From America a warning

[Ron B]

Hello Family .It has been a very long time since I last posted here . A lot of things have happen in that time The passing of my father in  April 2018. My move from NY to Dallas in December 2018 and getting adjusted to a totally different environment here in Dallas Texas. I have been on the New Model Army Facebook site So I have been keeping up with the news about the New Album and I have listened to the 2 songs released by the band on Youtube .As usual outstanding by Justin and the lads. It is always difficult as in will now be almost a decade since they toured in the the US and those 2 shows in Brooklyn are some of the best memories of seeing the band and the family that came over from England and other European countries to see them.

This post is about something else thou and it should be a warning about right wing demagogues and the fact that I see Boris Johnson will be your next PM.

We have a major problem here in America with Donald Chump as President if you have heard his recent speeches and Twitter rants he is now going after people of color something I heard Boris likes to do. I urge you as citizens of Your country to protest this person and his hate speech.  Some say he is Donald Trump lite with a British accent.  Well if he is nothing good will come from him. He will try the divide and Conquer tactic Trump is using here. And if you heard the recent news another racist bigot armed with a semi automatic gun killed 3 people at a festival in California 2 days ago.The only way for us here in the states is to wait till election day and vote this clown and his enablers out .The house wants to start impeachment proceedings but the senate controlled by Republicans will never allow it so that won't happen . I don't know how your parliament works but watch what his followers say and do.they will be Boris Johnson mouth piece.  Do not fall for their tactics.  Good luck to all my family we will get thru the hate that is now out in the open in America and hopefully it will not fester in England.

[fiddlesticks]

Hi,
These things will pass...

FWIW, I don't think Boris Johnson is racist, although whether you like his politics is another matter...

[lostockboy]

I wouldn't say that I was a conservative in any way shape or form but comparing Boris Johnson to Donald Trump is a bit far fetched.  I doubt he'd get away with what Donald comes out with as the left would be all over him like a rash if he came out with anything inappropriate

[Whirlwind]

The only way for us here in the states is to wait till election day and vote this clown and his enablers out .

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And what exactly makes you think that will happen? Haven't you seen that Trump's numbers and support after these racist rants actually goes up?

[Ron B]

That poll you mentioned is with Republican voters that is not the whole country .If you look at polls amongst if the election was held today Every Democratic candidate beats Donald Trump.Polls Change and the Democrats have not picked their main challenger Yet. Although the front runner looks to be Joe Biden.

[Whirlwind]

That poll you mentioned is with Republican voters

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Forget about polls, my friend. Polls had Hillary winning the whole shebang.

Polls are good for a show of support or how many people might see a movie or what is one's favorite sports team; but when it comes to predicting elections, throw polls out the window. Polls now say Biden would trounce Trump and all Dem candidates beat Trump. You really want to bank on that? You really feel it is game over for Trump because polls say so?

[Ron B]

No but I know the mood of this country.Donald Trump did not win the popular vote he lost by over 3 milion votes matter of fact . He won by the electoral college.  Which meant he flipped 4 states that voted for Obama.  Wisconsin, Michigan,  Virginia,  Ohio.  You flipped those states back and there is no way he wins . Now we can debate the old electoral college system against one man one vote but that is how trump won and for the time being that is the system that will remain in place. Plus the fact that there were over 70 million that did not vote for either candidate. 

[Shush]

aside from the serious subject,, nice to see you back here Ron 

[jc]

Welcome back Ron, sorry that you’ve been through the mill lately but glad that you’re back out the other side.

I believe Boris is a different character from that of Chump, seems like we are both the laughing stock of the world but it is not funny.

Cheers

jc

[Whirlwind]

You flipped those states back and there is no way he wins .

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You are overlooking and leaving out one key factor in your prediction: incumbent.

It is extremely are for an incumbent to lose a Presidential election. Only happened five times. One has to be a real disaster (Carter) or be challenged by a dynamic, charismatic new candidate (Obama, Clinton) for an incumbent to lose. Trump, though he may be a disaster, is not perceived to be one by half the country, and there is no dynamic, charismatic new candidate running for President on the Democratic side.

Unless something really, really bad happens in the next year and a half, Trump the incumbent will win re-election.

[jc]

I watched this the other night:-
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9358204/

They reckon they got Chump and Brexit.

Cheers

jc

[Anna Woman von NRW]

Two devils from the same level of Dantes inferno if you ask me. And yes Johnson is just as bad as the orange dickhead - just presents himself in a much more " English" fashion.

Johnson and chums are hellbent on turning England into a financiers wet dream. Go check out Britannia Unchained.

Don't be fooled 

[Master Ray]

Look, I hate Trump and Johnson as much as anyone...

But can we address something else... what the **** do Labour think they're doing by having their Magic Grandad as the opposition?  He's just as big a buffoon as that twot Johnson? 

[Bunny]

Look, I hate Trump and Johnson as much as anyone...

But can we address something else... what the **** do Labour think they're doing by having their Magic Grandad as the opposition?  He's just as big a buffoon as that twot Johnson?

I simply cannot vote Labour while he runs the party. I dont want to live in a 1970's time machine. The party has been taken over by Momentum and it will be the death knell of it.

[Pol]

The welcome Boris got in Scotland pleased me