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General Category => Everything Else => Topic started by: fiddlesticks on June 28, 2018, 12:02:57 AM
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Hi all,
Quick hello from the sunny climes of Birkenhead.
Hope to catch some of you at a gig before too long. We're another family who have brought the kids along (youngest is 16 now). They love anything from folk to metal, but especially New Model Army.
We were out and about recently, I had my NMA hoodie on. As we walked past the busker he stopped what he was playing and took up "four O'clock in the morning.... And still we cannot sleep.."
I gave him a quid, but I think he was after the hoodie. Maybe next time...
Anyways, take care, one an all.
Michael
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Where the heck is Birkenhead? What state are you in? Near New York City?
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Well there certainly wasn't much sleep last night lol .
Hello from sunny Ayrshire Scotland Michael.
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Welcome Michael,
Used to go to a club in Birkenhead called Stairways years ago.
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Welcome aboard.............greetings from sunny (but windy) Jersey. :)
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Hello from next door in hot and sunny Cheshire.
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Where the heck is Birkenhead? What state are you in? Near New York City?
You mean there's something you don't know :D :D ;) ;) ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birkenhead
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Welcome, Michael, please post often! Got any gigs lined up? If you can make it to Nottingham on 22nd December, you'll meet many of us lovely folks / utter miscreants (delete as applicable) who are active on this Forum, always a warm welcome. Some band or other will be playing as well, so that's a bonus. ;)
Best to you and yours.
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Welcome Michael, hope you enjoy yourself here and hope to be bumping in to you at some gig or post-gig somewhere.
Cheers
jc
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Where the heck is Birkenhead? What state are you in? Near New York City?
You mean there's something you don't know :D :D ;) ;) ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birkenhead
That Wiki page says this:
"Birkenhead is a town within the Metropolitan Borough of Wirral"
OK...so where the heck is the Metroploitan Borough of Wirral???
Why can't you people live in places that are known by other people? Do you get your kicks by living in some remote little village no one on Earth ever heard of? Are you like Hobbits and you live in that teeny tiny Shire? Hell, I am Saruman! I live in New York City! You've heard of me and you've heard of that city.
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It's across the Mersey from Liverpool I hope lol n it's a big town that everyone in the UK knows.
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Welcome aboard.............greetings from sunny (but windy) Jersey. :)
The little island in the English Channel? ;)
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Wiki for where I live
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewarton
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It's across the Mersey from Liverpool I hope lol n it's a big town that everyone in the UK knows.
The only reason why anybody heard of the Mersey is because of that Gerry and the Pacemakers song. But that song was 50 years ago. I bet you nobody under the age of 25 ever heard of the Mersey.
As for Liverpool...I believe some famous band came from Liverpool and put that place on the map. Frankie Goes To Hollywood.
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Wiki for where I live
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewarton
From that Wiki page:
"Stewarton is a town in East Ayrshire, Scotland."
Once again (just like that Birkenstock wiki) a town is described by being from somewhere else. Guess what? New York City isn't described that way. It doesn't say the following on Wiki:
"New York City is a town in Straford on the Hudson, County Cork."
No, it doesn't work that way for New York City. Just says King Kong came here and died here. If you can make it here, you'll make it anywhere. Kong couldn't make it here.
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Shakes his head
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Hello fiddlesticks :)
Space, the most important thing about New York is it is named after a far more historically important city and much nicer place - York.
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Space, the most important thing about New York is it is named after a far more historically important city and much nicer place - York.
You'd be amazed at how many cities, towns, and villages here are named after places over there across the pond. For instance...
- our ugly step-brother - New Jersey - is named after that place Ghosttrain springs from.
- this new member from Birkenhead...well, if you read that Wiki page (I did because I have a 148 IQ and always seek knowledge) one would learn that New York City's famous Central Park is designed after Birkenhead Park!
We over here obviously share a great deal with our defeated colonists over there.
And why address me as Space? I am Whirlwind!
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Do you get your kicks by living in some remote little village no one on Earth ever heard of?
