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General Category => Everything Else => Topic started by: Amandistan on November 20, 2015, 10:34:58 AM
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Now it's not safe. Nowhere is safe. My friend said if we don't enjoy our lives, they have won.
But how does one do that when their human right of safety has been taken away?
People should not fear being killed everywhere they go. It's ethically and morally wrong that they do this.
ISIS has ruined the entire world.
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Only if you let them!
Stop doing what you would normally do and the terrorists have won!
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But if you do and they kill you, then they have also won. They want to kill all of us
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Easy really... stop following the obsessively disproportionate media coverage of these types of events that plays so many tricks on you..... the fascination of the evil is human I guess, and that is how they win...
If you are interested in more probable threats of dying, consider the following list (even if wrong country, year... the gist of it remains the same):
http://concisepolitics.com/2015/06/10/tots-more-dangerous-than-terrorists-to-americans/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/scientists-calculate-odd-ways-die-282884
You're more likely to die from falling out of bed, flu, hot weather, a cop than in a terror attack.
More than 2,500 left-handed people are killed every year around the world from using equipment meant for right-handed people.
And if any of this does happen, then what did it help to worry about it beforehand? Giving in to fear of something inevitable (death) but under highly unlikely circumstances (terror attack) is the worst option for leading a life in my book...
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^I agree 100% with this.
An article I read a while ago explained how we tend to be more afraid of threats that we are less...familiar with as opposed to everday threads. For example, getting in your car and driving to work. Look at how many people get injured or die in care-related accidents every day. But (most of us) depend on a car to get to work, get around, we are used to them, also used to hearing about accidents - but still we don't worry constantly about getting hurt on our way to work.
It's just highly unlikely that you are going to die in a terrorist attack - so just do what you would normally do and enjoy life = you win. :)
Plus, the world has always been a very dangerous place, there have always been terrorist attacks, long before IS: we had the RAF in Germany, the UK had the IRA - to name but a few. These days, we get much more information way quicker than only a couple of years before so it's easy to come to believe things have gotten a lot worse - but I honestly believe that is not the case.
I'm going to a show tomorrow night - Black Star Riders - and while the poor people at the Bataclan will certainly be on everyone's mind, I am certainly not afraid.
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Only if you let them!
Stop doing what you would normally do and the terrorists have won!
Exactly :) :) :)
Carry on with life as normal.
The chances of the terrorism problems affecting me are so remote i'll live my life as usual.
If Amanda we all became so worried not one of us would venture outside our front door and then we would be more likely to be killed or injured by an accident in our own home
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To reiterate something I posted about 20 minutes ago...
If there's one thing my recent heart attack (yeah, I'm still banging on about THAT ::) ;) )has shown me is that when your numbers up, it's up. I might have died a couple of weeks ago, but I didn't. Could happen anytime, anyplace, anywhere. A school friend of mine died of a brain haemorrhage aged 12. A mates girlfriend died in a car crash aged 19. An ex-girlfriends auntie had a fatal stroke in her late 20's. I'm sure we've all got similar stories. :'(
Never let these c-words dictate your life. You have far more chance of getting killed everytime you get in your car than you have getting murdered by terrorists.
They haven't ruined the world. The worlds a cruel and random place, always was and always will be. It owes you nothing. I say, live in it to the best of your abilities and fook it all when the shit falls down.
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I agree with going on with your life is the way to go.
but I still have the constant worry of being attacked.
I was a kid during 9/11 and remember being at school and watching the news.
Most of the kids were very frightened. Some crying.
It's not a way kids should grow up. I remember the terrorist chart.
I spent a lot of childhood thinking about it. It stopped.
Then IS pricks start it again.
Now another generation of kids will be scared. I imagine kids in Paris are terrified.
That is never how it should be.
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All these things you fear so much depend on angles of vision
From down in the maze of walls you can't see what's coming
But from high on the high hills it all looks like nothing
But from high on the high hills it all looks like nothing, nothing...
look at this image and you can see, that an irrational fear campaign is going on.
