Favourite NMA song for JS lyrics ?

[Willard]

As long as 51st state is a topic, what part of the song can I attribute to Ashley Cartwright and the Shakes, and what part to NMA?

I sourced a video of the Shakes performing it, and it seemed like the NMA version is a pretty straight cover.  Can someone point me to what NMA added to earn co-writing credits?

I'm not trying to be anything other than curious, by the by.  The video of the Shakes was not of the best quality, so I can't say for sure that my investigation was all that thorough.

[Pol]

The good mr shush post a link  to the song about a year ago when i asked a question about the song. Now I'm only going on what i can remember. I think that only the chorus was the same. It was done in a rockabilly style.

[Pol]

Its basically a cover version

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lm40IRhr6iQ

[Master Ray]

I do like that.

[Willard]

Right, thanks. Sounds like the music changed a fair bit, lyrics not too much. The Shakes version is definitely due its credit!

[Shush]

Looked a little more into this. Found this

http://web.archive.org/web/19990824174128/www.bd7.net/faq/index.asp?Major=3&Mid=4&Minor=2

As far as I know (happy to corrected if wrong) its the only NMA song recorded with lyrics by someone else ( other than live material )

[Willard]

Right, of course the third verse (not the same as the first) is not in the Shakes version we see in the video.

[Anna Woman von NRW]

I got bored and got to thinking............

I don't think I have a favourite song for lyrics, or music come to think of it. Doesn't it depend on how you are feeling at any given time? After all unless there is something wrong with you,  you don't live out your life in a single frame of mind. So, one day Bloodsports might perfectly encapsulate how I'm feeling and what I want to hear coming out the speakers but on a totally different day I might need to hear the empathy of Dawn, another day I could just be totally with See You In Hell. After 35 years it's like having an emotional jukebox at your fingertips.

Having gone off on a bit of a pontification, it has to be said that Vengeance never fails to hit the spot.

Anyway, back to the current conversation - I'm quite pleased that I have caused 51st State to play at the Western (Wailing) Wall - it appeals to the spiky gobby b*itch in me.

[Darkness]

The English Army seemed to have open fire on innocent people watching a football match for no reason.

Are you sure about this ?

This happened in Dublin in 1920 at Croke Park, at a Gaelic football match.

[MARKXE]

https://www.crokepark.ie/gaa-museum/gaa-archive/gaa-museum-irish-times-articles/bloody-sunday,-1920

[Master Ray]

Thought I'd BUMP this one after seeing it played in Chester... so valid after recent hysterical headlines about immigrants in newspapers...

You could be there - on a dark October night
Waiting for the moment to be swimming across the freezing river
Holding a plastic bag of belongings just out of the water
Climbing up the banks on the other side, hiding in the trees
So cold that you hardly show as a target
On the heat seeking gear of the Border Control
But you made it, you're another one over
Sleeping on a bench in a railway station in the heart of Europe
Haven't eaten anything for two days straight
But where theres a will, there's always going to be a way
And every door is guarded and every guard costs money
So the women are bought and kept and raped and sold as slaves
Because the family borrowed from The Man
And The Man has always got to be repaid
For the deals of the borders and the fake IDs
And the stolen passports all locked away
While the women are working and gagging down on their knees
And somewhere in the back of Terminal Three
In the clogged-up corridors of the Immigration Authorities
Whole families with the wrong bits of paper
Are waiting to be sent back to where they came from,
Escorted by officials out across the tarmac
With their wrists bound tight with cable-ties behind their backs
It's dawn and there's fog in Rotterdam harbour
And the guard's on his break and the dogs are chained by the wire
Three figures come out from behind the cranes
And make it across the train tracks
Clamber aboard a Panamanian freighter headed for the Isle of Grain
Find a place to hide in a stack of containers - another payload of World Trade
Because goods are free to move but not people
Oil is free to move but not people
Jobs are free to move but not people
Money is free to move but not people
And today they got a man hauled off a truck in the Port of Calais
We watch them in silence as they lead him away clutching his battered suitcase
But his face betrays him - lost and scared and defeated
Sitting in the back of the white Port Authority van
Well, where do any of us come from? It's pretty hard to say
While high in the sky above us tonight
The bombers are heading the other way - south and east
Into the blood red crimson sunrise of another Imperial day

[Unruh]

Wow. That one is REALLY hard but I'm going with Fireworks Night but my mind could change tomorrow. His lyrics are so good that the best ones are whichever ones I'm listening to at the moment but I'm trying not to be lazy

[Shush]

Still Here, has some interesting lyrics. Kind of gives a Witch's response and defiance in the face of real life Witch hunters in the 1600's. There was an informative documentary on T.V. recently about Matthew Hopkins. He was on a profitable racket. Paid for each Witch he killed, and gave himself the title "Witch Finder General". Very superstitious population at the time, anyone out of the ordinary may be suspected of being a Witch. When a town or  village new he was on his way, they basically started to pick out potential Witch's, usually someone who jut did not fit in or was disliked.  Hopkins happy to oblige and then charge the town a hefty fee for his work.

[Unruh]

These rules do not agree
They're only sophistry
They don't apply to me

I was taught not to cry
I do not need to cry
I can hold myself inside

States Radio is also the most painfully accurate vision of modern America that I've ever heard in a song. To say Justin nailed it is understatement.

[Guillaume]

Which are your favourite lyrics on the last album "Winter"?