Thoughts,Hopes,Dreams or Predictions when we wake on Friday Morning ?

[Ghosttrain]

Will it be a Red Dawn with at least hope for people or will it be more of the same (or worse ).....?...i predict a hung Parliament,.......it is going to be a very interesting Thursday night whatever the outcome..

PS As i live in Jersey i cannot vote,but whatever the result it will have an impact on the Island....

[Bunny]

I can only see a Tory victory, despite everything theyve got wrong. Labour, as a Labour voter, are unelectable with the current crop I'm afraid. I havent a clue who I'll vote. My conscience wont let me tick Tory but nor will it let me vote Labour, as I couldnt last time either. 

[Danny]

I can only see a Tory victory, despite everything theyve got wrong. Labour, as a Labour voter, are unelectable with the current crop I'm afraid. I havent a clue who I'll vote. My conscience wont let me tick Tory but nor will it let me vote Labour, as I couldnt last time either. 

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This is why I haven't been on this site for 2 years and I most likely won't bother coming back again. If we do lose, it'll be people like you who are entirely to blame and WILL be blamed.
Sure, Johnson lies everytime he opens his mouth and when he's found out (which is every time) just shrugs it off and lies some more, runs away from any form of scrutiny and instructs the media (including the BBC) to make up all sorts of fake news (just in the last 2 days they made up a punch thrown at hankock that never was and even accused a mother of staging her own child's photo - something the hospital refuted straight away), 88% of tory political advertising has been deemed to be lies as opposed o a whole 0% of Labour, 9 years austerity have caused the death of thousands of people but sure, 'I can't vote Labour cos I don't like the colour of Corbyn's tie' - you must be proud of yourself.

In case there's anyone left on here who's not a sad old gammon who swallows the lies of the daily fail - vote tactically, which means if you live in a constituency where your current MP is NOT tory vote for them, whoever they are; if you live in one where the tory scum won last time vote for the party who ended second last time and has the most chances to win). Do that and we DO have the number to stop them; don't do that and when the NHS and whatever is left of the welfare state are gone everyone who voted Labour will blame you and rightly so.

[Bunny]

I can only see a Tory victory, despite everything theyve got wrong. Labour, as a Labour voter, are unelectable with the current crop I'm afraid. I havent a clue who I'll vote. My conscience wont let me tick Tory but nor will it let me vote Labour, as I couldnt last time either. 

This is why I haven't been on this site for 2 years and I most likely won't bother coming back again. If we do lose, it'll be people like you who are entirely to blame and WILL be blamed.
Sure, Johnson lies everytime he opens his mouth and when he's found out (which is every time) just shrugs it off and lies some more, runs away from any form of scrutiny and instructs the media (including the BBC) to make up all sorts of fake news (just in the last 2 days they made up a punch thrown at hankock that never was and even accused a mother of staging her own child's photo - something the hospital refuted straight away), 88% of tory political advertising has been deemed to be lies as opposed o a whole 0% of Labour, 9 years austerity have caused the death of thousands of people but sure, 'I can't vote Labour cos I don't like the colour of Corbyn's tie' - you must be proud of yourself.

In case there's anyone left on here who's not a sad old gammon who swallows the lies of the daily fail - vote tactically, which means if you live in a constituency where your current MP is NOT tory vote for them, whoever they are; if you live in one where the tory scum won last time vote for the party who ended second last time and has the most chances to win). Do that and we DO have the number to stop them; don't do that and when the NHS and whatever is left of the welfare state are gone everyone who voted Labour will blame you and rightly so.
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Are you for real?
Unfortunately, I'll vote who I CHOOSE to vote for. Thats my choice as an adult, and I wont be brow beaten to vote for a party that I beleive in its current guise, will be as bad for the country but in a different way as the other. Im afraid that I dont read the Mail, disgusting rag as it is, but nor do I read the Socialist Worker. Im quite partial to the colour of Corbyn's tie, I'm not overly partial on him as a leader. So vote for someone, i dont want as PM to avoid someone else I dont want as PM is the way forward? No thanks.

Still, Im highly honoured to think if the Tories win, it will be all my fault and thats why you dont come on here. Seriously?? I dont hold sway with calling anyone "scum" because they dont have the same political beleifs as my own. Thats pretty much facism as far as Im concerned. Everyone who votes Tory is "scum"? Grow up. Youre feel that its Labour at all costs, I'm afraid I dont beleive in Momentum nor a man who when challenged, keeps schtum. Im fairly sure this site aint full of old gammons, however.
Peace.