I live so far from the nearest village (which nobody has heard of) that I have to walk all afternoon to get any kicks at all.
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Wiki for where I live
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewarton
It's a beautiful place Pol.Do you accept any immigrants?Me,wife and the cat.The cat is already a Scottish.So she won't need immigration :)
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Welcome, Michael! :) And congratulations on the obviously excellent parenting. ;)
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Hi Fiddlesticks/Michael :) Brexit refugee in Germany here :D
oh - and take no notice of the me me me genius "comedian" he's got issues ;D
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Glad you like it black eagle, I'm sure there is private lets going n you would probably get a council house after a while .
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We over here obviously share a great deal with our defeated colonists over there.
And why address me as Space? I am Whirlwind!
Is that the defeated colonist's that whooped America's ass in the American declared war of 1812, wiped out America's newly founded Naval power, kept onto Canada, burned down the White House and kept America to itself hiding behind its Atlantic cost defenses and having no major influence on World affairs till its famously late arrival into WW1 in 1917 ??
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Thanks for the warm (and educational) welcome everyone :)
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Is that the defeated colonist's that whooped America's ass in the American declared war of 1812,....
No, it's the colonists that tried to tax us even though you offered no representation in your government.
Yet for that mistreatment of us we still gladly saved your lives in WWII. We are a great people.
(By the way, you still owe us money for that Lend/Lease program that kept you afloat in the early years of that war. When are you cheapskates going to pay back your debt to us? Sending us Frankie Goes To Hollywood is not exactly repayment.)
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Is that the defeated colonist's that whooped America's ass in the American declared war of 1812,....
No, it's the colonists that tried to tax us even though you offered no representation in your government.
Yet for that mistreatment of us we still gladly saved your lives in WWII. We are a great people.
(By the way, you still owe us money for that Lend/Lease program that kept you afloat in the early years of that war. When are you cheapskates going to pay back your debt to us? Sending us Frankie Goes To Hollywood is not exactly repayment.)
I think any debt has been paid many times over as sending you FGTH may not be repayment but sending you NMA certainly is :D
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(By the way, you still owe us money for that Lend/Lease program that kept you afloat in the early years of that war. When are you cheapskates going to pay back your debt to us? Sending us Frankie Goes To Hollywood is not exactly repayment.)
2006.
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I think any debt has been paid many times over as sending you FGTH may not be repayment but sending you NMA certainly is :D
Excellent point.
However, I'm sure you are aware that my government did not accept New Model Army as repayment for your debt to us. As you might recall, our government did not let NMA in our country due to the fact that our leaders deemed the band had "no artistic merit." Frankie Goes To Hollywood had artistic value, but NMA did not. Go figure.
I suppose our glorious government officials heard "Relax" and "Sex The Black Angel" and came to that conclusion that Frankie had more artistic value than NMA. Must say I agree with them on that one. Boy, that "Sex" song is bad. Goes absolutely nowhere for three and a half minutes.
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I love the song "Sex The Black Angel". Mr Heaton was an absolutely superb drummer. On that song his drum work is phenomenal. I cannot listen without some "air drumming". My favourate song for Rob Heaton drum work.
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I think any debt has been paid many times over as sending you FGTH may not be repayment but sending you NMA certainly is :D
Excellent point.
However, I'm sure you are aware that my government did not accept New Model Army as repayment for your debt to us. As you might recall, our government did not let NMA in our country due to the fact that our leaders deemed the band had "no artistic merit." Frankie Goes To Hollywood had artistic value, but NMA did not. Go figure.
What do governments know about music? ::)
I suppose our glorious government officials heard "Relax" and "Sex The Black Angel" and came to that conclusion that Frankie had more artistic value than NMA. Must say I agree with them on that one. Boy, that "Sex" song is bad. Goes absolutely nowhere for three and a half minutes.
