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Title: End of Days (new song)
Post by: MaoLee on June 21, 2019, 06:53:15 AM
Enjoy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwA10Ju66oQ&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2bRGswo4EEIRY9xgXtXqd4JaustKA5blk59FkoeNzcqel1eQlvCkMgL54
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: cthulhu on June 21, 2019, 07:21:26 AM
Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!

Here's the official Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV5zFj8TJLU

Never before i was so immediately into a new release.
The song, the instruments, the harmonys, the production, the lyrics, the meaning, the beautiful power...
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: Ghosttrain on June 21, 2019, 08:14:37 AM
Superb....powerful stuff...
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: Pol on June 21, 2019, 09:24:31 AM
Just give it a proper listen ( tv with sound bar n sub ) . Fkn excellent n think it's gonna grow . Different enough as always but still has that classic nma stamp . Very powerful and passionate.
Title: New song, "END OF DAYS" (lyrics) video!!!!!
Post by: 8 on June 21, 2019, 01:25:45 PM
YES!
:D   :D   :D   :D   :D

Alas, something to savour while waiting for the new album to drop!

Love, love, LOVE the "End of Days" song and video!  Was surprised, in an extremely ecstatic way, to discover that they made it a lyrics video!  I particularly love how they (was it you Mr. White, who put together this wonderful video?) worked in, fused the incredibly powerful elements of both fire AND water together - made them appear as though one and the same, like brethren / siblings.  The two opposites (fire & water), via the video's visuals and fluidity / movement within it, actually reveal to us that the two often-times-healing, yet, potentially-destructive elements are quite similar, indeed -  possess similar traits, characteristics, that normally, one wouldn't pick up on, or even realise, in day-to-day life - how brilliant!  Wonderfully done, kudos!  8)

Thank YOU NMA!  Only 2 months and 2 days away, now... woo-hoo!!!  I can hardly wait!   :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: 8 on June 21, 2019, 01:36:49 PM
Just give it a proper listen ( tv with sound bar n sub ) . Fkn excellent n think it's gonna grow . Different enough as always but still has that classic nma stamp . Very powerful and passionate.

It's never the same NMA listening experience unless the walls start breathing, and the nails start poppin' out of 'em floorboards, eh?  ;)  Well, in my experience anyway!  :D  Sounds as though you've got the best sound set up so far... damn sweet!  8)
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: 8 on June 21, 2019, 01:41:24 PM
Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!

Here's the official Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV5zFj8TJLU

Never before i was so immediately into a new release.
The song, the instruments, the harmonys, the production, the lyrics, the meaning, the beautiful power...

Wow!  Wow!  Wow!  SO happy too see YOU back, posting again cthulhu!  :D  Missed you lots 'round here, honestly... such a comfort to have you back, Klaus!  :)
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: cthulhu on June 21, 2019, 01:53:01 PM
Thank you very, very much! The time of my sulkilyness and self-pity is over;-)
Just straight on for the days ahead..
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: 8 on June 21, 2019, 01:55:48 PM
Thank you very, very much! The time of my sulkilyness and self-pity is over;-)
Just straight on for the days ahead..

Awesome times ahead then, ACE!!  8)
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: lupus225 on June 21, 2019, 03:21:54 PM
Lyrics are top stuff, not over-impressed by the music so far but that may change.
Still, I'm looking forward to the album...very much  :D
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: Darkness on June 21, 2019, 04:42:19 PM
Listened to it at work, a co-worker was with me and he really enjoyed it. A new fan in the making  8)
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: MaoLee on June 21, 2019, 05:06:36 PM
Lyrics are top stuff, not over-impressed by the music so far but that may change.
Still, I'm looking forward to the album...very much  :D

Me either. As alway, the lyrics are very complex, I like the reference to  the book 1984, but I struggle a bit with the musical part. Some moments - it throws me completely out the song. The other so far known song "Wait and see" is more straight and angry. But maybe it still grows and many of the live interpretations differ a bit from the studio versions.
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: Shush on June 21, 2019, 05:11:53 PM
I loved first listen. Like the classic NMA of old bass line. Video is very good also. Great stuff, very pleased  ;)
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: Master Ray on June 21, 2019, 06:38:59 PM