[Danny]

Are you for real?
Unfortunately, I'll vote who I CHOOSE to vote for. Thats my choice as an adult, and I wont be brow beaten to vote for a party that I beleive in its current guise, will be as bad for the country but in a different way as the other. Im afraid that I dont read the Mail, disgusting rag as it is, but nor do I read the Socialist Worker. Im quite partial to the colour of Corbyn's tie, I'm not overly partial on him as a leader. So vote for someone, i dont want as PM to avoid someone else I dont want as PM is the way forward? No thanks.

Still, Im highly honoured to think if the Tories win, it will be all my fault and thats why you dont come on here. Seriously?? I dont hold sway with calling anyone "scum" because they dont have the same political beleifs as my own. Thats pretty much facism as far as Im concerned. Everyone who votes Tory is "scum"? Grow up. Youre feel that its Labour at all costs, I'm afraid I dont beleive in Momentum nor a man who when challenged, keeps schtum. Im fairly sure this site aint full of old gammons, however.
Peace.

I don't read the Socialist Worker either, haven't done for years. And your answer shows how many of the lies you claim not to read you've swallowed: Corbyn isn't the Lenin you make out to be, but a socialdemocrat whose programme doesn't even go as far as that of the governments of such impoverished communist dictatorships as Sweden, Norway, Finland, The Netherlands or indeed, in many aspects, Germany. Don't take this from me, you can easily check that by yourself.
The tories ARE scum because they bring forward an evil ideological war on the poor and the disadvantaged, all to help their insanely rich mates get even richer than they already are; and especially at this election they've used all the dirty tricks in the book to and lied beyond belief, even by their usual depraved standards. Those who vote for them help them to that, whether they like it or not and whatever they tell themseves to sleep at night. And under the idiotic electoral system we've got in this country (which I don't personally like, but it's the one we have to work with at present), in England at least, with the exception of a dozen constituencies ANY vote not for Labour IS a vote for the tories; again, whether you (or anyone else) like it or not. If you're happy to help them stay in power and futher progress their destructive agenda by all means do it, but don't act all surprised if those of us who don't will consider you co-responsible and treat you accordingly.
Fortunately, there seems to be about 15 of you left posting on this board (the main reason why I don't bother with it anymore, I no longer have to come here to be in touch with my NMA-related friends, the overwhelming majority of which have also stopped posting and reading it), so I really won't waste any further time on here. Tomorrow is a very important day for this country and I for one will do everything that's in my power to stop the tory scum getting a majority.

[Ghosttrain]

When i started this thread i did not expect posts like the ones from Danny....it was not intended to cause bad feelings on here,just comments,thoughts etc.So Viv if you wish to lock this post i will understand...sorry.

[Bunny]

Are you for real?
Unfortunately, I'll vote who I CHOOSE to vote for. Thats my choice as an adult, and I wont be brow beaten to vote for a party that I beleive in its current guise, will be as bad for the country but in a different way as the other. Im afraid that I dont read the Mail, disgusting rag as it is, but nor do I read the Socialist Worker. Im quite partial to the colour of Corbyn's tie, I'm not overly partial on him as a leader. So vote for someone, i dont want as PM to avoid someone else I dont want as PM is the way forward? No thanks.

Still, Im highly honoured to think if the Tories win, it will be all my fault and thats why you dont come on here. Seriously?? I dont hold sway with calling anyone "scum" because they dont have the same political beleifs as my own. Thats pretty much facism as far as Im concerned. Everyone who votes Tory is "scum"? Grow up. Youre feel that its Labour at all costs, I'm afraid I dont beleive in Momentum nor a man who when challenged, keeps schtum. Im fairly sure this site aint full of old gammons, however.
Peace.

I don't read the Socialist Worker either, haven't done for years. And your answer shows how many of the lies you claim not to read you've swallowed: Corbyn isn't the Lenin you make out to be, but a socialdemocrat whose programme doesn't even go as far as that of the governments of such impoverished communist dictatorships as Sweden, Norway, Finland, The Netherlands or indeed, in many aspects, Germany. Don't take this from me, you can easily check that by yourself.
The tories ARE scum because they bring forward an evil ideological war on the poor and the disadvantaged, all to help their insanely rich mates get even richer than they already are; and especially at this election they've used all the dirty tricks in the book to and lied beyond belief, even by their usual depraved standards. Those who vote for them help them to that, whether they like it or not and whatever they tell themseves to sleep at night. And under the idiotic electoral system we've got in this country (which I don't personally like, but it's the one we have to work with at present), in England at least, with the exception of a dozen constituencies ANY vote not for Labour IS a vote for the tories; again, whether you (or anyone else) like it or not. If you're happy to help them stay in power and futher progress their destructive agenda by all means do it, but don't act all surprised if those of us who don't will consider you co-responsible and treat you accordingly.
Fortunately, there seems to be about 15 of you left posting on this board (the main reason why I don't bother with it anymore, I no longer have to come here to be in touch with my NMA-related friends, the overwhelming majority of which have also stopped posting and reading it), so I really won't waste any further time on here. Tomorrow is a very important day for this country and I for one will do everything that's in my power to stop the tory scum getting a majority.

