Author Topic: Exactly How Many Albums Does New Model Army Have?  (Read 1295 times)

Willard

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Re: Exactly How Many Albums Does New Model Army Have?
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2019, 02:30:39 PM »
So the band’s own site shows 16 studio albums, including BWAB, Lost Songs, and B Sides and Abandoned Tracks. I’m sold.

And yeah, From Here makes 17. My bad

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Re: Exactly How Many Albums Does New Model Army Have?
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2019, 02:36:05 PM »


And yeah, From Here makes 17. My bad
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I say you count the live albums.

There's a funny story. Are you aware that Pearl Jam recorded and released on separate CDs all their live shows one tour? Well, a few months later the band then released a new studio album. A reviewer (I think it was in Rolling Stone) reviewed the album by stating "the new Pearl Jam album is out. It is their 74th." I laughed.

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Re: Exactly How Many Albums Does New Model Army Have?
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2019, 02:55:33 PM »


And yeah, From Here makes 17. My bad
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I say you count the live albums.

There's a funny story. Are you aware that Pearl Jam recorded and released on separate CDs all their live shows one tour? Well, a few months later the band then released a new studio album. A reviewer (I think it was in Rolling Stone) reviewed the album by stating "the new Pearl Jam album is out. It is their 74th." I laughed.

See that’s funny

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Re: Exactly How Many Albums Does New Model Army Have?
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2019, 02:28:26 PM »
Vengeance was described as a mini-album on first release, as was the 1987 German/US mini-album titled New Model Army.

Do they count as albums? Do any of the anthologies or collections?

Does the Brazilian Adrenaline album count?

I don't count the ones described in record contracts as 'overcall' albums, because they're just releases of leftover material, live recordings and complications, put out by labels to fulfil contractual obligations after a band has left.

EMI released all sorts of material after the contract ended a little early, one studio album short of the five intended. The live album (was it Raw Melody Men?) was counted as a studio album by EMI to complete on the deal, but History, Lost Songs etc. were overcall.

I guess it depends on your terms of reference, be they creative, legal or otherwise.

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Re: Exactly How Many Albums Does New Model Army Have?
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2019, 10:50:30 AM »
I would say every recording from a studio, would be an album, even if sometimes it’s not that easy (all the first period added to vengeance later, the ep from 87 later added to T&C, BW&B but no best of), so :

Vengeance with all the independent recording makes one album
No rest
Ghost of Cain
Thunder (with the CD bonus tracks)
Impurity
Love of HC
B sides
Strange Brotherhood
Lost songs
Eight
Carnival
High
Today is a Good Day
Between dogs and wolf
Between wine and blood (even if I admit this one could be just an add-on to the previous one, a DLC you could say in today’s world  ;))
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Re: Exactly How Many Albums Does New Model Army Have?
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2019, 12:25:19 PM »
I would say every recording from a studio, would be an album, even if sometimes it’s not that easy (all the first period added to vengeance later, the ep from 87 later added to T&C, BW&B but no best of), so :

Vengeance with all the independent recording makes one album
No rest
Ghost of Cain
Thunder (with the CD bonus tracks)
Impurity
Love of HC
B sides
Strange Brotherhood
Lost songs
Eight
Carnival
High
Today is a Good Day
Between dogs and wolf
Between wine and blood (even if I admit this one could be just an add-on to the previous one, a DLC you could say in today’s world  ;))
Winter
From Here

This is my opinion and I agree with myself ! Mostly I don’t give a damn of what the topic author think of it  :D (but I’m interested in others opinions  ;))

It's not as straight-forward as it seems, really. To me, B-Sides and Abandoned Tracks and Lost Songs are compilations and not proper albums. I count Vengeance as an album but not the White Coats EP (alas I'd call that an EP). I don't really think of BWAB as an album either. It's more of an afterthought of BDAW but that is probably debatable.