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Hello from Wessex
:D
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Welcome fiddlesticks, i hope you enjoy the chatter that goes around here and have a good time. BTW, dou you have a copy of the winter graphics novel? ;-)
And i have now to take some side for Frankie. I love Frankie goes to Hollywood. They were fine musicians, they had some brillinat lyrics and themes in the times, when pop music was done by musicians and the music industry began to find out the hit-wonder formula and tried to repeat it over and over. Just think about Two Tribes as a pop song, what powerful meaning and message and the video, where they put ronald reagan fighting against breshenev in a ring is brilliant. Let the rulers fight out their wars and not all the yound men:
'Cause it's no surprise that young men are heroes
It's no surprise that young men are strong
It's no surprise that young men are foolish
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Welcome fiddlesticks, i hope you enjoy the chatter that goes around here and have a good time. BTW, dou you have a copy of the winter graphics novel? ;-)
And i have now to take some side for Frankie. I love Frankie goes to Hollywood. They were fine musicians, they had some brillinat lyrics and themes in the times, when pop music was done by musicians and the music industry began to find out the hit-wonder formula and tried to repeat it over and over. Just think about Two Tribes as a pop song, what powerful meaning and message and the video, where they put ronald reagan fighting against breshenev in a ring is brilliant. Let the rulers fight out their wars and not all the yound men:
'Cause it's no surprise that young men are heroes
It's no surprise that young men are strong
It's no surprise that young men are foolish
I'll also throw out a little love for FGTH. Far from a favourite band of mine, but I'm oddly fond of their second and final album 'Liverpool'. The singles from it might have been remixed to the 'Frankie' sound, but the original album is far more rock-orientated and there are some pretty strong songs, certainly better than most of the debut album. And I always thought that HJ had a pretty good voice. Example here, Kill The Pain, really like this track, yes it's got that 80's sheen about it but far less than Relax or whatever and the band can actually play... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP8mskjCS8I ???
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Fine choice master ray, one of my favourite songs of the liverpool album. this album really has a timless sound, very own and special, and also was not easy to get into it at first, when you would have expected just more pop sound.
do you know the warriors version with gary moore on guitars?
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Fine choice master ray, one of my favourite songs of the liverpool album. this album really has a timless sound, very own and special, and also was not easy to get into it at first, when you would have expected just more pop sound.
do you know the warriors version with gary moore on guitars?
Nope, never heard that, got a link? Sounds great, love Gary Moore!
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it's of course a special 12" mix, they have so many of them and such a variety of sounds and mixes. i totally love what trevor horn and steve lipson and others cooked and brewed together in the studios.
enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50tabZ33Nhk
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... I love Frankie goes to Hollywood. They were fine musicians,
Hold everything!
I enjoyed Frankie as much as the next guy, but when you say "they were fine musicians" I have to wonder what drugs your National Health Service doles out to you people across the pond.
They were not fine musicians, they were the product of a fine -- immensely talented -- producer. Frankie were the ultimate studio band. Sure they could produce the tracks live, but those "fine musicians" as you call them did not create those songs. Producer Trevor Horn is Frankie. His tales of going over tracks for months are legendary. (And by the way, the iconic bass from "Relax" was all from a studio musician - Norman Watt-Roy - not a member of Frankie.)
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Yes, i know that. I said fine muscicians and not good;-) and i referred to some demo tapes, when they actually played, which was a late discovery of mine and a bit of a surprise when some re-issues and lost track albums came out. i think of them as one of the first boy groups, but still you have to come up with a song and the lyrics and the melody.
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...some demo tapes, when they actually played, ...
Does it really matter if they were top musicians or even played on the albums or not? I'm no musical snob. Who cares if it was all done in the studio (The Beatles' "Strawberry Fields" is mostly the work of the engineers and producer...and I love every second of it). A top song is a top song whether the band plays it or the producer concocts it. In Frankie's case, the producer did the heavy lifting and I'm glad for that. Some of those "Two Tribes" 12 inch remixes were astonishing in their brilliance.
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Greetings from across the pond to you and yours Michael / fiddlesticks. Have a great time here and thanks for enlightening your kid(s) via the light and love of NMA. :)
...why address me as Space? I am Whirlwind!