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/scorpius_bucket/CURNSVsXAAAZ97c.jpg%20large.jpg) (http://s123.photobucket.com/user/scorpius_bucket/media/CURNSVsXAAAZ97c.jpg%20large.jpg.html)
it shows the count of people died by terror acts the last years
remember:
a way to keep people in line is to scare the shit out of them
that is what's happening. by the terrorists, whoever they are, and by our media who is controlled by money and money wants war
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Easy really... stop following the obsessively disproportionate media coverage of these types of events that plays so many tricks on you..... the fascination of the evil is human I guess, and that is how they win...
If you are interested in more probable threats of dying, consider the following list (even if wrong country, year... the gist of it remains the same):
http://concisepolitics.com/2015/06/10/tots-more-dangerous-than-terrorists-to-americans/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/scientists-calculate-odd-ways-die-282884
You're more likely to die from falling out of bed, flu, hot weather, a cop than in a terror attack.
More than 2,500 left-handed people are killed every year around the world from using equipment meant for right-handed people.
And if any of this does happen, then what did it help to worry about it beforehand? Giving in to fear of something inevitable (death) but under highly unlikely circumstances (terror attack) is the worst option for leading a life in my book...
Great post I was going to reply like this but you have done it already.
In the main life here in the west is safe. If you choose to read the news and apply events like that everywhere then you will live a miserable life. There are billions on this planet, just because some horrific thing happens to some doesn't mean it is all f****d.
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I agree with going on with your life is the way to go.
but I still have the constant worry of being attacked.
I was a kid during 9/11 and remember being at school and watching the news.
Most of the kids were very frightened. Some crying.
It's not a way kids should grow up. I remember the terrorist chart.
I spent a lot of childhood thinking about it. It stopped.
Then IS pricks start it again.
Now another generation of kids will be scared. I imagine kids in Paris are terrified.
That is never how it should be.
Well A, I cant help you if you have constant worry. That is a sense of perspective you will have to get yourself. :)
Most of us remember the IRA terrorism. Just near me people were killed in the centre of Warrington by a bomb while out shopping. My nearest city Manchester was devastated and people killed more than once. But I still live a good life.
As MR and others have said there are many other things that can harm or kill you and are more likely. Just forget it and live your life, the chances are so slim as to be ridiculous.
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Couple of weeks time, the Army are playing Manchester. Wouldn't miss that if Cobra said the nutters are everywhere and if the threat of an attack went from red to crimson to bloody purple!
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My best mate is getting married in Thailand end of January, I'm booked to do the photography. Think this will deter us?....................nope
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quietly sticking two fingers up at them
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Have a vape and chill out.
Agreed with everything said so far, just look at recent multiple loses of live near me, first a police helicopter falls from the sky killing several people watching a band in a small bar then a few days before last Xmas a bin lorry kills Christmas shoppers in city centre both totally tragic none the less
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vape? im a full on smoker
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^I agree 100% with this.
An article I read a while ago explained how we tend to be more afraid of threats that we are less...familiar with as opposed to everday threads. For example, getting in your car and driving to work. Look at how many people get injured or die in care-related accidents every day. But (most of us) depend on a car to get to work, get around, we are used to them, also used to hearing about accidents - but still we don't worry constantly about getting hurt on our way to work.
It's just highly unlikely that you are going to die in a terrorist attack - so just do what you would normally do and enjoy life = you win. :)
Plus, the world has always been a very dangerous place, there have always been terrorist attacks, long before IS: we had the RAF in Germany, the UK had the IRA - to name but a few. These days, we get much more information way quicker than only a couple of years before so it's easy to come to believe things have gotten a lot worse - but I honestly believe that is not the case.
I'm going to a show tomorrow night - Black Star Riders - and while the poor people at the Bataclan will certainly be on everyone's mind, I am certainly not afraid.
Hi Stephanie... sorry to bring back an old post... and I completely agree with almost everything that you're saying...
I'm a bit unsure about what you mean by equating the RAF with the IRA? :(
Not trying to insult your beliefs but as someone who had family in Warrington (as did Idopas) I'm struggling a bit with this one...?
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Surely you mean Fool smoker lol I can't criticize after 35 years of them
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Master Ray I think your thinking Royal Air Force ;) and not the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction
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Master Ray I think your thinking Royal Air Force ;) and not the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction
Ah. That might be it.
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Sorry.
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People say it's not that likely but look at this
[url][http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151119/1030380527/isil-terror-attacks-g20.html[url]
They had planned an attack on Antalya but did not go through. On night clubs and hotels.