Ah, I do love it when a track or two drops before the album comes out... kind of like a starter before the main meal... and this starter is very tasty indeed!   :D
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: andycoxuk on June 21, 2019, 07:09:49 PM
I thinks as always a progression from what came before... was blown away by this.... wouldn’t dare to presume to interpret but to me “end of days” and the fireworks just started thinking about what sort of world we can be in with trump as president and what seems increasingly likely Boris “Tim nice but dim” Johnson as prime minister. Maybe this is the start of the end of days......
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: popmarter on June 21, 2019, 08:56:32 PM
Horrible, sound is crushed to death. No dynamics in the song. Boring as hell.  :-[

Not gonna spend a dime on this.
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: Master Ray on June 21, 2019, 10:10:57 PM
Horrible, sound is crushed to death. No dynamics in the song. Boring as hell.  :-[

Not gonna spend a dime on this.

Well, that's, like your opinion, man...  ;)
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: andycoxuk on June 22, 2019, 08:41:40 AM
I’m voting it as set opener..... :)
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: Mawsley on June 22, 2019, 08:59:29 AM

Horrible, sound is crushed to death. No dynamics in the song. Boring as hell.  :-[

Not gonna spend a dime on this.

I will spend more than a dime on it, but agree about it feeling flat. It’s like a number of samples of NMA songs were fed into a machine to automatically generate this. I think that’s the first time I’ve gone meh to a new release.

Hoping it’s going to grow on me.
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: Anna Woman von NRW on June 22, 2019, 11:36:24 AM
Well I quite liked it  ;D Just had a double listen. Kinda trippy,  quite eyes closed & dancey , darker undertones and lyrical sharp. Roll on the album release  :)
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: Johnz on June 22, 2019, 12:29:47 PM

I will spend more than a dime on it, but agree about it feeling flat. It’s like a number of samples of NMA songs were fed into a machine to automatically generate this. I think that’s the first time I’ve gone meh to a new release.

Hoping it’s going to grow on me.

That was my first impression too but it has grown on me quite a bit. It sounds like a pumped-up Flying Through The Smoke. I think it will be great live.
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: smalltownpoland on June 22, 2019, 02:06:17 PM
Song is pretty good. I hope there will be some more let's call them singles before the album will came out. We'll see
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: Bever on June 22, 2019, 02:49:41 PM
I like the song, but I must admit that I though the sound was not perfect.
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: huwcamden on June 23, 2019, 10:00:45 AM
I gotta disagree about the production, it is absolutely brutal, taking the rawness and edge of vengeance and winter and upping it afew gears, awesome. The songs pretty good to, worked around that insistant, repetitive riff, and the lyrics are so good they are being flashed up in the video Manics style! Superb. Only thing I would say is I hope that the album has afew sacharine pop moments to contrast.
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: cthulhu on June 23, 2019, 10:06:50 AM
....we wish you good luck for the future and we'll leave you with this...

the end of days came and hit me with the full force of "synchronicity".
Wikipedia:
Synchronicity (German: Synchronizität) is a concept, first introduced by analytical psychologist Carl Jung, which holds that events are "meaningful coincidences" if they occur with no causal relationship yet seem to be meaningfully related.

As so often with nma songs i feel strongly connected to the meaning, which of course i myself lay into it and it will mostly be subjective And we all see what we want to see What we need to see, what we have to see  and i can find analogies and metaphors which seem to fit perfectly to the things that happen around.

So the end of days....

Last night I dreamed that we built a fire in a wild garden
We took all the holy books and we burned them
All those pages to ashes, every last one of them

Since many, many years i read publications by a switzer analyst, he has founded the institute for "existenzanalyse" in biel and he is using cabalistic techniques to come to conclusions. A day before "end of days" i received a new publication: "endzeit"...

the expression on your faces says you've been cheated - well you've been cheated but not in the way that you think

When again did we just once again escape kind of a final-war, because trump didn't feel good to start it, at that moment..?
i think it was two days before the release of end of days...