Hey! Wait a minute Swhirlywindbreakerdudermeistermeister, I thought you were Mark from yonks ago. ;)
I suppose our glorious government officials heard "Relax" and "Sex The Black Angel" and came to that conclusion that Frankie had more artistic value than NMA.
LMAO! Almost peed (sp?) myself there, Whirlwind. ;D
Boy, that "Sex" song is bad. Goes absolutely nowhere for three and a half minutes.
Trust me, that Frankie song... goes nowhere, literally, lyrically, ever, lol. This one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyoTvgPn0rU), to me, is the only Frankie Goes To Hollywood song worth listening to / purchasing. Could never get into Holly Johnson's voice, with the exception of the one song I just linked in this post. Found his singing voice to be far too nasally and too high pitched for my tastes, liking.
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...some demo tapes, when they actually played, ...
Does it really matter if they were top musicians or even played on the albums or not? I'm no musical snob. Who cares if it was all done in the studio (The Beatles' "Strawberry Fields" is mostly the work of the engineers and producer...and I love every second of it). A top song is a top song whether the band plays it or the producer concocts it. In Frankie's case, the producer did the heavy lifting and I'm glad for that. Some of those "Two Tribes" 12 inch remixes were astonishing in their brilliance.
i must say, that for the first time i can totally agree with that post of yours. :o
the mastery of re-mixing is my whole fascination with the trevor horn band. i was very young that days and i listened to the mixes and they teached me to listen, because they took known patterns and sound and changed them. there is this famous 12" of rage hard, sometimes called "the young persons guide to the 12 inch", where a beatuiful speaking womens voice is explaining what is happening in the music at that moment. and it takes layers away so you can concentrate on the" funky guitar" or it explained to me what an anti-climax was. these records have so much listening quality.
and now back to master ray. did you listen to the gary moore version? didn't it just blew you away? :D
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...some demo tapes, when they actually played, ...
Does it really matter if they were top musicians or even played on the albums or not? I'm no musical snob. Who cares if it was all done in the studio (The Beatles' "Strawberry Fields" is mostly the work of the engineers and producer...and I love every second of it). A top song is a top song whether the band plays it or the producer concocts it. In Frankie's case, the producer did the heavy lifting and I'm glad for that. Some of those "Two Tribes" 12 inch remixes were astonishing in their brilliance.
i must say, that for the first time i can totally agree with that post of yours. :o
the mastery of re-mixing is my whole fascination with the trevor horn band. i was very young that days and i listened to the mixes and they teached me to listen, because they took known patterns and sound and changed them. there is this famous 12" of rage hard, sometimes called "the young persons guide to the 12 inch", where a beatuiful speaking womens voice is explaining what is happening in the music at that moment. and it takes layers away so you can concentrate on the" funky guitar" or it explained to me what an anti-climax was. these records have so much listening quality.
and now back to master ray. did you listen to the gary moore version? didn't it just blew you away? :D
C, I just checked it out... that's MENTAL! Absolutely excellent! Thank you so much for bringing it to my attention!
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I'm very glad that you liked it. I mean if you like the liverpool album and gary moore also, this is just the perfect blend and then i knew that you have to like it. a fantastic, rare 12" that i'm happy to own.
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We have guests over at the moment. We did the tourist thing and jumped on a tourist bus around Liverpool. The guide made reference to the "best band to have come out of the city, which is, of course - Frankie Goes to Hollywood...."
It's official, (I guess)
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We have guests over at the moment. We did the tourist thing and jumped on a tourist bus around Liverpool. The guide made reference to the "best band to have come out of the city, which is, of course - Frankie Goes to Hollywood...."
It's official, (I guess)
How ridiculous. everyone knows that the best band to come out of Liverpool is Dalek, I Love You.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aIbilVaTk8
;)
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Ha, ha, i like that statement by the tourist guide and i can image some folks in the bus, turning their heads to each other, shaking them a liitle in shock, not able to believe that the official best band the beatles were not mentioned. and right so!