I was in Antalya on those exact dates in the center near hotels and nightclubs.
If it had gone through there is a chance i would not be typing. It is not an irrational fear.
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Oh, Amandistan... if that's the way you truly feel, then perhaps it's time to move back to the US, move into a basement apartment and rarely walk outside your door except for groceries. A patronising comment...? Perhaps. But you've chosen to walk into a world full of potential dangers, very few of which are linked with terrorism. And, for the hundredth time, I admire you for it.
You need to decide whether you are afraid of the world (and every possible bad thing in it) or you're gonna throw yourself out there and take it all on. Those are the two options available.
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Without any intention of rudeness, surely more people are killed in America by non terrorist guns than Islamic state could ever dream of.
I guess that makes everyone's point, life ending events can happen at any time, traffic, lightning even you name it the possibilitys are endless.
As Rays recent health issue showed us all, life is short and you don't know what is around the corner, so enjoy it as much as you possibly can, especially when your age Amanda and don't have any ties.
Enjoy yourself girl and don't worry about it
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Without any intention of rudeness, surely more people are killed in America by non terrorist guns than Islamic state could ever dream of.
I guess that makes everyone's point, life ending events can happen at any time, traffic, lightning even you name it the possibilitys are endless.
As Rays recent health issue showed us all, life is short and you don't know what is around the corner, so enjoy it as much as you possibly can, especially when your age Amanda and don't have any ties.
Enjoy yourself girl and don't worry about it
This, a million times over.
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People say it's not that likely but look at this
[url][http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151119/1030380527/isil-terror-attacks-g20.html[url]
They had planned an attack on Antalya but did not go through. On night clubs and hotels.
I was in Antalya on those exact dates in the center near hotels and nightclubs.
If it had gone through there is a chance i would not be typing. It is not an irrational fear.
Yes, looked at it and there's nothing in that piece of journalism that convinces me it's true
Nobody has said it can't happen, but the odds are it's not likely to happen to you
You can't live your life in constant fear, it'll just drag you down and those around you.
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Master Ray I think your thinking Royal Air Force ;) and not the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction
Oops, yes, that's exactly it - sorry for the confusion, Master Ray (and everyone else, of course). Thank you for clearing that up. :)
People say it's not that likely but look at this
[url][http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151119/1030380527/isil-terror-attacks-g20.html[url]
They had planned an attack on Antalya but did not go through. On night clubs and hotels.
I was in Antalya on those exact dates in the center near hotels and nightclubs.
If it had gone through there is a chance i would not be typing. It is not an irrational fear
I am not quite sure how reliable that source is - but let's assume it is reliable and what they write is true.
It didn't happen and you are still alive. This is all that matters, isn't it? :) I mean, seriously, we will never know how often we have nearly escaped death because we were at a certain spot on the motorway, on some road...anywhere really...when we were. A bit earlier or later might have made a huge difference, could have meant we would have been killed or seriously injured - us or somebody we love. We can't ever know, I am sure it happens a lot , though. But we cannot and must not think about this all the time.
A dear friend of mine lives in Brussels, or pretty near, just a 10-minute drive for her. She stayed with us this past weekend and we had a great time, despite what is going on there right now. She is back now, texted me this morning. Of course it is a bit scary she says...but she won't give in to her worries. I think that's the way to go. Not easy sometimes, I know, but what else can we do? :)
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I have very bad anxiety. I never said I would not live in the world. American has been threatened by IS as well.
They threatened NYC and DC. Why would I go there?
I find it a bit ridiculing that people tell me things like not to go outside. I worry about everything. It is just how my brain is. I am sure i have worried about all the other possible ways to be killed.
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They threatened NYC and DC. Why would I go there?
Because NY/NY is one of the best places to visit on this wonderful planet of ours!
DC ain't bad either!
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Too American and expensive for my liking. I have no interest in going to NY. DC only for Smithsonian. I would rather see the western side of America if I had to choose.
I doubt it's better than Turkey. This is the best culture and people I have seen yet.
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I doubt it's better than Turkey. This is the best culture and people I have seen yet.
Would it be rude to ask where you've actually been to in Turkey?
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But you know already. From Dalaman to Antalya and in between. Mediterranean and Aegean coast.
