The "Between Dog And Wolf" Phrase In A New Book

[Whirlwind]

Even with my 148 IQ I admit I had never heard the expression "between dog and wolf" until the New Model Army album.

Well, I am currently reading a new book by Paul French - a Brit - about Shanghai in the '30s and '40s. Shanghai then was a mixture of Atlantic City, New York's Times Square, and South Central Los Angeles -- probably the wildest, most dangerous, seediest place on Earth. Gangsters, gamblers, show people, drug addicts...that was essentially the entire population of Shanghai. Crazy book.

Well, one chapter in the book is entitled: "The Hour Between Dog And Wolf." Hmmm. Is that expression popular amongst Brits (the author is British) or could it have been purloined from New Model Army?

[Stephanie]

Hmmm. Is that expression popular amongst Brits (the author is British) or could it have been purloined from New Model Army?

If I remember correctly - and I believe I do - Justin said in an interview that he took the phrase from the French "entre chien et loup". In French, this term is indeed very common and describes the time at dusk where the twilight makes it hard to see things clearly, in this case to tell a dog from a wolf.

Whether Paul French is a big New Model Army fan or simply also familiar with this French expression...no idea.

[lotus]

I remember that interview, too
Paul French has nothing to do with the name of the album

Hmmm. Is that expression popular amongst Brits (the author is British) or could it have been purloined from New Model Army?

If I remember correctly - and I believe I do - Justin said in an interview that he took the phrase from the French "entre chien et loup". In French, this term is indeed very common and describes the time at dusk where the twilight makes it hard to see things clearly, in this case to tell a dog from a wolf.

Whether Paul French is a big New Model Army fan or simply also familiar with this French expression...no idea.