Why won't America ever learn?

[Anna Woman von NRW]

Why won't America ever learn?

Because America doesn't seem to want to does it?

[Master Ray]

Well, that's another massacre...   

[Anna Woman von NRW]

Obama said it all really didn't he..................

[Master Ray]

Obama said it all really didn't he..................

Be even nicer if he actually did something about it.

[Amandistan]

Sadly he can't. I believe congress is conservative. They just veto everything.

[Master Ray]

I just do not understand the utter lunacy of the gun control debate.  It's proper Alice In Wonderland territory.

The NRA genuinely seem to believe that every meeting, whether it be a sit-down with friends, a trip to the cinema or an intelligent college debate should be conducted with everyone having a great big fuckin' GUN on their hip.  What is this, the Star Wars cantina, where we should all be worried in case Han or Greedo shoots first?  (OK, we all know that Han shoots first, but that's a geekier debate...)

It's all gone doo-lally when Piers bloody Morgan speaks some of the best sense on an issue...

[Pol]

The saddest part is it comes as no surprise that its happened again, were starting to become immune to it all. The gun lobby will hold on to every last till the bitter end. A complete change of culture is needed. Fck its impossible for me to get my head around it all, I just can't imagine walking in to a shop and be able to buy a killing machine capable of killing 100s of people in a minute or less.

[Rusco]

These news are so sad. I can't read or listen them at all nowadays.

[Amandistan]

It's complicated.  Okay, I am American so get the culture but don't care for it.

It's stupid. It goes back to 1776 when the constitution was written. They wrote the 2nd amendment as the "Right to Bear Arms."   but you did not have guns that could fire several rounds at once. It was there more or less so that the people can over throw a tyrant.

It's nearly impossible to change these amendments for some stupid reason.It was a fight to change it to allow women to vote.   Many Americans are also brain washed to believe that they need guns for protection. They can't escape from this mind set.

These are people who have never traveled and only know the American way of life. It's impossible to convince them that we need gun control badly. They scapegoat mental illness and say the mental health industry needs fixing.

Sadly it's hopeless.

[ldopas]

It's complicated.  Okay, I am American so get the culture but don't care for it.

It's stupid. It goes back to 1776 when the constitution was written. They wrote the 2nd amendment as the "Right to Bear Arms."   but you did not have guns that could fire several rounds at once. It was there more or less so that the people can over throw a tyrant.

It's nearly impossible to change these amendments for some stupid reason.It was a fight to change it to allow women to vote.   Many Americans are also brain washed to believe that they need guns for protection. They can't escape from this mind set.

These are people who have never traveled and only know the American way of life. It's impossible to convince them that we need gun control badly. They scapegoat mental illness and say the mental health industry needs fixing.

Sadly it's hopeless.

Completely agree, so why doesn't Obama do something about it apart from drone on about it in interviews?

[Master Ray]

Can't remember if I've posted this before, but Piers Morgan vs Alex Jones..?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XZvMwcluEg

As I've said before, don't like Mr Morgan much but Mr Jones..?  Evil f-ing nutter... this is 15 minutes of insanity.

[Anna Woman von NRW]

so why doesn't Obama do something about it apart from drone on about it in interviews?

Because as Amanda has already explained here:

Sadly he can't. I believe congress is conservative. They just veto everything.

He can't. Show me one politician in America who could push through gun control. The American people do not appear able to relinquish control of their right to bear arms. The most a politician can do is give a stark presentation of the facts and keep their fingers crossed.

Sad.

Yes MR - Alex Jones truly is something else no?

[Ron B]

It's complicated.  Okay, I am American so get the culture but don't care for it.

It's stupid. It goes back to 1776 when the constitution was written. They wrote the 2nd amendment as the "Right to Bear Arms."   but you did not have guns that could fire several rounds at once. It was there more or less so that the people can over throw a tyrant.

It's nearly impossible to change these amendments for some stupid reason.It was a fight to change it to allow women to vote.   Many Americans are also brain washed to believe that they need guns for protection. They can't escape from this mind set.

These are people who have never traveled and only know the American way of life. It's impossible to convince them that we need gun control badly. They scapegoat mental illness and say the mental health industry needs fixing.

Sadly it's hopeless.

 This and let me add also as an American People from other countries just don't seem to understand how big and how powerful the NRA Gun lobby is in this country. They give MILLIONS to Political Parties and canidates. Plus  you have to add  The Gun Manufactures themselves These companies some are as old as America itself and weather It is Remington, Colt, Winchester, Smith & Wesson ( They named Movies after these brands) they are what every solder or Cowboy or Police had . These are MAJOR MILITARY CONTRACTORS ( I put those letters in Capitals To drive home a point)

Eisenhower way back warned of the Military Industrial Complex well it is up and running very well here understand that and then you will understand what Obama  has to go thru besides being a Lame duck President so Congress which is now Majority Republican in both the house and Senate don't like him anyway and Never did are not going to do anything. One of That Party biggest contributors is the NRA. they are not going to bite the hand that feeds  them.    

[Amandistan]

It is not a safe country in my Opinion.  I am not even surprised anymore by news of the gun massacres. Saddened but it never shocks me. It's what? the 24th of the year?

it's nearly always white males. Not to sound racist or sexist but that just seems to be who commits most of these crimes .

[Rusco]

Once my friend met some American soldier at a cruiser ship here. (We have those big and heavy ferrys cruising at the sea you know. Huge capitalist boats.) Well, this soldier boy was shocked to hear no one have guns here and are not afraid at the streets (apart the hunters at the countryside). But he proudly stated how many guns he owns and how important they are. The gap with his reality he lives in and our local realm was huge.