Mother Tongues

[lotus]

I agree with Rusco.As a native turkish speaker,I sometimes hardly find words to express my feelings here on NB.And I stopped apologizing and worrying about my english cos Im sure somehow I am being able to express what I feel to all sweet people here.Of course a lot of wrong typings and grammar mistakes I'm aware of and especially at phrasal verbs I'm still very bad but trying my best at least I studied english all by myself from 3 Carter USM cassettes and a small dictionary when I was a teenager and added more later being an NMA fan,it helped a lot.Funny thing is my english skills helped me to complete my education and to get a job.So thanks to carter usm and nma.That even took me to study japanese language and literature at university and graduate as a linguistic.Today still earning my life on that but language is a living thing.The more you use,you keep it alive,the less you use ,you forget many things.Even your mother tongue.To be honest I can't call myself a linguistic,that's only a diploma thing.Good thing with the english is; if you re not an native speaker, you learn something new everytime.When I speak to someone no problem at communicate.But when you write something to a forum more careful you have to be.

I agree with you Black Eagle Rising
Old school English, but my interest for the meaning of the lyrics of songs and the internet is helping me not to forget all I`ve learned in my youth. Talking after drinking 2 beers is easier than writing or reading some books; had no problrms with Joolz and her original english written versions (but "Thresholds of Peace" by Matthew Sullivan in English - I understood only 50 % and not enough  )
But I don`t give up and post here sometimes

[Rusco]

I'm wondering how many different versions there are about "early bird" sayings? 

[Amandistan]

Well the point in this is about writing and talking in English.

It's not my mother tongue, and see at times difficult to find a right way to express the things. What's the most difficult to me, is the amount of so called small talk. I don't know how much it's used in different occasions. When I would like to be polite to all of you, I find some problems when translating it into English, because in Finnish we tend to say things quite straight; 'on your face' way, without being rude or something like that.

Hope you get the idea. How about you; is there something you would like to share about the topic? I know there are quite many Germans here too that have a NMA forum of their own in German.

I think it would be nice if we'd talk together in a same language too.

My mother tongue is english and i find small talk very difficult. When I do it , it seems totally unnatural and people often stare. On a whole UK, Canada, America and Australia are polite and good at hiding their true feelings. I do not fit in with the culture. I relate to the slavic culture. People say whatever they mean there even if it seems very rude in english speaking countries.

 

[Rusco]

There's a same word in Finnish for meaning a jam or bottleneck in production/factories - AND having a hard-on. However, there's also a word that means a profession/ career which also includes this word that is: "a hard-on specialist". It's the person that supervises industrial processions and manages set ups for a pause in production with mimimal costs.

This word is called seisokki-insinööri.

[Bunny]

There's a same word in Finnish for meaning a jam or bottleneck in production/factories - AND having a hard-on. However, there's also a word that means a profession/ career which also includes this word that is: "a hard-on specialist". It's the person that supervises industrial processions and manages set ups for a pause in production with mimimal costs.

This word is called seisokki-insinööri.

Well their is a lesson for all of us.....never get your hard on stuck in a bottleneck......
Oooh matron 

[Whirlwind]

My mother tongue is American. I can speak three other languages (Spanish, English, and Russian) to varying degrees of competence.

One day in future (think STAR TREK times) I do feel here on Earth there will be one unifying language. Sure people will still have their own lingo, but globally there will be one standard.

[Isaac(Black Eagle Rising)]

I hope that wouldn't happen.By the way english is already a world language but only one color would be so boring I think.

[Whirlwind]

I hope that wouldn't happen.

It wouldn't be bad at all to have one common language. We already have one common numeral set. Two is two in America, Peru, Germany, Iran... We also have a common set of musical notes.
 A language for the entire world would be a thing of unity. Also convenience.

[Isaac(Black Eagle Rising)]

Uniting the world can not be made by language.(and I personally don't believe there will be a world unity in the future) language is part of a multicultural world and a cultural heritage carries the old cultures from past times to present day. A common language makes somethings okay about communication barriers but not at all.Numeric systems and music notes are not a good example because they are different things.We already have English as a universal language but it has not become a world language by purpose of unity.That was a natural result of colonization,wars,trade and it went on by the success of western world at sports,music,broadcasting,aviation and many things.I'd give you an example.After Japan's defeat at ww2,U.S wanted them to change the whole japanese writing system (Kanji) cos that was a big barrier for them to communicate and translate the papers, forced them to do it.But that was senseless.It was impossible to change the thousand years of a tradition so they quit the idea.
Well I don't want a common language in whole world.I want to hear the funny accents of non-english speakers like me,russians,balkans or any other non-english speakers.And also I like scottish and irish accents they sound cool to me as a difference.I'm happy when I hardly understand a latin person but in the end we find a way to deal.One common language means one monotype standardized humans to me.

[Whirlwind]

...also I like scottish and irish accents they sound cool to me as a difference....

Even with a universal language, you will still have accents. Scottish and Irish speak American...but it sure doesn't sound like my New York American.

I see your points for language being a part of a muti-cultural world and thus it should be to each his own. However, I am looking at a much bigger, idealized picture. I am thinking, as I said earlier, of a future utopian society like STAR TREK. In that future we are all one. Nice thought. Obviously it doesn't work for present day, but one day....

Hell, you may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one. I hope one day you'll join me, and the world will speak as one.

[Isaac(Black Eagle Rising)]

keep on looking at much bigger and idealized picture that I can not see in new york city while listening to this.Sorry disagree with your thoughts which are too optimistic to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkwU_2gFFVo

[Whirlwind]

Black Eagle, you actually linked me to my absolute favorite New Model Army. Well done. You scare me with your psychic abilities.

Man, is that their greatest tune. Full 10s lyrically and musically.

[Rusco]

Uniting the world can not be made by language. [...]

Whoa Black Eagle, that's so true. Everything you said. May I ask are you a teacher or specialized in another way in pedagogy or something? 

I also agree with all the characters with speaking languages and flaws within them. They make it interesting. It's us with all differences and shades of cultures we can hear really... It was a short while ago I read about an investigation of some nearly extinct far eastern languages and how their speakers nowadays have not a single word for owning or buying... That's unbelievable, what you could hear there are the earlier generations with tens of different words for things like sharing, giving, loaning... That's unbelievable.

[Rusco]

Black Eagle, you actually linked me to my absolute favorite New Model Army. Well done. You scare me with your psychic abilities.

Not a surprise it was also a fave of a guy called Space years ago. 

(HAHA!)

[Whirlwind]

it was also a fave of a guy called Space years ago. 

Man, everytime you guys bring up something about this guy called Space, it makes me realize he was some fellow. I wish I were around when he was here. He sounds like a bright, intelligent, fun-loving guy.

"Western Dream" was his favorite NMA tune? Man, that guy Space knows his music. I wonder if he ever added guitar to "Inheritance" to make it a better song.