We went to see the fall of Rome - I thought it would please us
To watch how the mighty go in a blaze of hubris
But I just stood there hypnotised by all the beautiful madness


associations:
you say you're bored of the fireworks - now you want to see the fire - You screamed give us Liberty or give us Death Now you've got both, what do you want next ? - we're long past being careful of what we wish for - They're waiting round here for something to happen They won't really want it when it rolls out to greet them - we can't go back to uninvent the wheel that we ride - fridays for future - to find a place like a punch thrown into space that needs a place to land a face to land - Soon they'll be hunting for witches for the burning - this end of days is gonna be a lot of days slow motion - If we hold our nerve, they will travel right over us; they'll be going so fast they will never even notice us

on a personal level, i live through my end of days right now. my days in hamburg are counted, i've quit my job months ago, my project of becoming an entrepreneur has just died finally some weeks ago and i will go back to my hometown, i've just found a flat right to my parents and this suits me very well.

for me this all has to do with the end of days. i left the big city cologne years ago, kind of to prepare myself for the end of days, to try to live differently from the big city life and i moved back to my hometown. green and grey...
then after 3 years i had to move to hamburg, because my son was moving there or better say: being moved. so now these days in hamburg are also counted for and i once again go back to my hometown..

i know this may not connect really well to you, the reader, and what it has to do with the song, but to me there's much there. synchronicity...and the song once again makes me feel connected to a certain kind of view about whats going on and how everything is changing around us.
and i feel i should also change...faster i mean.

so everything is just fine, i love the new song, i'm looking forward to the new album, to the next live shows...


@MaoLee
you wrote about the references to 1984. could you please specify this? i haven't read it (yet) and i only know about it like most of the people do. big brother and apple and so...

The sound was mentioned and criticised here and i imagine that it has to do with the hard hitting drums, that seem to overlay a little bit but i think this is mostly due to compressed online format and it will sound way better from the cd or vinyl.

i totally love this energy, the kind of directness it has. i think this will be a big part of the new record, a more spontanous and maybe sometimes seeming to lack a bit of fine-tuning feel to it, but that is what i hope for!!, after the description of what they wanted to do and record.

(and thanks to 8 for inspiring me to try to get a little colouring and desing going on here. i don't think i've failed to big but you do it so much better. damn, it's so exhausting to do that ;-) )
Title: End of one thing always marks the beginning of something else, hopefully better.
Post by: 8 on June 23, 2019, 01:10:09 PM
....we wish you good luck for the future and we'll leave you with this...

the end of days came and hit me with the full force of "synchronicity".
Wikipedia:
Synchronicity (German: Synchronizität) is a concept, first introduced by analytical psychologist Carl Jung, which holds that events are "meaningful coincidences" if they occur with no causal relationship yet seem to be meaningfully related.

As so often with nma songs i feel strongly connected to the meaning, which of course i myself lay into it and it will mostly be subjective And we all see what we want to see What we need to see, what we have to see  and i can find analogies and metaphors which seem to fit perfectly to the things that happen around.

So the end of days....

Last night I dreamed that we built a fire in a wild garden
We took all the holy books and we burned them
All those pages to ashes, every last one of them

Since many, many years i read publications by a switzer analyst, he has founded the institute for "existenzanalyse" in biel and he is using cabalistic techniques to come to conclusions. A day before "end of days" i received a new publication: "endzeit"...

the expression on your faces says you've been cheated - well you've been cheated but not in the way that you think

When again did we just once again escape kind of a final-war, because trump didn't feel good to start it, at that moment..? i think two days before the release of end of days...

We went to see the fall of Rome - I thought it would please us
To watch how the mighty go in a blaze of hubris
But I just stood there hypnotised by all the beautiful madness


associations:
you say you're bored of the fireworks - now you want to see the fire - You screamed give us Liberty or give us Death Now you've got both, what do you want next ? - we're long past being careful of what we wish for - They're waiting round here for something to happen They won't really want it when it rolls out to greet them - we can't go back to uninvent the wheel that we ride - fridays for future - to find a place like a punch thrown into space that needs a place to land a face to land - Soon they'll be hunting for witches for the burning - this end of days is gonna be a lot of days slow motion - If we hold our nerve, they will travel right over us; they'll be going so fast they will never even notice us