I will go to Istanbul when I leave but am a bit nervous. I was warned by 3 different turks that the place is not safe.
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But you know already. From Dalaman to Antalya and in between. Mediterranean and Aegean coast.
I will go to Istanbul when I leave but am a bit nervous. I was warned by 3 different turks that the place is not safe.
So have you stopped at the places in between and explored or just sat on a bus?
So these 3 Turks who told you it wasn't safe; what reasons did they give?
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Amandistan, my friend, I genuinely have no idea what to say to you anymore. You travel more than most of the people in this silly world ever will. You have the guts to throw yourself out in situations and countries and people that you don't know all that much about... and yet still come back to us with lines like 'I have bad anxiety, I just worry about everything, that's the way my brain works...' :(
Be honest, hun, it doesn't sound like the most comfortable life to lead.
We're not ridiculing you. Just trying to get a grip on where you're coming from, eh?
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I have very bad anxiety. I never said I would not live in the world. American has been threatened by IS as well.
They threatened NYC and DC. Why would I go there?
I find it a bit ridiculing that people tell me things like not to go outside. I worry about everything. It is just how my brain is. I am sure i have worried about all the other possible ways to be killed.
London has suffered several times over the years through terrorisim and is STILL under threat but you've been there
What's the difference?
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But you know already. From Dalaman to Antalya and in between. Mediterranean and Aegean coast.
I will go to Istanbul when I leave but am a bit nervous. I was warned by 3 different turks that the place is not safe.
Don't believe everything you read, see or are told.
Remember the 'story' told by the Irish man you stopped with :) :)
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It is probably not the best life to lead. But i want to travel and should not be deprived of what I want because I have bad anxiety. I would have it at home, anywhere. Besides, I must escape past life anyway
I know Red. I am going to Istanbul anyway. There seems to be a rivalry with people from the rest of Turkey and Istanbul.
I don't find american culture as exciting as other cultures. There is a treat everywhere just more likely in big cities.
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I agree with all what you've said depending on the topic.
Here is a link (https://www.google.fi/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://yle.fi/uutiset/is_wants_me_young_refugee_resists_extremist_scouts/8082430&ved=0ahUKEwijpqCo66nJAhVGEiwKHcQnADIQFggZMAA&usg=AFQjCNFsoj2_g0uZGsOO8cywPOPjvwwGQg) that might be of interest to you: it's an interview of a young boy living in Finland who met a recruiter. He reveals their methods how they target possible youngsters to join the war in Syria.
After reading that only thing I think is that society should offer more opportunities to Muslim communities, maybe better jobs or something, and take them with the process in the western world.
Cheers, hope your travel will be enjoyable and safe, A. You've done something that most of us could only dream about.
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Amanda. Life IS Risk. Life, love, children, business. If you don't embrace life and let a TINY minority of people, remember there are billions on this planet, give you the idea that most people are bad which they are certainly not. Then you will miss life as it wizzes by and you are old and unable to enjoy it. Live for goodness sake! :)
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this is terrorism
http://www.france24.com/en/20151125-human-error-us-strike-kunduz-hospital-msf-doctors-without-borders
and all our bombs falling on the head of civilians in afghanistan syria or everywhere else is terrorism
how do u live with that?????????????????
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it's an interview of a young boy living in Finland who met a recruiter. He reveals their methods how they target possible youngsters to join the war in Syria.
After reading that only thing I think is that society should offer more opportunities to Muslim communities, maybe better jobs or something, and take them with the process in the western world.
Thanks for sharing, that was an interesting read. Brought to mind, unsurprsingly, the lyrics to "One of the chosen". It's easy to see why that works, I guess - I mean, if these people have nothing to lose, anything must seem so much more desirable. And once you have taken the bait it will be difficult to get out again, I am sure. :(
Better integration is the key indeed, but if I read and listen to what is going on around me here in Germany, with even seemingly sensible and intelligent people being worried and being unsettled by all sorts of rumours - I don't see how this is supposed to happen. It doesn't help that the media have a tendency to mainly report on all the negative things happening. It should be obvious that, while there is certainly some truth to it, these cases are an exception - but the majority of people never learn about things working out, going well. And our politicians don't seem to be too interested in offering a solution, in answering people's questions. Or maybe they can't. Or a bit of both.