Ok. Youve expressed your beleifs. I disagree. I dont think Corbyn is a communist, but he is hard left and I feel that he is returning Labour to the 80's when it got hammered every election. Hard Left, as hard Right is never palatable to the majority of people. I dont actually read many newspapers relogiously because of the bias.

I'm afraid that while Labour will promise certain things, Im long enough in the tooth to know that they are just that promises with no guarantee. And I agree that the Conservative mantra of give money to the top to succeed is wrong, austerity was wholly wrong. I also belweive however throwing it downwards is wrong too, not without an incentive.

Hold me "us" accountable for whatever you wish. But if Labour do lose, then perhaps then ask why a hard left agenda has never yet accomplished anything other than chaos and disorder in the Labour ranks and as far back as the 70's and 80's, industry. And that isnt the fault of a rabid media. Nationalise the Railways. They aint perfect now, they certainly weren't perfect back then. And who is funding that??

And finally. Diane Abbot. Deputy Leader. If she is the future of Labour, god help us. Every moderate candidate has been pushed out for this hard left agenda pushed by momentum.

No sorry. Not in my name.
Peace

[Bunny]

When i started this thread i did not expect posts like the ones from Danny....it was not intended to cause bad feelings on here,just comments,thoughts etc.So Viv if you wish to lock this post i will understand...sorry.

No hard feelings here. Its politics. Some people are insanely passionate. But everyone has the right to disagree. We're all adults with our own minds. Bit pointless  going that much in to depth in hindsight, no-one will change my mind and likewise I dont expect to change anyone elses. I usually avoid the discussion for that reason, but it was an interesting thread and worth opinions being thrown at. Lots of ingredients make a good cake after all 

[Ghosttrain]

Thanks for that Bunny,that was the spirit in which the thread was started,i love a good healthy,lively debate as much as the next man.........so come on let's have some more views from people.. ...

[fiddlesticks]

Religion and politics eh? 

Differ gracefully, I say, and try not to infer the worst of motives in others.

I'll be down the polling booth later. All four of my kids are now of voting age. One even went to the hustings at her local college. Now that's pretty engaged for a young 'un.

As for who I'm voting for... I'll keep it under my hat. 

[Bunny]

Religion and politics eh? 

Differ gracefully, I say, and try not to infer the worst of motives in others.

I'll be down the polling booth later. All four of my kids are now of voting age. One even went to the hustings at her local college. Now that's pretty engaged for a young 'un.

As for who I'm voting for... I'll keep it under my hat. 

Quite agree 

[Anna Woman von NRW]

Sadly I feel it will be a small majority for the Tories (although I can always dream an impossible dream of a whopping great majority for Labour !) I think that three pieces of nonsense cut through:
1 -  the "Get Brexit Done" rubbish - ha ha really? right now it's just a withdrawl agreement and the reality doesn't start untill after that but hey you know what you voted for right?
2 - Corbyn is a communist - give me a break, nothing proposed in the manifesto is anything considered outside of the Social Democrat norm elsewhere.
3 - The Anti-Semitism claims, well perhaps there was a bit of tardiness by the Labour party in dealing with issues but honestly a pure smokecreen. I'm married to an Israeli citizen and certainly she hasn't bought any of it.

I think that the effect of any tactical voting and the huge numbers of newly registered voters are the things that maybe just might make a difference - I can but hope 

I sent my postal vote back the other week but seeing as it gets counted in the constituency of Royal Tunbridge Wells I don't think it really matters  Anyway whichever way folks might lean I do hope they at least vote - even a spoiled paper has to be counted.

Probably the most depressing campaign I can recall. Shallowness, superficiality and lies bedevilled the whole damn thing with little focus on substance - the things that really matter 

[Bunny]

On a slight aside, Im not sure I agree with postal voting, unless its been tightened up. It opens up all kinds of fraud possibilities. I get why its done but, maybe a secure online thing with a one time access code.

[Ghosttrain]

A total disaster for Labour.... ...

[Bunny]

Very much the 1980's all over again. Wrong leader and wrong direction, unfortunately. But hey, the see saw of power  always rebalances itself.