre
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2015, 07:36:08 PM »
My favourite from this genre was Ash. Apparently they have just released a new single. not heard it yet though.


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Re: Cream of 90's indie genre
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2015, 07:39:02 PM »
So, they ARE doing albums again...  ???

Whatever.  Good tune.
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Re: Cream of 90's indie genre
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2015, 08:07:29 PM »
Thanks Red, yep, that sounds like Ash alright  :)

M/Ray, if they do Rockers again soon, we'll have to talk  ;)

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Re: Cream of 90's indie genre
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2015, 08:42:07 PM »
Damn, I forgot the Ride, indeed. A friend of mine was really into them and I remember a festival I heard they played a really good gig long time ago. I was there too but somehow missed their gig a bit because of my typical activities (own fault) at fests.

And the Swervedriver(!), can you remember Darkness did they release an album called Mescalhead? I've heard some of their stuff and think they're really good.

Can anyone remember the Mega city Four? I found their maxi from some second hand record store couple of years ago and was very happy about it.
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Re: Cream of 90's indie genre
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2015, 08:56:43 PM »
I agree with you Amandistan about Mumford could they be pigeonholed as an indie band, or rather folk. I think they've lots of similar things as the mighty Pogues did. But maybe they share some characteristics in common with a new retro style of music that is also labelled sometimes as 'indie', or?  ???
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Re: Cream of 90's indie genre
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2015, 09:07:52 PM »
Damn, I forgot the Ride, indeed. A friend of mine was really into them and I remember a festival I heard they played a really good gig long time ago. I was there too but somehow missed their gig a bit because of my typical activities (own fault) at fests.

And the Swervedriver(!), can you remember Darkness did they release an album called Mescalhead? I've heard some of their stuff and think they're really good.

Can anyone remember the Mega city Four? I found their maxi from some second hand record store couple of years ago and was very happy about it.
Ride were great. I saw them one year at Reading. The early EPs were brilliant. And yes Mescalhead is an album by Swervedriver. I was a huge Mega City 4 fan, their first album Tranzophobia is one of my all time faves.
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Re: Cream of 90's indie genre
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2015, 06:15:08 PM »
My version of an indie band is
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Re: Cream of 90's indie genre
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2015, 06:25:33 PM »

I have to say i have a weak spot for  the American 90's indie scene.

It was responsible for the great Elliott Smith, Pavement, Sunny Day Real-estate, Modest Mouse, Neutral Milk Hotel, Magnetic fields.

I see what you mean. That's an interesting detail about history. I've heard an explanation that "indie" was seen as a British phenomenon, while grunge was an American equivalent to it. I'd think they both had something in common with and there were also exceptions; Dambuilders f.e. were from States and Hawaii. But they still had the soft pop sound in it as most of the bands labeled vaguely as indie. And how about the Lemonheads? Or PJ Harvey that sounded rather more like bands from the States?

Well, pigeonholing is always a bit silly thing to do, but I'd think there are some things we could somehow generalise. Grunge had that Mudhoney's and Dinosaur Jr:s distorted bass sound, while indie had rather soft pop and sometimes psychedelic elements. I don't know were there other more peculiar sub genre labels about indie in other (your) countries, but I've heard one: "dream-indie", which I think describes some bands quite well.  :)

Also, I think Shush said quite interesting thing there in the "Australian bands" topic about a history before the indie movement in late 80's in UK. The SAW, I mean... But how did it happen in States before the grunge? One thing I've heard was that the Melvins were seen as some kind of start, or early inspiration to some of the bands in start of 90's. If someone has any clue it would be nice to hear.
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Re: Cream of 90's indie genre
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2015, 06:39:54 PM »
My version of an indie band is
16 Horsepower
16 Horsepower
16 ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16_Horsepower

Searched for them in the YouTube. Good stuff man!
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Re: Cream of 90's indie genre
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2015, 09:55:56 PM »
But how did it happen in States before the grunge? One thing I've heard was that the Melvins were seen as some kind of start, or early inspiration to some of the bands in start of 90's. If someone has any clue it would be nice to hear.
There was no indie scene in America that led to the grunge explosion. Those bands may have indie-cred, but their influences were BIG stadium rock. All the indie bands were influenced by Led Zep and KISS and even Rush. They all say they learned their instruments by playing along to those records. Hendrix was an influence on all the grunge guitarists. All grunge really is is heavy rock with better lyrics.

Our indie scene was back in the early '80s. We had small labels in NY that gave us outstanding bands. For instance, 99 Records gave us the incredible Bronx dance grooves of ESG and the iconic bass rhythms of Liquid Liquid (you know who they are, the world famous bass line to Grandmaster Flash's "White Lines" was sampled off of a Liquid Liquid record.) Heb Tone records down in Georgia gave us REM. Chicago had WaxTrax that gave us a ton of indie bands, most noted being Ministry. Seattle did have SubPop that allowed the grunge bands to get their music out there, but as I said, those grunge bands were not primarily influenced by an indie scene. Their main influences were well established acts.

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Re: Cream of 90's indie genre
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2015, 11:35:13 AM »
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Re: Cream of 90's indie genre
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2015, 09:59:34 PM »
Do Catherine Wheel and Swervedriver fit this topic?  I love both, and I think both were bigger in the US than the UK.

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Re: Cream of 90's indie genre
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2015, 10:02:02 PM »
Do Catherine Wheel and Swervedriver fit this topic?  I love both, and I think both were bigger in the US than the UK.

At least I know Swervedriver, as mentioned above.  ;) They'll fit right there.
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Re: Cream of 90's indie genre
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2015, 10:44:53 PM »
Catherine Wheel were, indeed, excellent and I believe bigger in the US than the UK.  Ferment was the height of their trendiness in the UK, but Happy Days and Adam And Eve are much better albums... Chrome is also worth a listen...
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Re: Cream of 90's indie genre
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2015, 12:47:05 AM »
Catherine Wheel were, indeed, excellent and I believe bigger in the US than the UK.  Ferment was the height of their trendiness in the UK, but Happy Days and Adam And Eve are much better albums... Chrome is also worth a listen...
Ferment, Chrome and Adam and Eve are my favorites.  Happy Days is a bit to heavy metalish for me, but there are some great songs on it.  Wishville (their last one) gets knocked around a lot, but I think it's pretty great too.

Mezcal Head and Raise from Swervedriver is their big albums, but they put out four solid albums before calling it a day.  Adam Franklin went on to make some fines albums on his own, but seem more hippy trippy compared to SD.  They have been saying for 3 or 4 years that they are working on a comeback album.  We'll see.