Ooh!  I love how your connecting dots, showing possible song / lyrical connections, Cthulhu!  A lot of those, I hadn't even seen or considered relating to each other before.  Incredibly fascinating, inspiring!   :D


on a personal level, i live through my end of days right now. my days in hamburg are counted, i've quit my job months ago, my project of becoming an entrepreneur has just died finally some weeks ago and i will go back to my hometown, i've just found a flat right to my parents and this suits me very well.

for me this all has to do with the end of days. i left the big city cologne years ago, kind of to prepare myself for the end of days, to try to live differently from the big city life and i moved back to my hometown. green and grey...
then after 3 years i had to move to hamburg, because my son was moving there or better say: being moved. so now these days in hamburg are also counted for and i once again go back to my hometown..

i know this may not connect really well to you, the reader, and what it has to do with the song, but to me there's much there. synchronicity...and the song once again makes me feel connected to a certain kind of view about whats going on and how everything is changing around us.
and i feel i should also change...faster i mean.

so everything is just fine, i love the new song, i'm looking forward to the new album, to the next live shows...

Thanks for sharing all that, Klaus.  Life throws a lot of crap in our way, more often than not.  Please don't ever allow any of it to condition, change or phase you, in a negative way.  You're above it!!  Always, always, always remember that.  :)


@MaoLee
you wrote about the references to 1984. could you please specify this? i haven't read it (yet) and i only know about it like most of the people do. big brother and apple and so...

Yeah, I haven't read the book "1984" either.  :-\  So a brief explanation of the connection, between the two - be it a direct lyrical line lifted, inspired by, OR theme of the novel, etc. - would be much appreciated by me, as well.  :)


The sound was mentioned and criticised here and i imagine that it has to do with the hard hitting drums, that seem to overlay a little bit but i think this is mostly due to compressed online format and it will sound way better from the cd or vinyl.

Completely agree with you Cthulhu.  :)  I think this is something people are forgetting  :(  OR, are choosing to forget.  And then the one poster who won't spend a dime on the record because of how they feel about just one song, is out right mind-boggling, silly.  Wonder if that person even heard "Watch and Learn" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8lxOpIHzZU) yet?  ???  They're both great songs!  The latter's my favourite, between the two songs we've been so lucky to hear, thus far.  Might be because it's from a live recording, perhaps because it's a bit more melodic, OR maybe because I just love when Mr. Sullivan sings about monkeys.  I don't know, but that whole album IS going to kick serious ass!  And I can hardly wait.   8)


i totally love this energy, the kind of directness it has. i think this will be a big part of the new record, a more spontaneous and maybe sometimes seeming to lack a bit of fine-tuning feel to it, but that is what i hope for!!, after the description of what they wanted to do and record.

It definitely has an energy to it for sure, the new album "From Here", even if only going by the impressions of just these two songs, "End of Days"  and  "Watch and Learn".  NMA have NOT lost their touch.  They are still as raw and powerful as ever.  'I'm not worried, now.  I'm not worried, now.'   8)


(and thanks to 8 for inspiring me to try to get a little colouring and desing going on her. i don't think i've failed to big but you do it so much better. damn, it's so exhausting to do that ;-) )

gushing lol, you are too kind and humble Klaus.  :)  But I don't do anything better than the next person, honestly, that's not my intent anyway.  I just like to have fun, and colouring in posts / words, fulfills that part of me, while I'm online.  As for using colour being exhausting... it sure is!  However, only when I'm in the process of colouring in a post, and then the computer crashes, freezes, loses all my work... lol, then it sucks big time (which happens too often).  Still, it doesn't stop me though.  I find it keeps me from getting bored on the board… lol.  ;)

It is so good to see you back here, Cthulhu!  Have a fantastic day, Klaus!  :)
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: MaoLee on June 23, 2019, 03:06:17 PM
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@MaoLee
you wrote about the references to 1984. could you please specify this? i haven't read it (yet) and i only know about it like most of the people do. big brother and apple and so...

It's about a daily ritual where people sit together and they have to watch movies about the opponent party leader holding a speech and for two minutes they rant and spit all of their anger and their hate that they built up in this totalitarian surveillance state against this opposed leader shown in the video. The clearly intended effect is distraction from the real leader who causes their fears.  Could possible connect the "cheated" lines in this song.

I guess States Radio contains another reference "where every week is hate week" about the same subject.

Here is the scene from the movie during this gathering:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4zYlOU7Fpk&fbclid=IwAR3bE32Q3VOUg5STSGGL85l3CB4zdLD63ztH3VHi4dVPQf86NnkWIAGJwmY
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: nkdublu on June 23, 2019, 04:32:30 PM
I gotta disagree about the production, it is absolutely brutal, taking the rawness and edge of vengeance and winter and upping it afew gears, awesome.

Im glad you said that huw, after listening to this and the 'watch & learn' video (And reading the lyrics to the latter), my  first impressions were that they were both brutal and almost blunt in their subtlety. I couldn't break it down and articulate it as you have done, but I am really looking forward to the album
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: cthulhu on June 23, 2019, 05:18:11 PM
@MaoLee
Thanks for explaining. But...;-)
I just have to ask further...
When i first read your comment i instantly connected your explanation to the "they are running out of tickets for the two minute hate" part, because of the two minute rant in 1984 which you described.
now what i don't get is where you see the connection to the "cheated" lines..?

to me the part "the expression on your face says that you've been cheated..." has an overall significance and  connects for me to the movements in the world, fridays for future as an example, in which people kind of wake up to the wrong life that was put upon them, but they kind of react the wrong way and address the wrong actions and mistakes and demand quick solutions to complex problems.

yes, things that you interpret into things;-)

..and i want to add, that i don't think that part has something to do with that movemets i wrote about. this is like often the lyrics have metaphors and images for feelings and emotions when watching the world..if you get specific, it looses its meaning.
does that make any sense?
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: MaoLee on June 23, 2019, 06:02:21 PM
I don't really think you can grade the lyrics down on an overall personal level as you could do this with many many other songs. I guess that this song stands clearly in it's political context about radical changes the world has to face at the moment and further on and it won't even get better until the end of days. So the lines

"It isn’t just yet
We have to trample over each other to reach air
We will mix and mend when we have to
We will celebrate when we can"

contrast the path we are sadly really on. Seems to be the last spark of hope in this turmoil we have to hold onto to alter this course. And we still can.

For the cheated lines i think they contextualising the 2minutehate i have the idea they are clearly deluded by their leader, cause they think the real evildoer is the leader of the opponent party which he isn't! So they are cheated but not the way they think.
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: cthulhu on June 23, 2019, 06:27:16 PM
I don't really think you can grade the lyrics down on an overall personal level as you could do this with many many other songs. I guess that this song stands clearly in it's political context about radical changes the world has to face at the moment and further on and it won't even get better until the end of days.

Well, i can! ;-)
Just kidding...i think i understand what you are saying and i see it the same way, kind of.
but i also kind of think that everything is based and seen on a personal level.
but of coure, the lines we're talking about deal with what you've said, the political context about radical changes and that's what i also mentioned.

but what about this. my personal level is: that i already acted on the end of days, years ago.
when i decided for myself, that i don't want to live in a big city for what is about to come in the near future and i made a radical change, where i chose to live again in my small hometown.

normally you live there where you find work.
so my radical change was, that i wanted to find work where i chose to live. and to do that i began an apprenticeship at the age of 39 to become a chef, because that was the work i could do there.

so to me there is also this very direct personal meaning, the release-date of the song, the phase i'm in at the moment and its meaning itself, what it has to say. it's like a confirmation and recognition of that feeling i have and so it is important to me.

and remember that the personal level i was talking about has to do with synchronicity where by definition there are:
"meaningful coincidences" if occuring with no causal relationship, yet seem to be meaningfully related.

Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: lotus on June 23, 2019, 08:13:42 PM
I like the song :)
(And the video/artwork, too)
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: dilla on June 26, 2019, 04:36:47 AM
Always play new songs a few times before judging and I really love this.IMHO the onlyband you can trust to come up with great songs time and time again
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: Mawsley on June 26, 2019, 12:58:30 PM
Always play new songs a few times before judging ...

Yep, it's growing on me now.
Title: Re: End of Days (new song)
Post by: MaoLee on June 26, 2019, 05:29:36 PM
I didn't listen to the song for 3 days and while I listen to it some minutes ago it finally blew my mind away. Can't wait to hear it live!  :D